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Title: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 02, 2022, 03:41:14 PM
Okay fellas… here goes:

post your (permitted) images of big boobed gals and I’ll try to estimate their bra size.

Some basic rules:

- if possible, give the model’s height and/or weight

- give the bra size that the model claims she is (UK or US size is fine)

- try to post an image of the model wearing a bra (boobs in the cups)

Go!


PS Margaret may, or may not be accurate in bra size estimations. YMMV.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on September 02, 2022, 04:11:56 PM
Great idea, Margaret!  Just wanted to give my support to this new thread.  I think most of us tend not to know the height and weight of the models we post, though.

You should upload a pic for an avatar!  Doesn’t have to be a pic of you.  Maybe a pic of a bra and a tape measure?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on September 02, 2022, 04:47:13 PM
This thread is gonna be better than Beat Bobby Flay on the Food Network!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 02, 2022, 11:27:30 PM
This thread is great. Margaret is such a nice person, her patience, good explanations and knowledge will be a great treat.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Fortuitous Jinx on September 03, 2022, 12:01:37 AM
Height is apparently 4'11" in height, claims 28J.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eZORIX_y97U/UewEde7CrfI/AAAAAAAAYJg/PYUv7AU6YH8/s400/r65e67.jpg)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on September 03, 2022, 12:13:28 AM
Okay!  Our first challenge has begun!

Let’s see what Margaret can come up with!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 03, 2022, 04:35:21 AM
Height is apparently 4'11" in height, claims 28J.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eZORIX_y97U/UewEde7CrfI/AAAAAAAAYJg/PYUv7AU6YH8/s400/r65e67.jpg)

Okay… let’s see…

She’s possibly taller than 4’11” (but photos can be deceptive, so maybe that is her correct height).

The top/bralet she’s wearing doesn’t give much away in terms of band/cups fit - as it’s not a “proper” bra, as such - although it does seem to have underwires.

28J is one of those “modern” bra sizes (ie. relatively new since about 2007/2008 - before that, sizes like 28J didn’t really exist). And I’ve seen women who can fit into a 28J, but can also fit into a 28HH, a 30HH or a 30J. Also, a 28J US is the same as a 28GG UK (give or take). Whereas a 28J UK is more like a 28M in the US, so it all depends if her bra size is UK or US. But a UK 28J would have much more projection, which she doesn’t have - her boobs look like they’re being pushed up and out. I’d like to see a back band, if possible.

However, even with this photo, I reckon she’s possibly more like a 28FF or 30FF (assuming she’s as small as she is).

I’m going to go with 30FF, depending on the bra and style.


PS all of my estimations will be UK bra sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 03, 2022, 05:00:52 AM
I was just thinking - getting an accurate height measurement may be tricky on some models, or just for random pics one finds. We're are going to need a datum to use in our estimates.   

So, I wonder if arm span to height may give us a reasonable estimate.  There are some difficulties with this, not knowing how wide the chest is.  But I am just thinking out-loud here.

PS, not sure this will work unless we know how long the arms are though.  I'll have a look through some of the images I have to try and find one suitable - some of the XX-Cel ones where the model does a front back and side pose would be ideal I guess.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 03, 2022, 06:31:28 AM
I was just thinking - getting an accurate height measurement may be tricky on some models, or just for random pics one finds. We're are going to need a datum to use in our estimates.   

So, I wonder if arm span to height may give us a reasonable estimate.  There are some difficulties with this, not knowing how wide the chest is.  But I am just thinking out-loud here.

PS, not sure this will work unless we know how long the arms are though.  I'll have a look through some of the images I have to try and find one suitable - some of the XX-Cel ones where the model does a front back and side pose would be ideal I guess.

Yeah. There’s a couple of tricks to this. One is door height (which is usually pretty standard), and another way is if you know the height of someone else in the photo, or landmarks etc. but it’s not an exact science.

Most women are average height (about 5’5” to 5’8” - but usually around 5’5”).

I can often also tell roughly what bra size a woman is by boob-to-torso ratio - and, by the lingerie they are wearing (as often the bras only come in certain sizes).

A lot goes in to being a bra whisperer!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on September 03, 2022, 07:46:26 AM
Paige British
Boobpedia statistics…
5’2”
34G (UK or US?)
2300cc implants

More pictures are here at her thread, including a profile pic of the attached bra shot: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001662.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001662.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 03, 2022, 08:08:41 AM
Paige British
Boobpedia statistics…
5’2”
34G (UK or US?)
2300cc implants

More pictures are here at her thread, including a profile pic of the attached bra shot: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001662.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001662.0)

Because we’re in the realm of implants with this lady, I reckon you’re possibly looking at 30JJ - possibly 30K/KK.

There’s not much chance at all that she’s wearing 34G - a 34 back would be broader and the boobs slightly smaller. She looks totally tiny, which makes me think she’s a 28 back - in which case, she’d need a 30 band (28 would be too small, I reckon) which would give her an inch or two more in the cups, and then a K or KK cup would hold those two soccer balls in.

She tends to wear poorly-fitting (small) bras, which is all about emphasising the boobs and projection. I suspect this woman is really petite in real life (which will make the boobs seem even bigger).

I’m loving this challenge guys. Keep them coming! 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Breasts on September 03, 2022, 06:01:06 PM
I really want to add the stunning Missy Marie Yungfreckz to this challenge but I can't find a good fuller length shot that isn't her paid content because I won't share that.
I'll keep looking lol.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 04, 2022, 02:12:47 AM
Yeah. There’s a couple of tricks to this. One is door height (which is usually pretty standard), and another way is if you know the height of someone else in the photo, or landmarks etc. but it’s not an exact science.
That's a really good point.

So looking at some of the pics I have on my local making, this one, I think fits the criteria.

That said - I'm guessing 28G. But to be honest, this estimate is all based on my handling of Gs before - no mathematics involved.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 05, 2022, 02:44:51 AM
I don't think this is OF - forgive me if it is.
My guess is 30J - and what a well fitting brassiere it is.
Margaret it is over to you...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 06, 2022, 02:26:04 AM
Today I'm going with - 34G
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: phonehome1 on September 06, 2022, 06:43:53 AM
Today I'm going with - 34G

Using the US system/standard

Based on background I am going to guess  5'2" to 5'4" and weight of 120 to 135

She shows some tummy so she is not "skinny" by any stretch.  I would guess that a 34" band would be minimum. It is not a "small" torso.  Going by US standard G cup looks generous.  I would say DD to DDD  IE E to F 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 06, 2022, 12:31:20 PM
Yeah. There’s a couple of tricks to this. One is door height (which is usually pretty standard), and another way is if you know the height of someone else in the photo, or landmarks etc. but it’s not an exact science.
That's a really good point.

So looking at some of the pics I have on my local making, this one, I think fits the criteria.

That said - I'm guessing 28G. But to be honest, this estimate is all based on my handling of Gs before - no mathematics involved.

My apologies for the tardy responses gentlemen - I am having a tortuous time getting logged in to the forum with the “authentication” issue. It lets me log in once every few days, then locks me out. I have no idea how to resolve this. Can anyone help? There’s no admin to email that I know of.

So, this lady first… What a terrific figure she has (even though I’m not a fan of tattoos). I’m very envious of her shape.

Anyway, she’s not tall, but very slim across the back, and pretty full in the breasts. I’m not convinced she would be a 28G - which sounds like it’s a big size, but you have to bear in mind that a 28” back accounts for most of the back band and one or two inches of the cup material, so you’d be talking cup volume equivalent to about an E cup - maybe an F cup. To be Frank, 28G boobs are surprisingly not that big.

So, based on how low her boobs are hanging, and her frame size, I’m guessing she has much bigger boob volume than 28G. Possibly as high as 28H or 28HH. It would depend on the bra/manufacturer.

I’m going to guess 28H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 06, 2022, 12:35:11 PM
I don't think this is OF - forgive me if it is.
My guess is 30J - and what a well fitting brassiere it is.
Margaret it is over to you...

Okay, lady number two…

Despite how it looks, that’s not an especially well-fitting bra….

Do you notice how the centre gore in between the cups isn’t sitting flush with her sternum? Normally, that indicates (to me, and other people who know bras) that she needs to go up a cup size. Although, her boobs are encased decently in the cups, which is a good sign.

However, from what I can tell, her back band is riding up a little - just as it curves under her armpit. That (along with the centre gore not sitting flush) tells me she’s needing to go up a band size - at least.

Now, in terms of bra size - I’ve looked around and found other more recent photos of this particularly beautiful lady, and I suspect she is slightly taller than average - probably about 5’7”. And, she has pretty big volume in her breast tissue now - so 30J isn’t a million miles away from what she might be, but given that she has a slightly broader back, I’m thinking possibly she needs a 30JJ or a 32J.

I’m going to say 32J, but she could easily also be a 32H/HH too.

I’d love to know what bra size she’s wearing in this photo!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 06, 2022, 12:43:50 PM
Today I'm going with - 34G

That’s a decent guess Hiram - and she’s wearing a pretty decent-fitting bra - although, the back band is possibly riding up a little, and I can see her back flesh bunching up a bit - which isn’t the end of the world, but the bra is possibly crushing her a little. All signs of needing to go up a band size (or perhaps just up a cup size).

I’m going to guess she would definitely be able to wear a 34G without too many issues - but she would probably be much more comfortable in a 34H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 06, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
Today I'm going with - 34G

Using the US system/standard

Based on background I am going to guess  5'2" to 5'4" and weight of 120 to 135

She shows some tummy so she is not "skinny" by any stretch.  I would guess that a 34" band would be minimum. It is not a "small" torso.  Going by US standard G cup looks generous.  I would say DD to DDD  IE E to F

Not sure what chart/conversion you’re using…

A UK 34G would be more like a US 34I.

A US 34G would be a UK 34F.

Based on the photo, I’d say she’s a UK 34H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: ExtremistComics on September 06, 2022, 04:48:41 PM
Today I'm going with - 34G
Who is this?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 07, 2022, 03:16:11 AM
I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 07, 2022, 03:26:34 AM
That’s a decent guess Hiram
Never having to wear a bra myself it surprises me that I can get that close.  Maybe a hidden talent I didn't know I had.  But we'll see how I go later in this thread. It could be beginners luck.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 07, 2022, 03:42:07 AM
I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F

I don’t think she’s a 38 back. Much too slim for that. More like a 32 or 34 back. With that in mind, I’m thinking maybe a 32G or a 34F/FF.

(Bear in mind all my size estimations are UK sizes).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on September 07, 2022, 02:09:34 PM
Not the best bra shot in the world, I know. 

You can find more shots of her in her thread, here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999104.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999104.0)

Boobpedia stats for Milada Moore…
32I (UK 32HH)
Weight: 162 lbs
Height: 5’7”
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 07, 2022, 03:40:18 PM
Not the best bra shot in the world, I know. 

You can find more shots of her in her thread, here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999104.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999104.0)

Boobpedia stats for Milada Moore…
32I (UK 32HH)
Weight: 162 lbs
Height: 5’7”

For some reason I thought I had already done a bra fit/size assessment on this lady - but perhaps not.

The first thing I’d say is that I’m not convinced she’s 5’7”. Although, she does have long legs - and long thigh bones (which I have, but I’m only 5’5”).

She also has broad shoulders, and her boobs hang low on her torso - but they are pretty full with projection. So, I’m fairly sure she’s not 32HH - but she’s possibly not broad enough to be a 34 back, so I’m going to say she is much bigger in the cup dept - probably a 32KK.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 08, 2022, 02:22:37 AM
Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 08, 2022, 05:00:32 AM
Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?

Are there any other photos of her out there? Perhaps wearing a bra?

28 back seems a little bit small for someone Witt such big boobs - it would crush her. She’s almost definitely beyond K cup. You’d be into L or M, I think. Possibly something like a 30KK/L. Difficult to say for sure though - but my goodness, her boobs are absolutely huge, pendulous and low set.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 08, 2022, 06:22:53 AM
Margaret, what is your estimation for Yungfreckz aka Missy?  ??? :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 08, 2022, 06:57:53 AM
Margaret, what is your estimation for Yungfreckz aka Missy?  ??? :)

I’ve had a look around, and this lovely woman is definitely something of a challenge, as there’s so few photos of her full body - unless you can point me in the right direction.

We’re in the realm of guesswork really - probably something in the range of a 34-38 back, depending on her cup size - which is going to be big. But a sizeable portion of her bra will be back band too.

I could really only imagine she would be around a 34KK or 36J?

Update: having looked around more, I’m possibly way off here. A lot of this is bodymass/weight. So we could be in the realms of 40 back, and L+ cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: phonehome1 on September 08, 2022, 07:06:54 AM
I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F

I don’t think she’s a 38 back. Much too slim for that. More like a 32 or 34 back. With that in mind, I’m thinking maybe a 32G or a 34F/FF.

(Bear in mind all my size estimations are UK sizes).

She is not "slim" not even close to what used to pass for slim, not in the US anyway. 

She has some tummy showing, would have  in the right jeans have more than a little "muffin top"

She looks like what we would have called a "big boned girl"  She is much to big torso wise to get into a 32 band size even 34 without REALLY stretching it out.  "Digging in" type stretching.

Based on the the bed in front of her and the mirror behind her I am guessing 5'7" give or take an inch and between 125 and maybe 140 LBS.   

Based on 50 years in the US of "Observation" and comparison,  buying bras for women, raking them bra shopping at the likes of Victoria Secret checking the tags after/while  taking them off based on traditional standards or "charts"  that were used by the likes of Playtex for years and years and not any "new" methods where seemingly any woman with anything more than just nipples is a D cup or bigger and tiny band sizes rule, if I had to guess  I would say she is a "vintage/classic" pick your term 38DD
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on September 08, 2022, 03:52:16 PM
Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?

Are there any other photos of her out there? Perhaps wearing a bra?

28 back seems a little bit small for someone Witt such big boobs - it would crush her. She’s almost definitely beyond K cup. You’d be into L or M, I think. Possibly something like a 30KK/L. Difficult to say for sure though - but my goodness, her boobs are absolutely huge, pendulous and low set.

More pix of Cheryl at her thread here:  https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0)

Does that help?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 09, 2022, 02:26:29 AM
Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?

Are there any other photos of her out there? Perhaps wearing a bra?

28 back seems a little bit small for someone Witt such big boobs - it would crush her. She’s almost definitely beyond K cup. You’d be into L or M, I think. Possibly something like a 30KK/L. Difficult to say for sure though - but my goodness, her boobs are absolutely huge, pendulous and low set.

More pix of Cheryl at her thread here:  https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0)

Does that help?

She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much (and the poses are often about over-emphasis) that it’s difficult to tell. That first photo gave me the impression she would be a 30 back, but she could be a 32 or 34 - and definitely on the bigger cup size side, maybe JJ or K.

Any time I’ve seen boobs that big on a smallish frame, you’re up in those cup sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 09, 2022, 05:03:50 AM
I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F

I don’t think she’s a 38 back. Much too slim for that. More like a 32 or 34 back. With that in mind, I’m thinking maybe a 32G or a 34F/FF.

(Bear in mind all my size estimations are UK sizes).

She is not "slim" not even close to what used to pass for slim, not in the US anyway. 

She has some tummy showing, would have  in the right jeans have more than a little "muffin top"

She looks like what we would have called a "big boned girl"  She is much to big torso wise to get into a 32 band size even 34 without REALLY stretching it out.  "Digging in" type stretching.

Based on the the bed in front of her and the mirror behind her I am guessing 5'7" give or take an inch and between 125 and maybe 140 LBS.   

Based on 50 years in the US of "Observation" and comparison,  buying bras for women, raking them bra shopping at the likes of Victoria Secret checking the tags after/while  taking them off based on traditional standards or "charts"  that were used by the likes of Playtex for years and years and not any "new" methods where seemingly any woman with anything more than just nipples is a D cup or bigger and tiny band sizes rule, if I had to guess  I would say she is a "vintage/classic" pick your term 38DD

We’ve been here before phonehome1...

Firstly, I didn’t mention anything to do with her waist or weight. You’re confusing “skinny” for “slim”. When I referred to “slim”, I wasn’t referring to her body mass, I was referring to her back size/shape. Her “muffin top” has nothing to do with her bra size. I’m a 30” back (actually more like 29”) - but I have 36” hips - which bears no relation to my band size or cup size. I’m by no means “big boned”, but I have a pretty tiny back measurement - yet, I have pretty big boobs (I’m a 32FF). My shape is not unlike this woman’s. It’s all about proportion, breast tissue shape and projection (or lack thereof).

I’ve attached an image of the various guesses we’ve all made here, just for comparison. These are all real-life examples, and the bras being worn are the sizes (UK) as stated. Which one do you think is closest? I’d say the 38FF is pretty close - although, I don’t think the woman we’re assessing is a 38 back, which is why I went for 34.

38DD (either US or UK) in the past was never actually “38DD”. It was never an actual size or a unit of measurement. It was a label, based on a manufacturing process that wasn’t based on any real metric or averages. The term “DD” or “double D” eventually became synonymous with “big boobs” as a result. The world has moved on significantly in the past 10-20 years in terms of bra sizing, fitting and measuring. It’s not an exact science - it involves multiple factors, including back size, boobs/cup size, boob shape, posture, height/weight - and, crucially, the ever-changing variances in the individual designs and manufacturing of hundreds of different brands. But, we’re quite close to a general standard that combines band size + cup size + fit + look + style + comfort + support + shape = the individual woman’s actual size (which can vary from company to company - I can wear a 32FF in Curvy Kate, Freya and Fantasie bras, but I can also fit in to some 30E bras).

I admire your claim of 50 years of experience with bras and boobs and labels and such. I have one more year on you - and, I’m actually a woman who actually has a pair of boobs - and, crucially, I’ve worked as a bra fitter. I don’t always get it right, as it’s often down to a combination of guesswork, intuition, experience, wisdom - and, simply getting women to try bras on and find one that works for them.

For this woman, I estimated 32G or a 34F/FF. She has a fair bit of projection, so perhaps I slightly under-estimated her cup size - but it’s close. She’s possibly a 34G. I’d need to see more photos.

Oh, and I found her social profile - she says she’s wearing a 32G.

PS I am available for private consultations! Just DM me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 09, 2022, 05:41:21 AM
She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much
I've just been having a look round and you're right, her pictures do vary a lot.  I don't think she is as big as the picture I posted seemed to indicate.  but still a very big woman.

In my latest challenge, I thought this picture with a hand comparison would be interesting.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 09, 2022, 05:58:58 AM
She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much
I've just been having a look round and you're right, her pictures do vary a lot.  I don't think she is as big as the picture I posted seemed to indicate.  but still a very big woman.

In my latest challenge, I thought this picture with a hand comparison would be interesting.

Another difficult one - depends on whose hand it is! If it’s an average-sized hand, you’re probably up at J cup, but equally, depending on band size, it could be G/GG H/HH. Being able to estimate back/band size is crucial to the whole package.

I’d suspect this lady is a big cup size, but an actual bra size estimate would be difficult purely based on this photo. It could be anything, really. Are there any other photos?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 09, 2022, 06:32:10 AM
depends on whose hand it is!
I wish it was mine ha ha.

I can't remember where I got that from , I have a feeling it is Mady Gio.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 09, 2022, 06:45:38 AM
depends on whose hand it is!
I wish it was mine ha ha.

I can't remember where I got that from , I have a feeling it is Mady Gio.

Ah. She’s the absolutely stunning woman we assessed earlier in the thread 😍🥰😘

I should say, I really love doing this - I hope it’s useful, informative - and maybe even fun for the BEA users. Perhaps it may even prove helpful to some people too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 10, 2022, 03:10:33 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 04:21:23 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 07:42:41 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 10, 2022, 07:50:35 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat.  ??? :P :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 08:02:48 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat.  ??? :P :(

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 10, 2022, 08:30:22 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat.  ??? :P :(

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).

Thanks for clarifying much of our ignorance. Your patience with us is amazing. This old pervert ....er ..... breasts connoisseur appreciates your knowledge and grace.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 09:02:14 AM
I hope it’s useful, informative
It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat.  ??? :P :(

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).

Thanks for clarifying much of our ignorance. Your patience with us is amazing. This old pervert ....er ..... breasts connoisseur appreciates your knowledge and grace.  :)

You’re more than welcome. I really love doing this. It’s just a bizarre coincidence that I’ve ended up doing it on here and not on some other (female-centric) forum.

Men (especially boob fetishists!) need educated about bras too!
 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on September 10, 2022, 09:31:53 AM
So let's make it a school subject  8).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 10, 2022, 09:40:04 AM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 09:53:15 AM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D

Solvegas - see me after class.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 10, 2022, 09:57:16 AM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D

Solvegas - see me after class.

I went to Catholic school when I was a kid .....will I get a whipping? :o ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 10, 2022, 10:05:16 AM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D

Solvegas - see me after class.

I went to Catholic school when I was a kid .....will I get a whipping? :o ::) ;) ;D

You’ll be made to recite your bra size
 tables.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on September 10, 2022, 03:04:15 PM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D

I would enjoy the practical parts and the homework too  ;)
I am so excited of the exams  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 10, 2022, 08:12:27 PM
So let's make it a school subject  8).

Is it hands on instruction?  ;) ;D

Solvegas - see me after class.

I went to Catholic school when I was a kid .....will I get a whipping? :o ::) ;) ;D

You’ll be made to recite your bra size
 tables.

In Catholic school I had to recite the multiplication and division tables in front of the class and if I screwed up, the teacher would hit the palms of my hands with a wooden ruler and tell me to start over. Will you do the same?  :o :P ::)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on September 11, 2022, 01:25:40 AM
This will be hard times for you sol 😂
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 11, 2022, 02:25:07 PM
Okey dokey then...


An ill fitting bra - some hanging up behind.   Going on my gut feeling  - I'd say 28K.  I think this lady would be a challenge Margaret if you did a real fitting as I think her boobs will hang fairly low.



Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 11, 2022, 05:24:47 PM
Okey dokey then...


An ill fitting bra - some hanging up behind.   Going on my gut feeling  - I'd say 28K.  I think this lady would be a challenge Margaret if you did a real fitting as I think her boobs will hang fairly low.

Interesting… she’s slim, but very wide-set - and, that bra isn’t helping give a good impression - fairly big(ish) boobs can often look even bigger in a poorly-fitting bra. However, 28k wouldn’t be unusual - but she might also be a HH or J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 11, 2022, 07:37:06 PM
This is Allegra Cole and she is 5'6" tall and 155 pounds sans boobs. What bra size do you think she is Margaret?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 12, 2022, 12:08:52 PM
The next customer in Margaret's fitting room is:
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 12, 2022, 04:48:41 PM
This is Allegra Cole and she is 5'6" tall and 155 pounds sans boobs. What bra size do you think she is Margaret?
Again, with implants this big, we’re in the realm of the unknown, but whatever size she is, it’s bound to be in the L/M category. Or - she would have to get custom bras made. I can’t imagine there’s an off-the-shelf (pardon the pun) bra that she could go out and purchase.

So, perhaps something like 32 or 34L?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 12, 2022, 04:53:26 PM
The next customer in Margaret's fitting room is:

I’m fairly sure this is a Curvy Kate Victory in Latte bra, which comes up to a K cup (and is a really AMAZING, comfortable bra). But, without seeing a tad more of the woman modelling it, it’s going to be difficult to make a proper assessment. It could be something along the lines of 32HH or J (the cups are way too small).

Do you have any other photos?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 13, 2022, 12:50:46 PM
Do you have any other photos?
I do indeed.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 14, 2022, 07:56:05 AM
Do you have any other photos?
I do indeed.

Yes. There’s definitely a 32 or 34 back going on here (most likely 34), and up in the J category.

Who is this in the photos?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 14, 2022, 12:02:32 PM
Who is this in the photos?
I don't know unfortunately - it was a picture I found on Reddit.

This customer has just walked in to Margaret's fitting room.  My initial thoughts are 40DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 14, 2022, 05:33:53 PM
Who is this in the photos?
I don't know unfortunately - it was a picture I found on Reddit.

This customer has just walked in to Margaret's fitting room.  My initial thoughts are 40DD.

40DD seems a tempting size to go for, as she seems broad in the back - but the boobs are probably too big for her to be a DD. I reckon she might be closer to a 38E or 38FF. She certainly needs to take a closer look at the band and cup size to find a more comfortable fit that encases her boobs in the cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: ExtremistComics on September 15, 2022, 12:01:34 AM
Who is this in the photos?
I don't know unfortunately - it was a picture I found on Reddit.

This customer has just walked in to Margaret's fitting room.  My initial thoughts are 40DD.
Oh wow, who's this? She's a consummate "real-world MILF" type, she's exquisite.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 15, 2022, 04:31:07 AM
Todays customer - I was thinking, maybe smaller could be trickier.  My guess is 28A, but I'd be interested in what Margaret thinks?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 15, 2022, 06:09:50 AM
Todays customer - I was thinking, maybe smaller could be trickier.  My guess is 28A, but I'd be interested in what Margaret thinks?

There’s a number of sizes this lady could be - 30C or 32C wouldn’t be unusual, but it’s definitely on the lower end of cup size, possibly slightly bigger on the band size than 28 though.

Looks like a reasonably good fit in the back band too. Aubade make really lovely lingerie - very expensive though!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 17, 2022, 03:04:07 AM
Aubade make really lovely lingerie - very expensive though!
It does look like quality from the pics.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 17, 2022, 03:07:53 AM
I thought this lady's size could a tricky estimate - not sure how tall she is, or the thickness of her back.


I like what she is wearing though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 18, 2022, 02:53:26 AM
Posting this one as I do have confirmation of the size she is wearing, literally a picture of the tag. 


Spoiler - its big...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 18, 2022, 03:51:21 AM
I thought this lady's size could a tricky estimate - not sure how tall she is, or the thickness of her back.


I like what she is wearing though.

More pics would help. Whatever size she is, it’s going to be on the small-ish cup size. Probably around a 28-32 back. I’m guessing 32C maybe.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 18, 2022, 04:00:01 AM
Posting this one as I do have confirmation of the size she is wearing, literally a picture of the tag. 


Spoiler - its big...

Difficult to say without knowing her height etc, but she doesn’t look tall. The cups are going to be up in the big category, but it all depends on back size. Possibly in the KK+ region. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 30LL or a 32LL. 

One thing I will say is that bra looks a decent fit (maybe needing to go up a cup size) which tells me it’s probably in the K/KK category. Let’s got for 30LL. 

Who is she?

(Edit: I revised my thinking on this one to 30LL)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 18, 2022, 05:45:03 AM
Posting this one as I do have confirmation of the size she is wearing, literally a picture of the tag. 


Spoiler - its big...

Difficult to say without knowing her height etc, but she doesn’t look tall. The cups are going to be up in the big category, but it all depends on back size. Possibly in the KK+ region. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 30LL or a 32LL. 

One thing I will say is that bra looks a decent fit (maybe needing to go up a cup size) which tells me it’s probably in the K/KK category. Let’s got for 30LL. 

Who is she?

(Edit: I revised my thinking on this one to 30LL)

Her name is Tamara Dido. She has a thread here in the General Discussion section of this forum. :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 18, 2022, 06:09:50 AM
Posting this one as I do have confirmation of the size she is wearing, literally a picture of the tag. 


Spoiler - its big...

Difficult to say without knowing her height etc, but she doesn’t look tall. The cups are going to be up in the big category, but it all depends on back size. Possibly in the KK+ region. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 30LL or a 32LL. 

One thing I will say is that bra looks a decent fit (maybe needing to go up a cup size) which tells me it’s probably in the K/KK category. Let’s got for 30LL. 

Who is she?

(Edit: I revised my thinking on this one to 30LL)

Her name is Tamara Dido. She has a thread here in the General Discussion section of this forum. :)

Ah. Well. M cup certainly doesn’t seem impossible (beyond L/M, you’re into custom bras). She seems very short in height - which will make the boobs much bigger on her frame.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 20, 2022, 12:05:44 PM
For those playing along at home.  Here's the reveal.  80M - not sure what that is in real money?

Like you said though Margaret - it does look a fairly good fit, especially for a bra that large.

Four rows of fasteners  - are there normally that many?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 20, 2022, 04:19:34 PM
For those playing along at home.  Here's the reveal.  80M - not sure what that is in real money?

Like you said though Margaret - it does look a fairly good fit, especially for a bra that large.

Four rows of fasteners  - are there normally that many?

An 80M is a European size (Gorsenia is a Polish brand), which equates to about 36J in UK sizes (a 36M in US size is the same as a 36J UK).

I had said she was 30LL or 32LL (based on her having a slim back). I think she’s probably more like a 32JJ (sister sizing means if you go up a band size, you go down a cup size and vice-versa). She’s probably wearing a 36J because it fits her in the cups, but the band is probably really loose on her back (or she’s modified it).

Four rows of hooks and eyes aren’t uncommon - although most ‘big’ bras would be two or three rows. Most of my bras (32FF) are three rows. It’s a common misconception that the rows of hooks and eyes are for reinforcement - they’re not; they’re there to prolong the life of the bra. Bra material stretches over time through wear and tear, and laundering, so when you purchase a new bra, you should start on the widest setting of the hooks/eyes, and over time, you work your way in to the tighter setting to prolong the bra’s life. Of course, most women don’t know this, and instead wear the bra on a really tight or really loose setting for comfort - when, in fact, the back band is supposed to feel tight on (if it’s the correct size, that is), as the back band does 80% of the work in supporting your boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on September 20, 2022, 04:36:12 PM
You are unerringly accurate.

The bra was a gift from a fan and is the wrong size. The model herself says she is a UK 36L US 36P which was roughly where you were heading until the bras actual size confused things.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 20, 2022, 05:07:02 PM
You are unerringly accurate.

The bra was a gift from a fan and is the wrong size. The model herself says she is a UK 36L US 36P which was roughly where you were heading until the bras actual size confused things.

What can I say.  It’s a sixth sense. “I see boob people.”

Seriously though, with a lifetime of two big boobs hanging from your torso, wearing the wrong size for years, falling in love with proper fitting bras for big boobs, and becoming obsessed with making sure women are wearing the appropriate size - you get a sense for it. I can often just glance at someone and figure out what size they should be. It’s much easier in person - and, oddly, easier when they’re wearing a bra (or sometimes clothed). Weirdly, it’s slightly more difficult to assess a pair of naked boobs (and I’ve seen hundreds of pairs of boobs naked).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 21, 2022, 02:34:02 AM
you should start on the widest setting of the hooks/eyes, and over time, you work your way in to the tighter setting to prolong the bra’s life. Of course, most women don’t know this, and instead wear the bra on a really tight or really loose setting for comfort - when, in fact, the back band is supposed to feel tight on (if it’s the correct size, that is), as the back band does 80% of the work in supporting your boobs.
I've seen the usage of small extenders (that isn't the right term) for the back band that women get, so when the band gets tight tight they don't have to get a new bra, they just add a small section.

I didn't know that about the back band - you'd think it was the straps doing all the support.  Although thinking about it I can see it.

Today's challenge Margaret is:


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 21, 2022, 02:45:37 AM
you should start on the widest setting of the hooks/eyes, and over time, you work your way in to the tighter setting to prolong the bra’s life. Of course, most women don’t know this, and instead wear the bra on a really tight or really loose setting for comfort - when, in fact, the back band is supposed to feel tight on (if it’s the correct size, that is), as the back band does 80% of the work in supporting your boobs.
I've seen the usage of small extenders (that isn't the right term) for the back band that women get, so when the band gets tight tight they don't have to get a new bra, they just add a small section.

I didn't know that about the back band - you'd think it was the straps doing all the support.  Although thinking about it I can see it.

Today's challenge Margaret is:

Yeah - extenders can be useful, but again, they’re mostly for women who are an odd back size (as in odd number) - as bands are always even numbered (which is another good use of the hooks and eyes; to add or subtract an extra inch to the band size). An extender does the same job.

So, this lovely lady… She looks very much in the 32/34FF range. Similar build/frame to me, with similar sized boobs. Another photo would be helpful - but she’s probably needing to go up a cup size or a band size with that bra, as her boobs aren’t fully encased in the cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 22, 2022, 05:36:22 AM
I've been thinking how to make this challenge a little bit more difficult - I haven't come up with a concrete idea yet, but I have something in mind.

That said - here's today's lovely:
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 22, 2022, 06:24:45 AM
I've been thinking how to make this challenge a little bit more difficult - I haven't come up with a concrete idea yet, but I have something in mind.

That said - here's today's lovely:

This lady looks really slim in the back, so we’re probably down in the 26/28 back size. Based on the cups and shape, I’d reckon we’re looking at a 26E/FF or a 28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 23, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
This lady looks really slim in the back, so we’re probably down in the 26/28 back size.
Yeah that's what I thought on back band - I must admit I'd have been totally wrong on the cup size though.  I thought it was a nice picture.
How about this one - side view and with clothes on. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 23, 2022, 03:20:48 PM
This lady looks really slim in the back, so we’re probably down in the 26/28 back size.
Yeah that's what I thought on back band - I must admit I'd have been totally wrong on the cup size though.  I thought it was a nice picture.
How about this one - side view and with clothes on.

Based on the projection - we’re maybe looking at something like 32HH or 34H, but more pics might help me make a better guess.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 24, 2022, 02:51:08 AM
Same lady, this time no clothes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 24, 2022, 09:29:11 AM
Same lady, this time no clothes.

Quite a difference. We’re maybe looking at a 34JJ or 34K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 25, 2022, 06:25:55 AM
One more to assist the estimation.

I have a 38JJ bra in the cupboard (don't ask) and JJ seems like to good estimate.  I know 38JJ and 34JJ aren't the same cup size but its all I have to go on.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 25, 2022, 07:19:25 AM
One more to assist the estimation.

I have a 38JJ bra in the cupboard (don't ask) and JJ seems like to good estimate.  I know 38JJ and 34JJ aren't the same cup size but its all I have to go on.

She has a very similar boob shape and bodyframe/build to a friend of mine, who is a 32K, so I’m guessing it’s in or around that range (32K, 34JJ).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 26, 2022, 01:17:52 PM
Try this one of Anastasia Lux - there are some measurements of her on some website, but I wonder whet you think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 27, 2022, 05:30:08 AM
Try this one of Anastasia Lux - there are some measurements of her on some website, but I wonder whet you think?

Well, she has a fairly broad back and a good element of projection, with a slight low hang (west-east). It’s hard to tell how tall she is (the impression the photo gives is that she’s about 5’7”).

I’m going to go for somewhere around 32HH or 34G. Most likely 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 30, 2022, 04:58:38 AM
Thanks for the estimates on my latest posts - I have a new candidate.  I think she is natural, but to honest I'm not sure with this lady.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 30, 2022, 05:25:32 AM
Thanks for the estimates on my latest posts - I have a new candidate.  I think she is natural, but to honest I'm not sure with this lady.

She looks very petite, with a super-slim back - so this one is relatively easy (I think). Possibly a 28H or 28HH - although, she could be even smaller build - so it wouldn’t be unusual for her to be something like a 26HH.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 02, 2022, 04:00:14 AM
Here we have a fan fav Linsey Dawn McKenzie - and some perspective.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 02, 2022, 04:26:15 AM
Here we have a fan fav Linsey Dawn McKenzie - and some perspective.

This is an interesting one, because I know of this woman. I can remember a lot about her in the UK newspapers in the mid-90s. They promoted her as 36HH at the time - which was probably the size she was given using the +4 technique at Marks and Spencer. A 36HH sounds big, and I suppose it is in relative terms, but she’s not a 36HH (and, as I understand it, she had a reduction and then went back and got implants), so things will be different now.

In this photo, she’s about 5’2”, based on the tape measurement and fairly broad shouldered - but still slim (I am super-jealous of jus how slim!). So, I’m thinking she’s in the 30-32 back region, with a J-K cup. I’m thinking 32J/JJ - she has very similar projection and bodyshape to someone I know, and she’s a slightly bigger 32K, so I reckon 32JJ is probably about right (depending on the bra).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 02, 2022, 06:02:54 AM
Here we have a fan fav Linsey Dawn McKenzie - and some perspective.

This is an interesting one, because I know of this woman. I can remember a lot about her in the UK newspapers in the mid-90s. They promoted her as 36HH at the time - which was probably the size she was given using the +4 technique at Marks and Spencer. A 36HH sounds big, and I suppose it is in relative terms, but she’s not a 36HH (and, as I understand it, she had a reduction and then went back and got implants), so things will be different now.

In this photo, she’s about 5’2”, based on the tape measurement and fairly broad shouldered - but still slim (I am super-jealous of jus how slim!). So, I’m thinking she’s in the 30-32 back region, with a J-K cup. I’m thinking 32J/JJ - she has very similar projection and bodyshape to someone I know, and she’s a slightly bigger 32K, so I reckon 32JJ is probably about right (depending on the bra).

She's 5'3" tall, so that was a good approximation just by looking at that leg measurement.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 02, 2022, 07:59:51 AM
Here we have a fan fav Linsey Dawn McKenzie - and some perspective.

This is an interesting one, because I know of this woman. I can remember a lot about her in the UK newspapers in the mid-90s. They promoted her as 36HH at the time - which was probably the size she was given using the +4 technique at Marks and Spencer. A 36HH sounds big, and I suppose it is in relative terms, but she’s not a 36HH (and, as I understand it, she had a reduction and then went back and got implants), so things will be different now.

In this photo, she’s about 5’2”, based on the tape measurement and fairly broad shouldered - but still slim (I am super-jealous of jus how slim!). So, I’m thinking she’s in the 30-32 back region, with a J-K cup. I’m thinking 32J/JJ - she has very similar projection and bodyshape to someone I know, and she’s a slightly bigger 32K, so I reckon 32JJ is probably about right (depending on the bra).

She's 5'3" tall, so that was a good approximation just by looking at that leg measurement.  :)

It’s weird isn’t it? I’m 5’4” - and, in my mind, she seems way taller than I am - but it’s down to a lot of factors (not least of which is how they tend to photograph models; from slightly lower angles to make them seem tall and statuesque): she wears heels a lot, and is often standing with models of a similar or smaller height. She has mega-long thigh bones - which I have too (top secret hint for dating women with long thigh bones: doggie-style sex is often uncomfortable!) - and, models always arch their backs to project out their chest, and also tighten their calves to add another inch. But it was easy enough to figure out a rough height with the measuring tape there in the photo. Her bra size is a little more tricky - but if she was standing in front of me, my first guess would be 32JJ - but I’d have to try her with a few different bras/brands to be sure. She looks low set, slightly west-east, so a full cup or a balconette would work well (or, *would* have worked well - I don’t know what would work now). 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 02, 2022, 08:15:34 AM
Here we have a fan fav Linsey Dawn McKenzie - and some perspective.

This is an interesting one, because I know of this woman. I can remember a lot about her in the UK newspapers in the mid-90s. They promoted her as 36HH at the time - which was probably the size she was given using the +4 technique at Marks and Spencer. A 36HH sounds big, and I suppose it is in relative terms, but she’s not a 36HH (and, as I understand it, she had a reduction and then went back and got implants), so things will be different now.

In this photo, she’s about 5’2”, based on the tape measurement and fairly broad shouldered - but still slim (I am super-jealous of jus how slim!). So, I’m thinking she’s in the 30-32 back region, with a J-K cup. I’m thinking 32J/JJ - she has very similar projection and bodyshape to someone I know, and she’s a slightly bigger 32K, so I reckon 32JJ is probably about right (depending on the bra).

She's 5'3" tall, so that was a good approximation just by looking at that leg measurement.  :)

It’s weird isn’t it? I’m 5’4” - and, in my mind, she seems way taller than I am - but it’s down to a lot of factors (not least of which is how they tend to photograph models; from slightly lower angles to make them seem tall and statuesque): she wears heels a lot, and is often standing with models of a similar or smaller height. She has mega-long thigh bones - which I have too (top secret hint for dating women with long thigh bones: doggie-style sex is often uncomfortable!) - and, models always arch their backs to project out their chest, and also tighten their calves to add another inch. But it was easy enough to figure out a rough height with the measuring tape there in the photo. Her bra size is a little more tricky - but if she was standing in front of me, my first guess would be 32JJ - but I’d have to try her with a few different bras/brands to be sure. She looks low set, slightly west-east, so a full cup or a balconette would work well (or, *would* have worked well - I don’t know what would work now). 

I really like your dissertations that you give and your sharing of knowledge of women. After all, after God created Adam, he realized he had to do a do over and he created Eve which is why the female of the species is the pretty sex and the male is usually cannon fodder.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 03, 2022, 12:59:07 PM
I really like your dissertations that you give and your sharing of knowledge of women.
I agree completely.  Its why I prefer to talk to women and not men.  Not only do that have a larger vocabulary, they also have many interesting perspectives on things - not less their bodies.  I'm a man, I'm never going to have a baby or menopause - and it is fascinating to hear about things I'll never experience.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 03, 2022, 01:07:38 PM
Houston I think we've got a problem!

This lady seems to be wearing the wrong size...  I think its going to be a tough one for Margaret as we can't see her back - but cup size wise, I'm think the bra is a F, but she is now a J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 03, 2022, 01:12:28 PM
Houston I think we've got a problem!

This lady seems to be wearing the wrong size...  I think its going to be a tough one for Margaret as we can't see her back - but cup size wise, I'm think the bra is a F, but she is now a J.

Goodness me. Are there other photos of her?

The bra looks to be a 32/34D, maybe 34E. But she looks to be a 34H or 36GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 03, 2022, 01:27:32 PM
Are there other photos of her?
Nah its the only one I have - I just thought it was apt for this thread.  Probably one of old bras.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 04, 2022, 01:52:13 PM
Solomia Maievska.  I can't make my mind up on her size.  Not sure on this one.

She can be seem in motion here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3p_OiD64eA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3p_OiD64eA)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 04, 2022, 03:36:03 PM
Solomia Maievska.  I can't make my mind up on her size.  Not sure on this one.

She can be seem in motion here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3p_OiD64eA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3p_OiD64eA)

I’m tempted to say 32GG, but she is so slim, soI’m thinking 30HH or even 30J.

(She’s wearing the wrong band size in they video - you can see it riding up in the middle of her back - she needs to go up a band size and down a cup size).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 05, 2022, 04:10:08 AM
(She’s wearing the wrong band size in they video - you can see it riding up in the middle of her back - she needs to go up a band size and down a cup size).
I did notice that when I looked at the video again.   There are a few others of her modeling lingerie for Jasmine in Kyiv.


This one looks a bit better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qWzLmW_9w
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 05, 2022, 05:31:01 AM
(She’s wearing the wrong band size in they video - you can see it riding up in the middle of her back - she needs to go up a band size and down a cup size).
I did notice that when I looked at the video again.   There are a few others of her modeling lingerie for Jasmine in Kyiv.


This one looks a bit better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qWzLmW_9w

One thing about this video that struck out at me was how the people at the nearby tables weren't even looking at such beautiful women strutting down the runway.  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 06, 2022, 02:25:53 AM
One thing about this video that struck out at me was how the people at the nearby tables weren't even looking at such beautiful women strutting down the runway.  ??? ::)
The men were sitting with their wives - and looking would be verboten.

Today's customer in Margaret's boutique - I think she's a G cup going on my my own estimation.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2022, 02:54:20 AM
One thing about this video that struck out at me was how the people at the nearby tables weren't even looking at such beautiful women strutting down the runway.  ??? ::)
The men were sitting with their wives - and looking would be verboten.

Today's customer in Margaret's boutique - I think she's a G cup going on my my own estimation.

Could be any cup size, really - the band size is what will determine it though. Could be a 30G, could be a 28HH, but most likely something like a 32J. I’d really need to see more pics for context.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 07, 2022, 05:17:27 AM
the band size is what will determine it though.
Good point - this is the past of bra sizing that always feels counterintuitive to me.  I wonder who (man or woman) came up with the system of bra sizing we have today.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 07, 2022, 05:31:42 AM
Another fan fav for consideration - Rachel Aldana.


Maybe not the easiest pic to estimate - but I wonder what you think Margaret?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 07, 2022, 06:32:50 AM
Another fan fav for consideration - Rachel Aldana.


Maybe not the easiest pic to estimate - but I wonder what you think Margaret?

I think I’ve looked at Rachel before - but she seems to have changed size a bit since then (slightly bigger in the frame). I had previously estimated her to be something like a 32KK, but I think she’s probably more like a 34L or 34KK now. In truth, she’s probably into the realm of custom bras - or wearing slightly bigger band sizes to hold her boobs in the cups. It can’t be easy finding well-fitting bras, for sure. It’s important to recognise that she’s reallly short (probably about 5’2” or 5’3” - and really slim in the back, so her boobs naturally look much bigger. But she’s definitely on the KK+ side.

And, a really beautiful woman too. I really admire her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 10, 2022, 12:25:53 PM
more like a 34L or 34KK now. In truth, she’s probably into the realm of custom bras
Goodness gravy - and expensive I guess.  Any idea how much a custom bra would cost?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 10, 2022, 12:30:23 PM
I guess these are quite a common size and shape for many women?

I find it quite hard to judge her size, I think I've been looking at large for so long I've lost my yardstick.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 10, 2022, 04:07:27 PM
more like a 34L or 34KK now. In truth, she’s probably into the realm of custom bras
Goodness gravy - and expensive I guess.  Any idea how much a custom bra would cost?

Not cheap. Some people do their own - but a proper, fitted custom bra would be £150+
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 10, 2022, 04:10:17 PM
I guess these are quite a common size and shape for many women?

I find it quite hard to judge her size, I think I've been looking at large for so long I've lost my yardstick.

Possibly a 34D, but could be a 32DD or 32E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 13, 2022, 04:44:47 AM
Not cheap. Some people do their own
Actually make one from scratch, or adapt one?


but a proper, fitted custom bra would be £150+
That does seem a lot.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 13, 2022, 04:49:25 AM
I love pics with something to give context to her size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 13, 2022, 05:46:25 AM
Not cheap. Some people do their own
Actually make one from scratch, or adapt one?


but a proper, fitted custom bra would be £150+
That does seem a lot.

Yeah - make their own. Although, it’s really difficult.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 13, 2022, 05:48:12 AM
I love pics with something to give context to her size.

Definitely on the 32J or 34HH territory.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 14, 2022, 05:10:41 AM
Yeah - make their own. Although, it’s really difficult.
I'll bet it is.  I've only used a sowing machine a couple of times, can't imagine how you'd sow a bra. 


Today pic - multiple choice!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 14, 2022, 06:24:48 AM
Yeah - make their own. Although, it’s really difficult.
I'll bet it is.  I've only used a sowing machine a couple of times, can't imagine how you'd sow a bra. 


Today pic - multiple choice!

From left to right (and from memory!):

Charlotte: 30HH
Alice: 32K
Lizzie: 32H
Sophie: 32G

(I was a keen follower and supporter of Star in A Bra back in the day!)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: salem on October 14, 2022, 03:30:18 PM
Another fan fav for consideration - Rachel Aldana.


Maybe not the easiest pic to estimate - but I wonder what you think Margaret?

I think I’ve looked at Rachel before - but she seems to have changed size a bit since then (slightly bigger in the frame). I had previously estimated her to be something like a 32KK, but I think she’s probably more like a 34L or 34KK now. In truth, she’s probably into the realm of custom bras - or wearing slightly bigger band sizes to hold her boobs in the cups. It can’t be easy finding well-fitting bras, for sure. It’s important to recognise that she’s reallly short (probably about 5’2” or 5’3” - and really slim in the back, so her boobs naturally look much bigger. But she’s definitely on the KK+ side.

And, a really beautiful woman too. I really admire her.

Rachel is actually 5 feet 6
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 14, 2022, 04:24:54 PM
Another fan fav for consideration - Rachel Aldana.


Maybe not the easiest pic to estimate - but I wonder what you think Margaret?

I think I’ve looked at Rachel before - but she seems to have changed size a bit since then (slightly bigger in the frame). I had previously estimated her to be something like a 32KK, but I think she’s probably more like a 34L or 34KK now. In truth, she’s probably into the realm of custom bras - or wearing slightly bigger band sizes to hold her boobs in the cups. It can’t be easy finding well-fitting bras, for sure. It’s important to recognise that she’s reallly short (probably about 5’2” or 5’3” - and really slim in the back, so her boobs naturally look much bigger. But she’s definitely on the KK+ side.

And, a really beautiful woman too. I really admire her.

Rachel is actually 5 feet 6

That’s surprising.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 16, 2022, 05:31:16 AM
Just to mix it up a bit - a lady with a bigger band size.


I was way off with my estimations of my previous pic.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 16, 2022, 06:29:04 AM
Just to mix it up a bit - a lady with a bigger band size.


I was way off with my estimations of my previous pic.

Difficult to say, as I can’t see her from the front (and she’s wearing a basque/bustier that’s too small in the cups).

We’re probably talking a 36/38 back - possibly 40, with F/FF cups. But I really couldn’t say with any degree of certainty.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 17, 2022, 11:51:54 AM
Difficult to say, as I can’t see her from the front (and she’s wearing a basque/bustier that’s too small in the cups).
I wish had some more pics that would give you a better view.  I find it quite hard to find suitable pictures that would give you a datum.

We’re probably talking a 36/38 back - possibly 40, with F/FF cups. But I really couldn’t say with any degree of certainty.
40 would have been my estimate, but it is hard to know when we don't know her height.


Todays customer - her chest is slightly obscured, but there is a kitchen top behind that may give a hint to her height.  I have no idea what that thing is she is holding.   
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 17, 2022, 11:58:19 AM
Difficult to say, as I can’t see her from the front (and she’s wearing a basque/bustier that’s too small in the cups).
I wish had some more pics that would give you a better view.  I find it quite hard to find suitable pictures that would give you a datum.

We’re probably talking a 36/38 back - possibly 40, with F/FF cups. But I really couldn’t say with any degree of certainty.
40 would have been my estimate, but it is hard to know when we don't know her height.


Todays customer - her chest is slightly obscured, but there is a kitchen top behind that may give a hint to her height.  I have no idea what that thing is she is holding.

Naked ironing. Terrible idea. I’ve burned my boobs on hair straighteners and also singed myself with the clothes iron too. Nasty business.

Another difficult one - but the shape is familiar (not unlike my own), so we’re maybe looking at something along the lines of a 32F/FF. But, with the caveat that other pics would be helpful.

PS I like the look of that dress.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 17, 2022, 12:30:28 PM
Naked ironing. Terrible idea. I’ve burned my boobs on hair straighteners and also singed myself with the clothes iron too. Nasty business.
Yeah must be. Its like when you see pics of nude cooking.  I do make my first coffee in the morning with no clothes on. I was (recently) making a coffee half asleep, when I splashed some boiling water on my gentleman's area!

PS I like the look of that dress.
She is in the UK I think going on the plug sockets.  I wonder where she got it.


32F is a fantastic size - like a goldilocks size. 


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 21, 2022, 02:35:52 AM
Talking 32F - maybe ?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 21, 2022, 02:38:22 AM
Talking 32F - maybe ?

I was thinking the same. 32F.

These two recent women have almost exactly the same shape and frame as me (I’m a 32FF though - depending on the manufacturer).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 21, 2022, 05:19:20 AM
These two recent women have almost exactly the same shape and frame as me (I’m a 32FF though - depending on the manufacturer).
You must have a great figure Margaret.


32F vs 32FF - is there much in it?  (ha ha, just realised what I said there)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 21, 2022, 08:21:48 AM
These two recent women have almost exactly the same shape and frame as me (I’m a 32FF though - depending on the manufacturer).
You must have a great figure Margaret.


32F vs 32FF - is there much in it?  (ha ha, just realised what I said there)

There was a time when I thought I had a great figure. Probably not so much now. Getting too old!

There isn’t much in it between a 32F and a 32FF, except at least one inch (on both cups) of cup material (the bands are almost identical in size). So, for example, I can’t wear a 32F - it’s too tight in the cups. I can sometimes (it depends on the manufacturer) get into a 30G, but they can be quite tight on. And it’s not awful wearing a 34F bra, but a 34F tends to be too loose on me on the band (bras are meant to be tight, especially around the back band). I’ve been as big as 34GG (when I was pregnant) - I needed the bigger band, and my boobs were massive.

The basic principle of bras is if you go down a band size, you go up a cup size - and vice-versa - as the band increase/decrease and the cup increase/decrease often compensates. It’s a multi-factorial thing, you just have to try them out and see what works best.

My principle has always been that if you get the band size right, the rest will follow.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: wahoo on October 21, 2022, 10:46:56 AM
Nancy Quill.  What do you think the size would be?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 21, 2022, 11:22:29 AM
Nancy Quill.  What do you think the size would be?

I don’t know this woman. Do you have any photos of her you an post?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: wahoo on October 21, 2022, 11:45:36 AM
there is a thread on her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on October 21, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Nancy Quill.  What do you think the size would be?

I don’t know this woman. Do you have any photos of her you an post?

Her thread happens to be on the first page in General Discussion, at the moment

 https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 21, 2022, 01:34:48 PM
Nancy Quill.  What do you think the size would be?

I don’t know this woman. Do you have any photos of her you an post?

Her thread happens to be on the first page in General Discussion, at the moment

 https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0)

Difficult to say - although, those look like implants?

She’s in the big territory - not height-wise - she seems short(ish). But she has a very slim back and not terribly broad shoulders, so she’s definitely a low back size - and proportionately, big cup size, so I’m going to estimate in the 32K/KK territory.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on October 21, 2022, 02:34:16 PM
Nancy Quill.  What do you think the size would be?

I don’t know this woman. Do you have any photos of her you an post?

Her thread happens to be on the first page in General Discussion, at the moment

 https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0)

Difficult to say - although, those look like implants?

She’s in the big territory - not height-wise - she seems short(ish). But she has a very slim back and not terribly broad shoulders, so she’s definitely a low back size - and proportionately, big cup size, so I’m going to estimate in the 32K/KK territory.

Yes, implants
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on October 21, 2022, 03:15:20 PM
Did we do Carmen Sandi, yet?  Says she’s a 36M cup.

For more references see https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001074.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001074.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 22, 2022, 03:50:26 AM
Did we do Carmen Sandi, yet?  Says she’s a 36M cup.

For more references see https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001074.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10001074.0)

She might be wearing a 36M, but I don’t think she’s a 36M in a bra.

She’s too small to be wearing a 36 back, and M cup is much bigger than that.

She’s probably a 32 back (34 at a push) and up in the KK/L category.

I’d need to see a non-forced perspective shot to give a better assessment - and, perhaps a photo of her in a decent-fitting bra.

I’m going to say 32KK.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 22, 2022, 12:19:53 PM
There was a time when I thought I had a great figure. Probably not so much now. Getting too old!
You made think about something a female friend said to me once.  She said that when she was in her prime, when getting ready to go out, she often admire herself in the mirror.  From her expression; I assumed in an erotic sort of way.   

She had a good body - I guess a good body is attractive, even for the person who owns it?  This has never been my own experience - I guess the same for the majority of men. 

My principle has always been that if you get the band size right, the rest will follow.
Good advice.

So today I thought - side boob - can I see a mark on her skin where the band went?  My guess is 34H (if that is actually is a size)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 22, 2022, 12:58:06 PM
There was a time when I thought I had a great figure. Probably not so much now. Getting too old!
You made think about something a female friend said to me once.  She said that when she was in her prime, when getting ready to go out, she often admire herself in the mirror.  From her expression; I assumed in an erotic sort of way.   

She had a good body - I guess a good body is attractive, even for the person who owns it?  This has never been my own experience - I guess the same for the majority of men. 

My principle has always been that if you get the band size right, the rest will follow.
Good advice.

So today I thought - side boob - can I see a mark on her skin where the band went?  My guess is 34H (if that is actually is a size)

I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies. I know I have, over the years. I’ve never been quite happy with it - whether it be weight gain/loss, post-baby fat, boobs expanding (and rarely contracting), clothes not fitting etc. However, there’s the odd time that I buy something nice and really feel good in it - and sometimes even feel proud of my shape. Although, I am the last person in the world to flaunt my curves or dress provocatively. I’m always conscious of stares and judgement. But, I will say this: when you find a man (or woman) whose jaw drops when they see you in lingerie (or naked), there’s few better feelings. It’s a huge confidence boost.

So, on to this new lady. It’s difficult to judge because the photo has been taken at a weird angle - so the boobs look bigger than they probably are. However, they look big - 34H is not a million miles away, but I have no way of knowing for sure what the band size would be. But the cup size is going to be big, probably H-J, but a smaller back size is perhaps going to mean smaller cup size (GG/H).

And yes, that looks like band marks. Very common. When models go to photo shoots, they’re always advised not to wear a bra on the day - just a vest or t-shirt, otherwise when they take off their clothes, their body looks like someone has been drawing lines all over them. Hence, when you see naked models, their boobs look smooth and appealing to the eye (with no crease marks). Body makeup also helps.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 23, 2022, 05:00:21 AM
I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies.
I agree. Certainly all the female partners I've had have to a certain degree.   I have female friends that I will make a point of complementing, whether it be the new hairstyle or that bit of weightloss.  It is what I am thinking anyway.  Personally, (and I like to think all men think like this) as long as they are healthy, I'm more than happy with how they look.

I like to see a woman in lingerie, and my jaw has been on the floor a number of times.  But I think it is hard to convey the sense of appreciation without seeming seedy.  I like the aesthetic of a woman's body, it isn't all sexual.

I will try to find some better pictures - I was thinking of animated pics - maybe that would help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 23, 2022, 05:17:45 AM
Bit of a test post.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 23, 2022, 05:32:45 AM
Bit of a test post.

Relatively easy this one - probably in the 28FF/30F range. Really slim back, full on bottom and curved out - so reasonably big in the cup. 

Edit: interestingly, she claims she’s a 34H, but her back doesn’t seem broad enough for a 34. I could be wrong though - but a 34H is generally much broader and more full in the boobs. (See attached from @theirishbralady)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 23, 2022, 05:43:11 AM
I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies.
I agree. Certainly all the female partners I've had have to a certain degree.   I have female friends that I will make a point of complementing, whether it be the new hairstyle or that bit of weightloss.  It is what I am thinking anyway.  Personally, (and I like to think all men think like this) as long as they are healthy, I'm more than happy with how they look.

I like to see a woman in lingerie, and my jaw has been on the floor a number of times.  But I think it is hard to convey the sense of appreciation without seeming seedy.  I like the aesthetic of a woman's body, it isn't all sexual.

I will try to find some better pictures - I was thinking of animated pics - maybe that would help.

Regarding compliments to women, I’ve found that when men compliment something about you that isn’t about your body, it’s more pleasant and less leery or creepy. Saying something like “have you changed your hair? It looks great.” Or “cool trainers” or “I love your jacket” - are better than a compliment like “your figure looks amazing” or “you have incredible legs” or something like that. Alternatively, just say nothing - just be nice.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 23, 2022, 06:00:44 AM
I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies.
I agree. Certainly all the female partners I've had have to a certain degree.   I have female friends that I will make a point of complementing, whether it be the new hairstyle or that bit of weightloss.  It is what I am thinking anyway.  Personally, (and I like to think all men think like this) as long as they are healthy, I'm more than happy with how they look.

I like to see a woman in lingerie, and my jaw has been on the floor a number of times.  But I think it is hard to convey the sense of appreciation without seeming seedy.  I like the aesthetic of a woman's body, it isn't all sexual.

I will try to find some better pictures - I was thinking of animated pics - maybe that would help.

Regarding compliments to women, I’ve found that when men compliment something about you that isn’t about your body, it’s more pleasant and less leery or creepy. Saying something like “have you changed your hair? It looks great.” Or “cool trainers” or “I love your jacket” - are better than a compliment like “your figure looks amazing” or “you have incredible legs” or something like that. Alternatively, just say nothing - just be nice.

My experience has taught me that if any body part that women don't seem to get creeped out so much is if you compliment it, is their faces. Yes, boobs, butts, legs, etc can alienate the ladies unless it is in a private, intimate situation but in public situation, if you say something like, "Good morning, things must be going great, you've got such a beautiful smile!" the ladies will usually say, "Yes, thank you!" and the rest of the day will go well with her. In other words, be a gentleman.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 23, 2022, 08:26:55 AM
I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies.
I agree. Certainly all the female partners I've had have to a certain degree.   I have female friends that I will make a point of complementing, whether it be the new hairstyle or that bit of weightloss.  It is what I am thinking anyway.  Personally, (and I like to think all men think like this) as long as they are healthy, I'm more than happy with how they look.

I like to see a woman in lingerie, and my jaw has been on the floor a number of times.  But I think it is hard to convey the sense of appreciation without seeming seedy.  I like the aesthetic of a woman's body, it isn't all sexual.

I will try to find some better pictures - I was thinking of animated pics - maybe that would help.

Regarding compliments to women, I’ve found that when men compliment something about you that isn’t about your body, it’s more pleasant and less leery or creepy. Saying something like “have you changed your hair? It looks great.” Or “cool trainers” or “I love your jacket” - are better than a compliment like “your figure looks amazing” or “you have incredible legs” or something like that. Alternatively, just say nothing - just be nice.

My experience has taught me that if any body part that women don't seem to get creeped out so much is if you compliment it, is their faces. Yes, boobs, butts, legs, etc can alienate the ladies unless it is in a private, intimate situation but in public situation, if you say something like, "Good morning, things must be going great, you've got such a beautiful smile!" the ladies will usually say, "Yes, thank you!" and the rest of the day will go well with her. In other words, be a gentleman.  :)

Exactly. Before you speak, you should ask yourself the question “would I say this to a man?”
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 23, 2022, 08:36:43 AM
I think all people (women in particular) have difficult relationships with their bodies.
I agree. Certainly all the female partners I've had have to a certain degree.   I have female friends that I will make a point of complementing, whether it be the new hairstyle or that bit of weightloss.  It is what I am thinking anyway.  Personally, (and I like to think all men think like this) as long as they are healthy, I'm more than happy with how they look.

I like to see a woman in lingerie, and my jaw has been on the floor a number of times.  But I think it is hard to convey the sense of appreciation without seeming seedy.  I like the aesthetic of a woman's body, it isn't all sexual.

I will try to find some better pictures - I was thinking of animated pics - maybe that would help.

Regarding compliments to women, I’ve found that when men compliment something about you that isn’t about your body, it’s more pleasant and less leery or creepy. Saying something like “have you changed your hair? It looks great.” Or “cool trainers” or “I love your jacket” - are better than a compliment like “your figure looks amazing” or “you have incredible legs” or something like that. Alternatively, just say nothing - just be nice.

My experience has taught me that if any body part that women don't seem to get creeped out so much is if you compliment it, is their faces. Yes, boobs, butts, legs, etc can alienate the ladies unless it is in a private, intimate situation but in public situation, if you say something like, "Good morning, things must be going great, you've got such a beautiful smile!" the ladies will usually say, "Yes, thank you!" and the rest of the day will go well with her. In other words, be a gentleman.  :)

Exactly. Before you speak, you should ask yourself the question “would I say this to a man?”

As a man, I would never compliment him about his looks. I don't swing that way. Now, if I know him and he is a happy mood, I would ask him, "Did you get laid?"  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 23, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
Saying something like “have you changed your hair? It looks great.” Or “cool trainers” or “I love your jacket” - are better than a compliment
I said "I like you wearing those trainers" just a few days ago to a female friend.   I may have thinking 'your boobs look great' but like you says, it isn't always comfortable to hear that.  Even for someone you know well.

What I have noticed is; colour is important to women. More so than men I feel, who are often colourblind (I am).  So, I may get a compliment like, "I like that color on you".  I'm going to struggle to reciprocate that though - I have no idea.  But I do notice her fashion.

I have had a woman compliment me on the colour of my lips - and it did make me feel slightly uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 23, 2022, 08:52:47 PM
I have had a woman compliment me on the colour of my lips - and it did make me feel slightly uncomfortable.

What brand and color lipstick do you use?  ??? ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 24, 2022, 02:47:09 AM
What brand and color lipstick do you use?  ??? ::) ;) ;D
ha ha.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 24, 2022, 02:47:57 AM
Another test post.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 24, 2022, 03:32:04 AM
Another test post.

Possibly a 34G or 32H, but there’s a bit of push-up/moulded bra going on here, so the boobs look bigger than the probably are. The cup size is possibly a little bit smaller - maybe 34FF/32FF.

Edit/add; I hadn’t “tapped” this image to see it animate, so one thing I noticed after I did was her boobs bulging out of the sides of the bra (cups are too small), which makes me think my initial guess of 32G was about right. However, I think if she had a proper fitting, she would probably be comfortable in a 34FF, as I think she needs the bigger band size, and her boobs look roughly similar in size to mine.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 25, 2022, 03:53:40 AM
her boobs bulging out of the sides of the bra (cups are too small),
Oh yeah, just seen that.  If I was a woman, and I had to wear a bra - the one thing I'd want it to be would be comfortable.  That can't be comfortable - although it she probably wore it for esthetic reasons.

Today I thought I'd try something different.

Guess the size from the bra not the boob - not sure if this'll work or not.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 25, 2022, 06:54:47 PM
her boobs bulging out of the sides of the bra (cups are too small),
Oh yeah, just seen that.  If I was a woman, and I had to wear a bra - the one thing I'd want it to be would be comfortable.  That can't be comfortable - although it she probably wore it for esthetic reasons.

Today I thought I'd try something different.

Guess the size from the bra not the boob - not sure if this'll work or not.

It’s hard to say, because I can’t see the total length of the band. However, it looks to be about 24-26 inches (about 66cm), which is not big at all. Maybe in the 28F category?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 26, 2022, 03:08:39 AM
It’s hard to say, because I can’t see the total length of the band. However, it looks to be about 24-26 inches (about 66cm), which is not big at all. Maybe in the 28F category?
I thought this would be more of a challenge - maybe a little too difficult to be honest.  one clue is the band is 36.

While your digesting that one - here's another.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 26, 2022, 05:29:46 AM
It’s hard to say, because I can’t see the total length of the band. However, it looks to be about 24-26 inches (about 66cm), which is not big at all. Maybe in the 28F category?
I thought this would be more of a challenge - maybe a little too difficult to be honest.  one clue is the band is 36.

While your digesting that one - here's another.

Not seeing the band makes it difficult, because bras are made in a similar way to cars; different sizes can re-use up to about 80% similar components. (Similar cup sizes can have different bands and vice versa).

If it’s a 36 band, it’s possibly a 36D, possibly E - but who knows. It doesn’t look large in the cup for a bra if it’s dimensions.

The second bra - I have one of these (Panache Tango II). Looks much bigger in the cups, so possibly a G cup? Maybe something like 34G?

I’m enjoying this, but it’s a bit like trying to identify the exact model of a car from the hood ornament.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 26, 2022, 06:23:47 AM
It’s hard to say, because I can’t see the total length of the band. However, it looks to be about 24-26 inches (about 66cm), which is not big at all. Maybe in the 28F category?
I thought this would be more of a challenge - maybe a little too difficult to be honest.  one clue is the band is 36.

While your digesting that one - here's another.

Not seeing the band makes it difficult, because bras are made in a similar way to cars; different sizes can re-use up to about 80% similar components. (Similar cup sizes can have different bands and vice versa).

If it’s a 36 band, it’s possibly a 36D, possibly E - but who knows. It doesn’t look large in the cup for a bra if it’s dimensions.

The second bra - I have one of these (Panache Tango II). Looks much bigger in the cups, so possibly a G cup? Maybe something like 34G?

I’m enjoying this, but it’s a bit like trying to identify the exact model of a car from the hood ornament.

Especially since a lot of cars nowadays don't even have hood ornaments anymore. Maybe on the front grille but sometimes not even there.  :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 27, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
Not seeing the band makes it difficult, because bras are made in a similar way to cars; different sizes can re-use up to about 80% similar components. (Similar cup sizes can have different bands and vice versa).
If I do more of these I'll try to give a better perspective.

If it’s a 36 band, it’s possibly a 36D, possibly E.
You're very good at this - its a 36E (ha ha Matalan)

The second bra - I have one of these (Panache Tango II). Looks much bigger in the cups, so possibly a G cup? Maybe something like 34G?
The band on this one is 38.

I’m enjoying this, but it’s a bit like trying to identify the exact model of a car from the hood ornament.
Yeah fair point - I'd though it would bring a added element to the challenge.  I'll have to have another look my donated bag to see what else I have. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 27, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
Not seeing the band makes it difficult, because bras are made in a similar way to cars; different sizes can re-use up to about 80% similar components. (Similar cup sizes can have different bands and vice versa).
If I do more of these I'll try to give a better perspective.

If it’s a 36 band, it’s possibly a 36D, possibly E.
You're very good at this - its a 36E (ha ha Matalan)

The second bra - I have one of these (Panache Tango II). Looks much bigger in the cups, so possibly a G cup? Maybe something like 34G?
The band on this one is 38.

I’m enjoying this, but it’s a bit like trying to identify the exact model of a car from the hood ornament.
Yeah fair point - I'd though it would bring a added element to the challenge.  I'll have to have another look my donated bag to see what else I have.
M if it’s a 38 band, I can only assume a large cup size - given the amount of material. Possibly a 38JJ?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 27, 2022, 03:26:24 PM
Not seeing the band makes it difficult, because bras are made in a similar way to cars; different sizes can re-use up to about 80% similar components. (Similar cup sizes can have different bands and vice versa).
If I do more of these I'll try to give a better perspective.

If it’s a 36 band, it’s possibly a 36D, possibly E.
You're very good at this - its a 36E (ha ha Matalan)

The second bra - I have one of these (Panache Tango II). Looks much bigger in the cups, so possibly a G cup? Maybe something like 34G?
The band on this one is 38.

I’m enjoying this, but it’s a bit like trying to identify the exact model of a car from the hood ornament.
Yeah fair point - I'd though it would bring a added element to the challenge.  I'll have to have another look my donated bag to see what else I have.

Matalan bras are very hit and miss. Same with Primark.

I may have asked this before, but are these all your own bras? If so, that’s impressive. How many do you have? Also, what do you do with them and where do you store them?

I find it fascinating. Obviously, I have a ton of bras, (although I had a clear out a few years ago and sold most of them on eBay - including all the ones from my pregnancy days). I have some I’ve never even worn.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: salem on October 28, 2022, 03:55:18 AM
Okay, my first contribution to this thread.

Ellie is a statuesque 5 ft 11, so her boobs must be pretty massive. I always thought she was nearer to 5 ft 5 or 6, it blew me away when I found out she was so tall.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 28, 2022, 03:59:07 AM
M if it’s a 38 band, I can only assume a large cup size - given the amount of material. Possibly a 38JJ?
Margaret - you are legend.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 28, 2022, 04:04:19 AM
I may have asked this before, but are these all your own bras? If so, that’s impressive. How many do you have? Also, what do you do with them and where do you store them?
Yeah all mine.  All donated over the years.  I keep them in an old rucksack in a upstairs room.  I don't do anything with them as such, it is just something I started collecting. Once you get one you seem to get another.   Once I'd got interested in boobs bras and lingerie, I really wanted to collect some of my own.

It is a good question on how many, I'm not sure - I will count, probably 10 or 12 I guess.

I will post another challenge tomorrow.

Edit:  Just read the rules again, and "If you own the legal copyrights to your images, you may post as many as you like at any time. You must include a "(c) ImageOwnerName" message with each image."

So that said: Copyright Hiram.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 28, 2022, 06:40:28 AM
Okay, my first contribution to this thread.

Ellie is a statuesque 5 ft 11, so her boobs must be pretty massive. I always thought she was nearer to 5 ft 5 or 6, it blew me away when I found out she was so tall.

If she’s 5’11” then I’d be estimating she has a slightly broader back, but she looks slim. So, she’s going to be in the 32-34 back size range. Given the fullness of her boobs though, I’m going to go for 34. I had originally roughly guessed at 32GG/H, but I’m thinking she’s somewhere in the 34HH or 34J category.

Edit: I should add, there’s often a bit of trickery goes on with models like this lovely lady. A smaller bikini (to emphasise the impression of a bigger size) and, because she’s young and her boobs/skin are still pliable and squishy, it’s easier to give them a rounded shape when they’re adequately supported or artificially lifted with a tight bra/bikini. So, she could easily be a 32/34G and we’re just seeing all the right angles and moves to make her seem bigger. Still - she’s utterly captivating. Who is she?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 28, 2022, 06:41:51 AM
M if it’s a 38 band, I can only assume a large cup size - given the amount of material. Possibly a 38JJ?
Margaret - you are legend.

Thank you. Big bra that. Who donated it?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 28, 2022, 06:42:27 AM
I may have asked this before, but are these all your own bras? If so, that’s impressive. How many do you have? Also, what do you do with them and where do you store them?
Yeah all mine.  All donated over the years.  I keep them in an old rucksack in a upstairs room.  I don't do anything with them as such, it is just something I started collecting. Once you get one you seem to get another.   Once I'd got interested in boobs bras and lingerie, I really wanted to collect some of my own.

It is a good question on how many, I'm not sure - I will count, probably 10 or 12 I guess.

I will post another challenge tomorrow.

Edit:  Just read the rules again, and "If you own the legal copyrights to your images, you may post as many as you like at any time. You must include a "(c) ImageOwnerName" message with each image."

So that said: Copyright Hiram.

I’m heading out for the day, so let me think about this one. I vaguely recognise that bra.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 29, 2022, 03:01:46 AM
Thank you. Big bra that. Who donated it?
All my collection has come from women I've known, or know.  That one is in the best condition and hardly worn - some I have are quite threadbare as they are castoffs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 29, 2022, 03:02:44 AM
I’m heading out for the day, so let me think about this one. I vaguely recognise that bra.
Have a great day - still quite mild. 

Bra is Anna Summers.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 29, 2022, 04:59:51 AM
I’m heading out for the day, so let me think about this one. I vaguely recognise that bra.
Have a great day - still quite mild. 

Bra is Anna Summers.

I’m going to guess 36D/DD.

Ann Summers are not known for their accuracy.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 30, 2022, 03:58:50 AM
I’m going to guess 36D/DD.

Ann Summers are not known for their accuracy.
Not far off.

Copyright: Hiram
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 30, 2022, 04:09:23 AM
Here we have a Marks and Spencer white bra.

Copyright: Hiram
 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 30, 2022, 11:48:59 AM
Here we have a Marks and Spencer white bra.

Copyright: Hiram

I’m going to guess a 32G for this bra.

It’s interesting, because the band material (when laid out) makes it look as though it’s only 26” across the back - when, in fact, the overall material is probably about 30-32 inches in length - but only when fully stretched. It’s all to do with the miracle of Lycra and elasticated fabric lining.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 30, 2022, 12:53:35 PM
I’m going to guess 36D/DD.

Ann Summers are not known for their accuracy.
Not far off.

Copyright: Hiram

I’ve only ever owned two Ann Summers bras (although I did have a basque that my then-boyfriend bought me), and their sizing was way off on one of the bras - although, the other was a blue/purple bra with lovely lace - it was nice and elasticated with underwire, and I used it a lot. It was a 36D, but I reckon it was more like a 34F. The basque was a bit of a joke - supposedly a 36D, but was more like a 32G - strictly bedroom wear and not designed to be worn for long. La Senza are/were a slightly more reliable brand. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 31, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
I’m going to guess a 32G for this bra.
Its a 34F.
It’s all to do with the miracle of Lycra and elasticated fabric lining.
This is one of my favourites bras.  I think the material and lace has a lot to do with it.
Copyright Hiram
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 31, 2022, 01:00:56 PM
and their sizing was way off on one of the bras
I find this an issue with some of the clothes I buy - jeans in particular.  But lots of things I buy don't seem to have a consistent sizing. 

So on to today's challenge:  The tag has TU and the size - no idea what brand TU is?

Copyright Hiram
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 31, 2022, 01:46:55 PM
I’m going to guess a 32G for this bra.
Its a 34F.
It’s all to do with the miracle of Lycra and elasticated fabric lining.
This is one of my favourites bras.  I think the material and lace has a lot to do with it.
Copyright Hiram

Interesting. 34F and 32G are similar bras (although a 34F is more like a 32GG).

M&S make nice bras - very supportive. Although, I haven’t bought any for years.

What is it you like about the bra?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 31, 2022, 01:48:27 PM
and their sizing was way off on one of the bras
I find this an issue with some of the clothes I buy - jeans in particular.  But lots of things I buy don't seem to have a consistent sizing. 

So on to today's challenge:  The tag has TU and the size - no idea what brand TU is?

Copyright Hiram

TU is Sainsbury’s.

This looks a bigger bra all round, so I’m going to have a guess at 38FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 01, 2022, 04:06:16 AM
What is it you like about the bra?
First off, I'd just like to say I am not a cross-dresser or anything.   I like them as they are nice garments.  Tactile materials and nice colours.  Yeah, I guess there is a small amount of sexual fantasy - especially the 38JJ ha ha.  But mostly it isn't about that.

I've had this discussion with female friend a number of times - and for me, it is that women have much more variety of clothes and styles. Look at any office, the guys wear suits and the ladies wear all sorts of styles and designs.  As a man I feel a bit hard-done-by to be honest.

So although I don't cross-dress, if society allowed me to dress differently, I may well feel like doing that if the mood took me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 01, 2022, 04:13:57 AM
TU is Sainsbury’s.

This looks a bigger bra all round, so I’m going to have a guess at 38FF.
Ah cheers, how are Sainsbury’s clothes?

You got the band spot on - but it is a E cup - but you are very close.

Now I need to take some more pictures of my collection - there are a couple I have in mind for my next challenge.  I have 15 bras in total.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 01, 2022, 02:37:09 PM
What is it you like about the bra?
First off, I'd just like to say I am not a cross-dresser or anything.   I like them as they are nice garments.  Tactile materials and nice colours.  Yeah, I guess there is a small amount of sexual fantasy - especially the 38JJ ha ha.  But mostly it isn't about that.

I've had this discussion with female friend a number of times - and for me, it is that women have much more variety of clothes and styles. Look at any office, the guys wear suits and the ladies wear all sorts of styles and designs.  As a man I feel a bit hard-done-by to be honest.

So although I don't cross-dress, if society allowed me to dress differently, I may well feel like doing that if the mood took me.

Of course, I understand. I hope it didn’t sound as though I was suggesting that.

I just find it fascinating that not only are some men fans of big boobs - but they are also fans of bras (or lingerie in general). I totally get the whole thing about the choices women have in regards to fashion/footwear/underwear over the  limited choices men have. Sometimes, there’s too much choice, and sometimes it can lead to frustration and upset. Mostly because not all women are shaped the same, and you can get a false impression of how something might look on you, compared to someone else (or the model that inspired the choice). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s really depressing when it doesn’t (I’ve cried real tears after ordering an outfit and finding that I look a mess in it) - but it’s truly magical when it does work; with the right bra set, the right dress/combo outfit and the right shoes or boots - when the shapes all combine, as a woman, you feel confident, sexy and desired.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 01, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
What is it you like about the bra?
First off, I'd just like to say I am not a cross-dresser or anything.   I like them as they are nice garments.  Tactile materials and nice colours.  Yeah, I guess there is a small amount of sexual fantasy - especially the 38JJ ha ha.  But mostly it isn't about that.

I've had this discussion with female friend a number of times - and for me, it is that women have much more variety of clothes and styles. Look at any office, the guys wear suits and the ladies wear all sorts of styles and designs.  As a man I feel a bit hard-done-by to be honest.

So although I don't cross-dress, if society allowed me to dress differently, I may well feel like doing that if the mood took me.

Of course, I understand. I hope it didn’t sound as though I was suggesting that.

I just find it fascinating that not only are some men fans of big boobs - but they are also fans of bras (or lingerie in general). I totally get the whole thing about the choices women have in regards to fashion/footwear/underwear over the  limited choices men have. Sometimes, there’s too much choice, and sometimes it can lead to frustration and upset. Mostly because not all women are shaped the same, and you can get a false impression of how something might look on you, compared to someone else (or the model that inspired the choice). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s really depressing when it doesn’t (I’ve cried real tears after ordering an outfit and finding that I look a mess in it) - but it’s truly magical when it does work; with the right bra set, the right dress/combo outfit and the right shoes or boots - when the shapes all combine, as a woman, you feel confident, sexy and desired.

I like lingerie and its accruements because it makes women sexier. Remember, God made Adam and in a little while later, he had to do a do- over and so he made Eve because Adam is generally ugly while Eve is generally pretty. Guess I'm old fashioned since bras and lingerie are feminine and I like feminine women. Women are the pretty sex so they need/get the pretty undergarments. I greatly appreciate your presence here Margaret because you teach us about the mysteries of the bra.  ;) ;D 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 02, 2022, 04:26:00 AM
Of course, I understand. I hope it didn’t sound as though I was suggesting that.
Ha ha, no, just me telling myself probably just in case!

I just find it fascinating that not only are some men fans of big boobs - but they are also fans of bras (or lingerie in general)
I think I always have been - but society moulds us in certain ways.  Pink for girls and blue for boys.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if there are a lot of men who think the same as me.

I'm heterosexual - my other hobbies are pretty normal for a man.  But I also appreciate pretty and stylish clothes.  I find no contradiction in liking both.   I've also had a go at cutting women's hair - its creative and I like that aspect of it. 

I do find women find it unexpected when I show an interest in what they wear and how their hair looks.  Mind you, a six hour tour round clothes shop isn't something I particularly enjoy. 

I think you are spot on about the quantity of choice women have with clothes.  Winter and summer outfits for a start - as a man I pretty much wear the same but with more layers.  Actually I think it is easier to choose clothes for other people than yourself.   I'm often told things I buy don't suit me - and to be honest they are right. 

I need to get some more photos - so in the interim - here's my latest challenge.  I think I know what size she'd likely be, but what do you think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 02, 2022, 06:52:42 AM
Of course, I understand. I hope it didn’t sound as though I was suggesting that.
Ha ha, no, just me telling myself probably just in case!

I just find it fascinating that not only are some men fans of big boobs - but they are also fans of bras (or lingerie in general)
I think I always have been - but society moulds us in certain ways.  Pink for girls and blue for boys.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if there are a lot of men who think the same as me.

I'm heterosexual - my other hobbies are pretty normal for a man.  But I also appreciate pretty and stylish clothes.  I find no contradiction in liking both.   I've also had a go at cutting women's hair - its creative and I like that aspect of it. 

I do find women find it unexpected when I show an interest in what they wear and how their hair looks.  Mind you, a six hour tour round clothes shop isn't something I particularly enjoy. 

I think you are spot on about the quantity of choice women have with clothes.  Winter and summer outfits for a start - as a man I pretty much wear the same but with more layers.  Actually I think it is easier to choose clothes for other people than yourself.   I'm often told things I buy don't suit me - and to be honest they are right. 

I need to get some more photos - so in the interim - here's my latest challenge.  I think I know what size she'd likely be, but what do you think?

I’ve had a look at other photos of her. She’s fond of wearing a push-up bra that’s two sizes too small for her - which makes her boobs look bigger. They’re not that big, and she’s pretty small and slight in the frame. I’d say 28FF-30F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on November 03, 2022, 01:36:56 PM
My first request, Margaret. The lovely Valentina. She's grown steadily over the years. She's about 5'4". Average weight. This is the best recent pic, sorry no bikini shots (she has many but older or not the right angle). I'd say she is at least a 34JJ/KK; what say you?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on November 03, 2022, 02:17:19 PM
My first request, Margaret. The lovely Valentina. She's grown steadily over the years. She's about 5'4". Average weight. This is the best recent pic, sorry no bikini shots (she has many but older or not the right angle). I'd say she is at least a 34JJ/KK; what say you?

Superion, what’s her last name?  Not familiar with her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 03, 2022, 08:10:02 PM
My first request, Margaret. The lovely Valentina. She's grown steadily over the years. She's about 5'4". Average weight. This is the best recent pic, sorry no bikini shots (she has many but older or not the right angle). I'd say she is at least a 34JJ/KK; what say you?

I’m hesitant to say she’s a 34 back, because her boobs seem too big for her to be a 34JJ (I’d expect a 34JJ to be broader in the shoulders/frame and the boobs to be slightly smaller than hers). The other thing is that she’s clearly pushing her boobs up and out, and has a really slim midriff, so her boobs appear to look even bigger.

With all that in mind, I’m thinking she’s more in the 30/32 back range, and probably in the JJ/K/KK cup size range. But I’d have to see a pic of her in a bra or bikini, if possible, to get a better idea. She’s definitely big on the cup side, whatever size she is.

Oh, and she’s really stunning. Tell me more about her!

Edit/update: now that I’ve seen more pics of her (on Instagram), I’m more inclined to think she’s somewhere Around 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 04, 2022, 07:42:51 AM
She’s fond of wearing a push-up bra that’s two sizes too small for her - which makes her boobs look bigger. They’re not that big, and she’s pretty small and slight in the frame. I’d say 28FF-30F.
This is, to be honest a superpower women have.  The humble bra can be used to such effect - it is remarkable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on November 04, 2022, 07:51:39 AM

Oh, and she’s really stunning. Tell me more about her!

Edit/update: now that I’ve seen more pics of her (on Instagram), I’m more inclined to think she’s somewhere Around 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out.

How did you find her on IG?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 04, 2022, 08:00:22 AM

Oh, and she’s really stunning. Tell me more about her!

Edit/update: now that I’ve seen more pics of her (on Instagram), I’m more inclined to think she’s somewhere Around 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out.

How did you find her on IG?

Her username is Lali957.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on November 04, 2022, 10:33:58 AM

Oh, and she’s really stunning. Tell me more about her!

Edit/update: now that I’ve seen more pics of her (on Instagram), I’m more inclined to think she’s somewhere Around 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out.

How did you find her on IG?

Her username is Lali957.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 04, 2022, 01:58:54 PM
Okay then.

I have the size, but the tag is so worn I have no idea where this bra was purchased.

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Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 04, 2022, 04:04:10 PM
Okay then.

I have the size, but the tag is so worn I have no idea where this bra was purchased.

A moulded bra. These are always tricky. But it looks like it could be a 34-36D/E maybe? Looks like it could be by George (Asda) or something like that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 05, 2022, 04:02:08 AM
A moulded bra. These are always tricky. But it looks like it could be a 34-36D/E maybe? Looks like it could be by George (Asda) or something like that.
I have a couple of moulded bras. 

You are not too far off.

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Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 05, 2022, 04:05:36 AM
So for today - something different.  A front fastening bra.

The tags are worn, so I have no idea what the size of this actually is.

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Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 05, 2022, 07:19:14 AM
So for today - something different.  A front fastening bra.

The tags are worn, so I have no idea what the size of this actually is.

Copyright Hiram

These rarely come in big sizes, for obvious reasons. I’d be guessing, but possibly a 36C/D. You’d be able to get a rough size by comparing it to one of your other bras.

Add: I’ve had one or two of these front-fastening bras over the years. They’re usually terrible. They tend to work better at smaller cup sizes, but they’re mostly no good. Same with strapless bras - so difficult to get one that works well. I have a few in my collection for emergencies/special occasions, but they’re not the kind of bras you’d want to be wearing for long periods of time. And don’t get me started on “cupless” bras. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 05, 2022, 08:51:05 AM
She’s fond of wearing a push-up bra that’s two sizes too small for her - which makes her boobs look bigger. They’re not that big, and she’s pretty small and slight in the frame. I’d say 28FF-30F.
This is, to be honest a superpower women have.  The humble bra can be used to such effect - it is remarkable.

Trust me, it’s rarely comfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 06, 2022, 02:40:47 AM
You’d be able to get a rough size by comparing it to one of your other bras.
That's a good idea.

I’ve had one or two of these front-fastening bras over the years. They’re usually terrible.
When I first saw a front fastener, I though, yeah that look better.  But then I've never had to use one - so interesting to hear your experiences. I always wondered why bras fasten at the back rather than the front.   When I seem women putting on bras, there seems to be one or two techniques    Put bra on back to front, fasten at front and twist to correct alignment, and put arm through.  Or fasten at back and put arm through.   

I still marvel when I see a woman take her bra off under her clothes - it is like watching magician get out of a straightjacket.

Same with strapless bras - so difficult to get one that works well.
They do look uncomfortable - are they better for the bigger or smaller bust?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 06, 2022, 02:46:31 AM
One of my favs here - love the look of this one - love the material.

The brand is a well known fashion retailer here in the UK - sadly no longer with us.  Can you guess the size and the brand?

Copyright Hiram
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 06, 2022, 07:53:53 AM
One of my favs here - love the look of this one - love the material.

The brand is a well known fashion retailer here in the UK - sadly no longer with us.  Can you guess the size and the brand?

Copyright Hiram

Looks like a moulded BHS bra maybe?

Possibly, 36D or 34E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 06, 2022, 08:03:34 AM
You’d be able to get a rough size by comparing it to one of your other bras.
That's a good idea.

I’ve had one or two of these front-fastening bras over the years. They’re usually terrible.
When I first saw a front fastener, I though, yeah that look better.  But then I've never had to use one - so interesting to hear your experiences. I always wondered why bras fasten at the back rather than the front.   When I seem women putting on bras, there seems to be one or two techniques    Put bra on back to front, fasten at front and twist to correct alignment, and put arm through.  Or fasten at back and put arm through.   

I still marvel when I see a woman take her bra off under her clothes - it is like watching magician get out of a straightjacket.

Same with strapless bras - so difficult to get one that works well.
They do look uncomfortable - are they better for the bigger or smaller bust?

Everyone has slightly different techniques, but a common way is to put the bra on backwards (hook/eye fasteners at the front, cups pointing downwards at the back) then swivel it around so that the clasps are at the back and the cups at the front - then bring the bra up under your boobs, loop your arms into the straps and lean forward to pop your boobs into the cups - doing what’s now as the scoop and jiggle (where you get your boobs to settle into the cups and then put your hands into the cups and scoop your boobs into place.

Some women can put their bra on cups first and fasten at the back - but I just can’t do it. Although I can take my bra off by reaching back and unhooking it. You get used to it. And yes, we all learn eventually to take our bra off under clothes. It’s a magic trick only females know 😘

As for strapless bras, I’d say they work better with smaller boobs. Although, I have two Curvy Kate Luxe bras and they’re pretty special. Constructed with precision and they work remarkably well. The engineering principles behind bras is that the back band should do about 80% of the supporting, so a well-made strapless bra should (in theory) hold your boobs up reasonably well - but the bigger your boobs, the more support you need with straps - so on a strapless bra, the back band really does have to work hard - when you’re wearing the correct size, it feels really, really tight and restrictive, and your boobs tend to sit lower on your torso (and you end up constantly pulling up the bra all evening). But, when they work well, it means you can wear a nice strapless top or beautiful cocktail dress.

When the evening is over though, boy it’s a relief to get the thing off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 06, 2022, 10:18:08 AM
I keep meaning to add on this thread just how much I enjoy it. It’s like a little help forum all by itself - and you guys are all so polite and respectful. I don’t often read other threads, although sometimes I’m curious about the models (especially their poor bra size/fit choices!), but I love being on this one. It’s a little oasis for me.

I should add that I’m also happy to answer personal queries via DM - and, don’t be shy to ask me anything you like. I’m not easily offended, so fire away; bra-related, boob-related, sex-related, whatever-related - or just life in general.

I think the term is “AMA”.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 09, 2022, 01:48:17 AM
Looks like a moulded BHS bra maybe?

Possibly, 36D or 34E?
Not bad - 36C - the retailer was Topshop.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 09, 2022, 02:11:42 AM
a common way is to put the bra on backwards (hook/eye fasteners at the front, cups pointing downwards at the back) then swivel it around
It is a great technique - make perfect sense once you see it being done

It’s a magic trick only females know 😘
Its how you get your arms out that fascinates me.

The engineering principles behind bras is that the back band should do about 80% of the supporting,
Do they ever use those sticky pads that attach to the skin for some extra support?

When the evening is over though, boy it’s a relief to get the thing off.
Indeed - or an underwired bra I guess?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 09, 2022, 02:29:48 AM
It’s like a little help forum all by itself
It is - even though most men have wives girlfriends - having a bit of extra knowledge is really helpful.  I have advised a woman about sizing - certainly how to measure correctly.  As we know women can often go up and down in size.   But the quizzical look you get when mention it - maybe I shouldn't have offered to do the actual measure!  ha ha


and you guys are all so polite and respectful. I don’t often read other threads,
It has always been pretty good here.  There is nothing that puts me off a forum more when people start being rude to others.  There is no need for it.   There have been some great contributors over the years on here that have disappeared for some reason or another.   And I often forget that there is in fact a main site to this forum, I never go to at all. 

I should add that I’m also happy to answer personal queries via DM - and, don’t be shy to ask me anything you like. I’m not easily offended, so fire away; bra-related, boob-related, sex-related, whatever-related - or just life in general.
That may make a great separate thread in the off topic area of the forum.   
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 09, 2022, 02:36:27 AM
Another two point challenge.

One point for the brand.  And one point for the size.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 09, 2022, 07:41:30 AM
Another two point challenge.

One point for the brand.  And one point for the size.

Oooh. Bigger bra. Possibly a 38E?

I don’t recognise the pattern or material, so I’m gonna lose a point for brand.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 09, 2022, 08:04:13 AM
a common way is to put the bra on backwards (hook/eye fasteners at the front, cups pointing downwards at the back) then swivel it around
It is a great technique - make perfect sense once you see it being done

It’s a magic trick only females know 😘
Its how you get your arms out that fascinates me.

The engineering principles behind bras is that the back band should do about 80% of the supporting,
Do they ever use those sticky pads that attach to the skin for some extra support?

When the evening is over though, boy it’s a relief to get the thing off.
Indeed - or an underwired bra I guess?

I don’t know how to do the quote thing properly.

Strapless bras often have an inner lining of a rubber texture - either on the top of the cups or on the band - it sort of sticks to your skin (but not like adhesive). It helps keep the bra tacked to your body.

And yes, underwired bras can get uncomfortable - especially if the size is off slightly. In truth, prolonged wear of a bra throughout the day generally becomes uncomfortable - even in the most well-fitting of bras. They dig in, they mark your skin and they become restrictive. And the bigger your boobs, the more uncomfortable it gets. It’s usually a relief to take off at the end of the day. And sometimes, your boobs could do with a little massage, if they’re not too sensitive, that is.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 10, 2022, 12:47:06 PM
Oooh. Bigger bra. Possibly a 38E?
You're a tad off on this one - 38 band was spot on.  But it is a B cup.

I don’t recognise the pattern or material, so I’m gonna lose a point for brand.
It was a tough question for you to identity the brand from the picture.  I like the quality of this bra - I'd be happy to buy this it I needed to wear one.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 10, 2022, 01:08:20 PM
I don’t know how to do the quote thing properly.
Its a nerdy answer.  Basically I manually edit the code when I do a reply.   The little buttons above the text box when you do a reply give you some functions like quote but I prefer to do it manually. 

This webpage gives some more details BBCode (https://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode) 

In truth, prolonged wear of a bra throughout the day generally becomes uncomfortable - even in the most well-fitting of bras. They dig in, they mark your skin and they
Yeah I've seen that on the under-boobs of women - I can just imagine how sore it gets in that area.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 10, 2022, 01:12:37 PM
Okay -  today's challenge.   Interesting colours - looks more like a bikini top to me - but I don't think it is.

Only a couple of bras left in my collection - I need to take some more pics.  I'm going to have to work out which ones I haven't done yet.

Pic copyright Hiram.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 12, 2022, 07:34:35 AM
Okay -  today's challenge.   Interesting colours - looks more like a bikini top to me - but I don't think it is.

Only a couple of bras left in my collection - I need to take some more pics.  I'm going to have to work out which ones I haven't done yet.

Pic copyright Hiram.

Apologies - I wasn’t able to get logged in (again). Authentication issue (again).

This *looks* like a bikini, but I think it’s a bra. Difficult to tell, as the back band isn’t long (but is bound to stretch) and the cups don’t look massive. Possibly a 32-34E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 14, 2022, 12:32:44 PM
Apologies - I wasn’t able to get logged in (again). Authentication issue (again).
I have a feeling this is a browser issue.  One thing I'd try is to open a browser in incognito mode  CTRL+shift+N if you are using Chrome and try to log on that way.  But a bit of along shot.   What browser are you using?

This *looks* like a bikini, but I think it’s a bra. Difficult to tell, as the back band isn’t long (but is bound to stretch) and the cups don’t look massive. Possibly a 32-34E?
36D - but a tricky one for sure.   Same size as 34E so you were spot on.
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Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 14, 2022, 07:26:12 PM
Apologies - I wasn’t able to get logged in (again). Authentication issue (again).
I have a feeling this is a browser issue.  One thing I'd try is to open a browser in incognito mode  CTRL+shift+N if you are using Chrome and try to log on that way.  But a bit of along shot.   What browser are you using?

This *looks* like a bikini, but I think it’s a bra. Difficult to tell, as the back band isn’t long (but is bound to stretch) and the cups don’t look massive. Possibly a 32-34E?
36D - but a tricky one for sure.   Same size as 34E so you were spot on.
Copyright Hiram

I have to say, if you were a 36D or a 34E, this probably still wouldn’t be a decent fit - partly because these bras are/were manufactured in huge batches with almost no testing or consumer feedback - it’s a vicious circle.

As for browsers - I use chrome in an incognito tab, but the whole authentication issue seems random.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 15, 2022, 06:57:11 AM
I have to say, if you were a 36D or a 34E, this probably still wouldn’t be a decent fit - partly because these bras are/were manufactured in huge batches with almost no testing or consumer feedback - it’s a vicious circle.
Some of the clothing I buy can be quite variable in size - but I don't have to wear anything that has to fit quite as critically as a bra.  And with the crossover of some sizes, buying a bra has to be a bit of trial an error to get it right.
I was going to ask you about Crazy Beach on youtube - not sure if you've come across that channel.  It is in Russian, but you can use the auto translate feature part of closed captioning.  The latest vid 31March is quite interesting.

As for browsers - I use chrome in an incognito tab, but the whole authentication issue seems random.
I normally use Firefox, and so far haven't had any issues with authentication.  I will try Chrome next time I log in and see if I get the same as you.  This website has been problematic for sometime.  I would try another browser if you can. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2022, 03:49:24 PM
I have to say, if you were a 36D or a 34E, this probably still wouldn’t be a decent fit - partly because these bras are/were manufactured in huge batches with almost no testing or consumer feedback - it’s a vicious circle.
Some of the clothing I buy can be quite variable in size - but I don't have to wear anything that has to fit quite as critically as a bra.  And with the crossover of some sizes, buying a bra has to be a bit of trial an error to get it right.
I was going to ask you about Crazy Beach on youtube - not sure if you've come across that channel.  It is in Russian, but you can use the auto translate feature part of closed captioning.  The latest vid 31March is quite interesting.

As for browsers - I use chrome in an incognito tab, but the whole authentication issue seems random.
I normally use Firefox, and so far haven't had any issues with authentication.  I will try Chrome next time I log in and see if I get the same as you.  This website has been problematic for sometime.  I would try another browser if you can.

Yeah. Buying bras often is trial and error - although, establishing your baseline size helps. The biggest issue is the often subtle (or not-so-subtle) variance between brands. I can wear most brands in a 32FF, but often there’s brands that just don’t work for me no matter what size I go for.

Most bra companies (certainly the ones I’ve worked with) have their bras manufactured in China from original templates and test designs - but it’s a constant back-and-forth process of taking delivery of sample runs, getting women of various shapes and sizes to try each bra out at fitting events, and taking detailed notes on the bras, then feeding that back to the production manufacturers for adjustment (and you have to do this across all of the sizes in the range, and each range). And round it goes. It’s time-consuming, laborious and frustrating (not to mention expensive).

That’s an interesting YouTube channel. I love their models. Eastern European (and Russian) bras are weird. I’ve never been able to get any of them to work. There’s a lot of emphasis on side panelling - and “projection” - which doesn’t work for me. I can see the appeal though. I couldn’t get the translation to work - what are they saying?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Charade Recherche on November 15, 2022, 03:58:38 PM
Margaret, do you know what the biggest cup size is available online with a 40 inch band?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
Margaret, do you know what the biggest cup size is available online with a 40 inch band?

Hi Charade,

You can probably order a 40M from a few manufacturers/brands, and possibly some slightly bigger cup sizes. However, it might work better to get your actual measurements and see if there’s bras with oversized cups that would work for you. Am I right in understanding that you
wear prosthetics or “fake” boobs - and you’re looking for bras that will fit your bodyframe and allow for as big a cup as you can get?

If so, DM me and we can do some proper calculations to get your correct band size etc and take it from there. I’d be glad to help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Charade Recherche on November 15, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
Margaret, do you know what the biggest cup size is available online with a 40 inch band?

Hi Charade,

You can probably order a 40M from a few manufacturers/brands, and possibly some slightly bigger cup sizes. However, it might work better to get your actual measurements and see if there’s bras with oversized cups that would work for you. Am I right in understanding that you
wear prosthetics or “fake” boobs - and you’re looking for bras that will fit your bodyframe and allow for as big a cup as you can get?

If so, DM me and we can do some proper calculations to get your correct band size etc and take it from there. I’d be glad to help.

Yup.  So far I’ve found a 40P, unless I order a nursing bra, which I think I’ve seen as an S or T
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2022, 05:26:02 PM
Margaret, do you know what the biggest cup size is available online with a 40 inch band?

Hi Charade,

You can probably order a 40M from a few manufacturers/brands, and possibly some slightly bigger cup sizes. However, it might work better to get your actual measurements and see if there’s bras with oversized cups that would work for you. Am I right in understanding that you
wear prosthetics or “fake” boobs - and you’re looking for bras that will fit your bodyframe and allow for as big a cup as you can get?

If so, DM me and we can do some proper calculations to get your correct band size etc and take it from there. I’d be glad to help.

Yup.  So far I’ve found a 40P, unless I order a nursing bra, which I think I’ve seen as an S or T

Excellent. DM me and we’ll firstly figure out a “normal” bra size for you, and then we’ll get to work on what would be a good band size for you to try + any possible available (very) large cup sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 16, 2022, 03:23:44 AM
I couldn’t get the translation to work - what are they saying?
Turn on closed captions - then in settings > Subtitles/CC > Auto translate > English.

I was just thing about what you said about Russian bras and there design - bra design has changed over the years presumably, 1960's Playtex bras always looked a bit different with the pointy cups - not comfortable?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 16, 2022, 07:51:15 AM
I couldn’t get the translation to work - what are they saying?
Turn on closed captions - then in settings > Subtitles/CC > Auto translate > English.

I was just thing about what you said about Russian bras and there design - bra design has changed over the years presumably, 1960's Playtex bras always looked a bit different with the pointy cups - not comfortable?

Yeah, the history of bra design is fascinating. I had a Playtex bra or two of my own back in the day - they are/were largely functional bras (mostly non-underwired) and generally aimed at the slightly bigger woman. On the whole, bra design has improved significantly in the last 20 years, although the general design has been improved since the late 80s/early 90s. The introduction of underwires, reinforced lining, side panelling etc has all made a huge difference - but the big development was probably Lycra - having stretchy material for the cups makes bras a truly modern garment, instead of a one-size-will-just-have-to-do approach.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 17, 2022, 06:56:20 AM
but the big development was probably Lycra
And on that - sports bras, are they the future?

Back to the challenge - I am curious about some celebs.  I'm not sure if you've covered Kelly Brook, I suspect you have, but I wonder if you could have another estimate of her size, especially in recent years?

One other I'm curious about is Faith Brown.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 17, 2022, 02:21:42 PM
but the big development was probably Lycra
And on that - sports bras, are they the future?

Back to the challenge - I am curious about some celebs.  I'm not sure if you've covered Kelly Brook, I suspect you have, but I wonder if you could have another estimate of her size, especially in recent years?

One other I'm curious about is Faith Brown.

Well, if the internet is to be believed, Kelly Brook is a 34FF - but I’m not so sure. I think she’s possibly put on some weight in recent years (it happens to all of us as we get older) and the boobs have maybe filled out a little with the rest of her. I’d say she’s more like 30HH/J or possibly 32H/HH now.

Faith Brown - gosh, I haven’t heard of her in years. She was never off the tv when I was younger. She must be nearly 80 by now? It’s tough to say, but I’d reckon in the 34J category.

As for Sports bras - I’m not sure they’re the future. They do their job well, but they are torture devices.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 19, 2022, 06:13:53 AM
Just wondering if you can approximate a proper size for this young lady. She is 5'3" tall, I believe.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 19, 2022, 01:39:23 PM
Just wondering if you can approximate a proper size for this young lady. She is 5'3" tall, I believe.  :)

Possibly a 28FF or 30F. Definitely slim in the back with slightly larger cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 19, 2022, 06:14:33 PM
She claims she's a 32K but...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 19, 2022, 09:09:15 PM
She claims she's a 32K but...
Probably looking more like 32FF - maybe 30H. I’m a 32FF, and I’d say my boobs look bigger.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 20, 2022, 12:35:49 AM
She claims she's a 32K but...
Probably looking more like 32FF - maybe 30H. I’m a 32FF, and I’d say my boobs look bigger.
I agree.

I mean, I agree that she's not a 32K, not about how big your boobs are.

OK let me stop while I'm still ahead.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 20, 2022, 10:54:39 AM
Well, if the internet is to be believed, Kelly Brook is a 34FF - but I’m not so sure.
I must admit, I didn't think she would be a 23FF by now.  I'm interested in your current estimate, and here I'm going to show my ignorance of bra sizes.  If she was a 34 band - can she also be a 30 band?  Am I right in thinking the extra cup size adds to the band - or something like that?

Faith Brown - gosh, I haven’t heard of her in years. She was never off the tv when I was younger. She must be nearly 80 by now? It’s tough to say, but I’d reckon in the 34J category.
Yes she must be getting on now - but she was one first woman I remember seeing on TV that had a big bust. I think I've always been curious about her size.

As for Sports bras - I’m not sure they’re the future. They do their job well, but they are torture devices.
Oh no.  How are they uncomfortable? 

Today may I ask about MrsPJHaverstock.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 20, 2022, 12:54:22 PM
Well, if the internet is to be believed, Kelly Brook is a 34FF - but I’m not so sure.
I must admit, I didn't think she would be a 23FF by now.  I'm interested in your current estimate, and here I'm going to show my ignorance of bra sizes.  If she was a 34 band - can she also be a 30 band?  Am I right in thinking the extra cup size adds to the band - or something like that?

Faith Brown - gosh, I haven’t heard of her in years. She was never off the tv when I was younger. She must be nearly 80 by now? It’s tough to say, but I’d reckon in the 34J category.
Yes she must be getting on now - but she was one first woman I remember seeing on TV that had a big bust. I think I've always been curious about her size.

As for Sports bras - I’m not sure they’re the future. They do their job well, but they are torture devices.
Oh no.  How are they uncomfortable? 

Today may I ask about MrsPJHaverstock.

When it comes to band sizes, generally speaking, they have to be reasonably close to your actual back (ie. underbust) size in inches (full around your rib cage, just under where your boobs rest). You can vary this slightly by going up a band size or down a band size - and by going up (or down) a cup size correspondingly. This is called “sister sizing”.

The reason for this is the bands are made to be reasonably close to the back band size (they’re actually slightly shorter - for example, a 32 band size is probably more like 26” of “band”, but it stretches out to 32” - and that 32” is pretty tight and snug on a 32 back). So, if you go down a band size, you would go up a cup size. For example, I’m a 32FF, so I can try a 30G, as the increase of the cup size would compensate for going down a band size. But a 30G is just about the limit for me - it’s really tight and restrictive on me. I couldn’t, say, go to a 28GG. It just wouldn’t have enough back band for me - even though increase in the cups slightly compensates for the reduction. Similarly, if I go up to say a 34F, what I end up with is a bra that’s too loose in the band for me. It really only works when you go up a band (and down a cup) or up a cup and down a band. Once you get into comparing, say a 36K bra with a 28K bra, there’s really no comparison. One is for a broad back with big boobs and one is for a really narrow back with big boobs - but the cup volumes are different (so, the volume of a 28K is going to be slightly smaller than the volume in a 36K). 

Does that make sense?

Let me have a look at your new lady... She’s got a big frame and big, low hanging boobs - I’m thinking she’s in the 36J/JJ category - possibly K. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 22, 2022, 12:23:08 PM
Does that make sense?
Yes it does - and really helpful.  The ability of the band to stretch is something I'd not factored in.

Let me have a look at your new lady... She’s got a big frame and big, low hanging boobs - I’m thinking she’s in the 36J/JJ category - possibly K.
I have another photo which shows her chest at different angle - I think she looks a little smaller here.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 22, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Does that make sense?
Yes it does - and really helpful.  The ability of the band to stretch is something I'd not factored in.

Let me have a look at your new lady... She’s got a big frame and big, low hanging boobs - I’m thinking she’s in the 36J/JJ category - possibly K.
I have another photo which shows her chest at different angle - I think she looks a little smaller here.

That changes things slightly. She is big(ish) in the frame, but her boobs are about the same size as me (32FF), so perhaps she’s more like a 34G or 36GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 25, 2022, 11:38:10 AM
That changes things slightly. She is big(ish) in the frame, but her boobs are about the same size as me (32FF), so perhaps she’s more like a 34G or 36GG.
It is interesting how it is hard to interpret a woman size from one angle.  I should try to give you some multiple pics if I can.

Okay then - same woman 10 years apart - how has she grown?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on November 25, 2022, 11:42:03 AM
That changes things slightly. She is big(ish) in the frame, but her boobs are about the same size as me (32FF), so perhaps she’s more like a 34G or 36GG.
It is interesting how it is hard to interpret a woman size from one angle.  I should try to give you some multiple pics if I can.

Okay then - same woman 10 years apart - how has she grown?

Weight gain? ::)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 25, 2022, 12:02:44 PM
That changes things slightly. She is big(ish) in the frame, but her boobs are about the same size as me (32FF), so perhaps she’s more like a 34G or 36GG.
It is interesting how it is hard to interpret a woman size from one angle.  I should try to give you some multiple pics if I can.

Okay then - same woman 10 years apart - how has she grown?

Weight gain? ::)

I’d say weight gain too.

She looks like she’s gone from something like a 30E or F to a 36G possibly a 38G. but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was wearing a 40 band.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 27, 2022, 11:50:39 AM
She looks like she’s gone from something like a 30E or F to a 36G possibly a 38G. but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was wearing a 40 band.
Merci beaucoup.

So today I thought I'd go for a smaller lady - my guess is A, but maybe B - but what do you think?

Love her flat stomach btw.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 27, 2022, 12:43:37 PM
She looks like she’s gone from something like a 30E or F to a 36G possibly a 38G. but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was wearing a 40 band.
Merci beaucoup.

So today I thought I'd go for a smaller lady - my guess is A, but maybe B - but what do you think?

Love her flat stomach btw.

You’d be surprised. She could easily be a 24E/FF. the days of A and B are pretty much gone now - they’re largely for teens and bigger women who have almost no boobs. Depending on back size, a fit like this is more likely to be in the 24FF, 26E etc.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 28, 2022, 04:31:08 AM
She could easily be a 24E/FF. the days of A and B are pretty much gone now
Wow, I had no idea.  Fascinating stuff Margaret.

they’re largely for teens and bigger women who have almost no boobs.
Out of curiosity - at what size does not wearing a bra matter.  Is there a size where not wearing a bra is feasible, just desirable - or does wearing a bra become essential for normal life when not at home?

Keeping the smaller sizes going - here is today's lady.  I had a size in mind, but after what you've said above - I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 28, 2022, 05:32:47 AM
She looks like she’s gone from something like a 30E or F to a 36G possibly a 38G. but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was wearing a 40 band.
Merci beaucoup.

So today I thought I'd go for a smaller lady - my guess is A, but maybe B - but what do you think?

Love her flat stomach btw.

You’d be surprised. She could easily be a 24E/FF. the days of A and B are pretty much gone now - they’re largely for teens and bigger women who have almost no boobs. Depending on back size, a fit like this is more likely to be in the 24FF, 26E etc.

Reading this surprised the hell out of me and it just goes to show how crazy bra sizes are. No wonder I constantly read how the majority of women are wearing the wrong size bra and are ill fitting. I kinda find the whole thing fascinating and a little bit nuts. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 28, 2022, 07:32:16 AM
Margaret dear, would you mind going to the Nisachon Yoothai thread and give us your expertise about her size, Please?  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 29, 2022, 11:33:22 AM
kinda find the whole thing fascinating and a little bit nuts. ;) ;D
Same here - glad I don't have to wear one though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 30, 2022, 01:31:55 PM
She could easily be a 24E/FF. the days of A and B are pretty much gone now
Wow, I had no idea.  Fascinating stuff Margaret.

they’re largely for teens and bigger women who have almost no boobs.
Out of curiosity - at what size does not wearing a bra matter.  Is there a size where not wearing a bra is feasible, just desirable - or does wearing a bra become essential for normal life when not at home?

Keeping the smaller sizes going - here is today's lady.  I had a size in mind, but after what you've said above - I'm not entirely sure.

Apologies. Authentication issues (again) which lasted almost two days.

I think it’s generally always important to wear a bra, for various reasons (support, comfort, style etc), but also for breast tissue health too - and, self-esteem (wearing a bra is a deep reinforcement of femininity - and it can work wonders for your mental health to feel like a woman). But, admittedly, there’s a size when it becomes almost pointless - I don’t really mean it’s futile, but it can be counter-productive (and expensive). I’d always advise wearing support of some kind, be it a slip or a supportive bralet or vest. And, I still wear bras at home (most women do), it’s just some days it gets to the stage that it’s a massive relief to take it off.

Your new lady - interesting. This could easily be a 28E/F, something along those lines. Difficult to be certain because of the angle, but it’s small band, roomy cups.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 30, 2022, 01:38:06 PM
She looks like she’s gone from something like a 30E or F to a 36G possibly a 38G. but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was wearing a 40 band.
Merci beaucoup.

So today I thought I'd go for a smaller lady - my guess is A, but maybe B - but what do you think?

Love her flat stomach btw.

You’d be surprised. She could easily be a 24E/FF. the days of A and B are pretty much gone now - they’re largely for teens and bigger women who have almost no boobs. Depending on back size, a fit like this is more likely to be in the 24FF, 26E etc.

Reading this surprised the hell out of me and it just goes to show how crazy bra sizes are. No wonder I constantly read how the majority of women are wearing the wrong size bra and are ill fitting. I kinda find the whole thing fascinating and a little bit nuts. ;) ;D

It might help if I explain it like this…

Big boobs, no matter what, need a supportive back band, first and foremost. The back band does the hard work - the cups encase the boobs, and the straps give additional support to the boobs. So there’s that. Then, big boobs also need big cups (which seems obvious). Now, smaller boobs still need support - just not as much as bigger boobs. And they still need a back band - so when you start adding in the cups for smaller boobs (even for what seem like tiny boobs), you still need to factor in a few inches for the back band as well as the cups.

Also, bra sizes (band + cup) is kind of a proportional equation (which doesn’t always make sense, admittedly) - but it’s not always about *volume*, it’s about size, and fit. 

Does that make any kind of sense?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 30, 2022, 01:44:22 PM
kinda find the whole thing fascinating and a little bit nuts. ;) ;D
Same here - glad I don't have to wear one though.

You can wear one if you like. I certainly won’t judge 😘
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 01, 2022, 06:40:43 AM
You can wear one if you like. I certainly won’t judge 😘
Ha ha if I had bigger boobs maybe - I have no boobs at all.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 01, 2022, 06:49:30 AM
Apologies. Authentication issues (again) which lasted almost two days.
I wish I could think of something to try next to fix this - I will have a think. 

You've certainly opened my eyes to sizing ladies with smaller boobs.   
I think it’s generally always important to wear a bra, for various reasons (support, comfort, style etc), but also for breast tissue health too
I always assume wearing a bra helps sagging over time.  Someone at the door - finish this later.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 01, 2022, 07:29:58 AM
kinda find the whole thing fascinating and a little bit nuts. ;) ;D
Same here - glad I don't have to wear one though.

You can wear one if you like. I certainly won’t judge 😘

I can't speak for Hiram but if I wore a bra, I would be arrested for causing massive amounts of disturbances and even cause mental problems for those who witness such a sight.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 01, 2022, 08:18:52 AM
Also, bra sizes (band + cup) is kind of a proportional equation (which doesn’t always make sense, admittedly) - but it’s not always about *volume*, it’s about size, and fit.  Does that make any kind of sense?
I am trying to get my head round the concept. 

That said - I think we need some more pictures help me understand how this all works.

Okay then - here is a picture of four ladies.   So the challenge is - which one is the largest and why did you come to that conclusion?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 01, 2022, 10:37:29 AM
Also, bra sizes (band + cup) is kind of a proportional equation (which doesn’t always make sense, admittedly) - but it’s not always about *volume*, it’s about size, and fit.  Does that make any kind of sense?
I am trying to get my head round the concept. 

That said - I think we need some more pictures help me understand how this all works.

Okay then - here is a picture of four ladies.   So the challenge is - which one is the largest and why did you come to that conclusion?

They’re all of different body frame sizes (therefore different can band sizes), and clearly different cup sizes - but there’s not a huge variance between them. The woman in the middle and the woman at the far right definitely would have bigger cup sizes (middle woman is probably a 26F/E, end woman is probably a 28D or E - but I’d really need to see them try some bras out). In any case, they’re all very slim, and they’re in the range 24-28 and D-F in cups (give or take).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 02, 2022, 09:04:57 AM
In any case, they’re all very slim, and they’re in the range 24-28 and D-F in cups (give or take).
I thought that pic would be a tough one.  They are still way bigger than I'd have guessed. 

So on to today's challenge - I have a couple more pics, albeit of this young lady laying down, which may or may not help.   Actually on that - what is the best position to get a good estimate - I assume standing, but any other pose that could help?   Looking at the pics of women on their backs, you get a sense of the volume of their boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 02, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
In any case, they’re all very slim, and they’re in the range 24-28 and D-F in cups (give or take).
I thought that pic would be a tough one.  They are still way bigger than I'd have guessed. 

So on to today's challenge - I have a couple more pics, albeit of this young lady laying down, which may or may not help.   Actually on that - what is the best position to get a good estimate - I assume standing, but any other pose that could help?   Looking at the pics of women on their backs, you get a sense of the volume of their boobs.

I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady. She looks quite slim in the back, with pretty full-on-bottom boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 03, 2022, 04:54:24 AM
I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady.
I'm always in a 28HH mood!  ha ha.

Here's the same woman but horizontal.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 03, 2022, 05:21:12 PM
I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady.
I'm always in a 28HH mood!  ha ha.

Here's the same woman but horizontal.

Yep. Definitely in the 28HH range.

When doing a proper measurement, you tend to take overbust (tight and snug), underbust (tight and snug), leaning bust and lying bust. The leaning bust (ie. Leaning forward eitg your boobs perpendicular to the floor) is to get a sense of volume and likely projection, and the lying measurement is to get a sense as to whether the boobs sit against the breastplate or if they “splay” out west-east. But in truth, you can get a decent idea of bra size with underbust and overbust alone.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 03, 2022, 08:18:13 PM
I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady.
I'm always in a 28HH mood!  ha ha.

Here's the same woman but horizontal.

Yep. Definitely in the 28HH range.

When doing a proper measurement, you tend to take overbust (tight and snug), underbust (tight and snug), leaning bust and lying bust. The leaning bust (ie. Leaning forward eitg your boobs perpendicular to the floor) is to get a sense of volume and likely projection, and the lying measurement is to get a sense as to whether the boobs sit against the breastplate or if they “splay” out west-east. But in truth, you can get a decent idea of bra size with underbust and overbust alone.

Well, I would/want to measure busty young ladies not because I want to fit them a bra but because a perv .... er .... breast connoisseur like me simply wants to get an opportunity to fondle their breasts.  ;D I'm incorrigible.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 04, 2022, 07:36:48 AM
I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady.
I'm always in a 28HH mood!  ha ha.

Here's the same woman but horizontal.

Yep. Definitely in the 28HH range.

When doing a proper measurement, you tend to take overbust (tight and snug), underbust (tight and snug), leaning bust and lying bust. The leaning bust (ie. Leaning forward eitg your boobs perpendicular to the floor) is to get a sense of volume and likely projection, and the lying measurement is to get a sense as to whether the boobs sit against the breastplate or if they “splay” out west-east. But in truth, you can get a decent idea of bra size with underbust and overbust alone.

Well, I would/want to measure busty young ladies not because I want to fit them a bra but because a perv .... er .... breast connoisseur like me simply wants to get an opportunity to fondle their breasts.  ;D I'm incorrigible.  ;) ;D

Haha. The funny thing is, boobs are boobs. You get used to it. I haven’t done “professional” fitting for some time (I still help friends etc - and the odd time people pass my details on as a contact to give advice), but it’s not something you get “turned on” by. Sure, boobs are nice etc - but when you’re dealing with a fitting, it’s all very practical - and, you have to take into account that the fitee is likely to be nervous and shy - so it’s always about making sure they feel comfortable, that their privacy isn’t being invaded - and that they don’t feel as though they are being grabbed or handled. Usually, any touching etc is all around the periphery (underwires, side panels, back band, cup fringes etc) - and rarely touching their actual boobs. I always encourage the women (and - sometimes, the men being fitted) to be the one positioning and moving their own boobs - so that they get used to it and are much more confident doing it themselves.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 04, 2022, 07:53:12 AM
I’m in a 28H/HH mood for this lady.
I'm always in a 28HH mood!  ha ha.

Here's the same woman but horizontal.

Yep. Definitely in the 28HH range.

When doing a proper measurement, you tend to take overbust (tight and snug), underbust (tight and snug), leaning bust and lying bust. The leaning bust (ie. Leaning forward eitg your boobs perpendicular to the floor) is to get a sense of volume and likely projection, and the lying measurement is to get a sense as to whether the boobs sit against the breastplate or if they “splay” out west-east. But in truth, you can get a decent idea of bra size with underbust and overbust alone.

Well, I would/want to measure busty young ladies not because I want to fit them a bra but because a perv .... er .... breast connoisseur like me simply wants to get an opportunity to fondle their breasts.  ;D I'm incorrigible.  ;) ;D

Haha. The funny thing is, boobs are boobs. You get used to it. I haven’t done “professional” fitting for some time (I still help friends etc - and the odd time people pass my details on as a contact to give advice), but it’s not something you get “turned on” by. Sure, boobs are nice etc - but when you’re dealing with a fitting, it’s all very practical - and, you have to take into account that the fitee is likely to be nervous and shy - so it’s always about making sure they feel comfortable, that their privacy isn’t being invaded - and that they don’t feel as though they are being grabbed or handled. Usually, any touching etc is all around the periphery (underwires, side panels, back band, cup fringes etc) - and rarely touching their actual boobs. I always encourage the women (and - sometimes, the men being fitted) to be the one positioning and moving their own boobs - so that they get used to it and are much more confident doing it themselves.

Yes, very true but then you are not a pervert like me.  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 04, 2022, 10:24:30 AM
but it’s not something you get “turned on” by. Sure, boobs are nice etc - but when you’re dealing with a fitting, it’s all very practical
I was having a similar conversion recently - context is everting.  I'd not get sexually excited doing a bra fitting - maybe later I'd reflect on feeling or seeing such nice boobs, but not at the time.   I have done a trim on a woman's pubic hair (long story) - and I was focused the whole time on doing a good job.  I never though about sex at all.
 
This also reminds me when a relative used to cut my hair when I was a teen - she was a busy lady and I could feel her boobs rubbing the back of my neck.  I never got turned on to it - although it did feel kinda nice.

So today's challenge - I was thinking of getting this, or something similar for a friend.  I wonder what you think of Wolf and Whistle lingerie Margaret?   

https://wolfandwhistle.co.uk/ (https://wolfandwhistle.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 04, 2022, 01:18:19 PM
but it’s not something you get “turned on” by. Sure, boobs are nice etc - but when you’re dealing with a fitting, it’s all very practical
I was having a similar conversion recently - context is everting.  I'd not get sexually excited doing a bra fitting - maybe later I'd reflect on feeling or seeing such nice boobs, but not at the time.   I have done a trim on a woman's pubic hair (long story) - and I was focused the whole time on doing a good job.  I never though about sex at all.
 
This also reminds me when a relative used to cut my hair when I was a teen - she was a busy lady and I could feel her boobs rubbing the back of my neck.  I never got turned on to it - although it did feel kinda nice.

So today's challenge - I was thinking of getting this, or something similar for a friend.  I wonder what you think of Wolf and Whistle lingerie Margaret?   

https://wolfandwhistle.co.uk/ (https://wolfandwhistle.co.uk/)

I’ve heard of them. It’s nice looking stuff. I did a search for my size (32FF) and I have to say it’s not my cup of tea. Lingerie (as a gift from men) tends to fall into two categories; something they’d like to see you wearing, and something that’s generally not comfortable or practical. It’s hard to find a balance and get something nice though. Who is it for, and what size do they normally wear. I can speak from experience here - my husband (in the distant past) often bought me totally impractical stuff from places like Ann Summers - which was usually something overly sexy that was difficult to get into (and out of) and was almost always something I’d never wear day-to-day. It can be fun sometimes to get something like that, but when he figured out what I liked, he started buying me much nicer stuff - usually slightly more practical/comfortable than “bedroom” wear, but definitely something I’d wear either day to day - or, to a night out. And, any woman I know will tell you if they’re wearing nice underwear on a night out, they feel much more sexy than something designed for a porn shoot. Give me some more details about the recipient (and your budget) and I’ll recommend something.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 05, 2022, 05:06:30 AM
Lingerie (as a gift from men) tends to fall into two categories; something they’d like to see you wearing, and something that’s generally not comfortable or practical.
So true.  Although in this case it was something she chose herself.  We'd been talking lingerie and she popped put her phone and said she nearly bought this.

It’s hard to find a balance and get something nice though. Who is it for, and what size do they normally wear.
She may not have thought about the practicality - which is odd as she's bought lingerie before.  Size wise. she is losing weight, so I'd have to double check what her stats are now.  Size is the dilemma - what size to buy.   They are relatively inexpensive items so I may just get something - I'll have to get her to check her size for me (or maybe I should do it).  The last datum I have was 38G for her bra, and 16 for dress size.   

I can speak from experience here - my husband (in the distant past) often bought me totally impractical stuff from places like Ann Summers - which was usually something overly sexy that was difficult to get into (and out of) and was almost always something I’d never wear day-to-day.
This is why we love to get your experience of women's clothing.   I'm much knowledgable after reading your posts.

 
And, any woman I know will tell you if they’re wearing nice underwear on a night out, they feel much more sexy than something designed for a porn shoot.
Yep, she said the same thing - I think her motivation is getting back in to shape and feeling good.  Now she feels like looking good and feeling sexy is the next step.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 05, 2022, 05:10:41 AM
Love this thread, great idea Margaret!

Perhaps it's too big a challenge for one post, but I am really curious what the sizes of the 90s legends really were.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 05, 2022, 05:40:46 AM
^That's from one of Score magazine's Boob Cruises from the early 90's Margaret, in case you are wondering.  :)
 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shara on December 05, 2022, 05:42:47 AM
Even with the best intentions, never let your hubby buy you bras :D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 05, 2022, 12:01:30 PM
You are probably right Shara, although I like to think I am quite helpful, with my head for numbers and the discrepancies in sizes between countries, brands and styles which seem to get worse in the bigger cup sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 05, 2022, 03:30:06 PM
Love this thread, great idea Margaret!

Perhaps it's too big a challenge for one post, but I am really curious what the sizes of the 90s legends really were.

That’s possibly a challenge too far!

Post me pics of them individually (preferably wearing a bra or bikini) and I’ll give it a go.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 05, 2022, 03:55:30 PM
Lingerie (as a gift from men) tends to fall into two categories; something they’d like to see you wearing, and something that’s generally not comfortable or practical.
So true.  Although in this case it was something she chose herself.  We'd been talking lingerie and she popped put her phone and said she nearly bought this.

It’s hard to find a balance and get something nice though. Who is it for, and what size do they normally wear.
She may not have thought about the practicality - which is odd as she's bought lingerie before.  Size wise. she is losing weight, so I'd have to double check what her stats are now.  Size is the dilemma - what size to buy.   They are relatively inexpensive items so I may just get something - I'll have to get her to check her size for me (or maybe I should do it).  The last datum I have was 38G for her bra, and 16 for dress size.   

I can speak from experience here - my husband (in the distant past) often bought me totally impractical stuff from places like Ann Summers - which was usually something overly sexy that was difficult to get into (and out of) and was almost always something I’d never wear day-to-day.
This is why we love to get your experience of women's clothing.   I'm much knowledgable after reading your posts.

 
And, any woman I know will tell you if they’re wearing nice underwear on a night out, they feel much more sexy than something designed for a porn shoot.
Yep, she said the same thing - I think her motivation is getting back in to shape and feeling good.  Now she feels like looking good and feeling sexy is the next step.

Have you thought about Scantilly? Plenty to choose from in 38G:

https://www.curvykate.com/collections/scantilly?refinementList%5Bnamed_tags.SZ%5D%5B0%5D=38G
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 06, 2022, 03:31:50 AM
Is this picture better Margaret?

Scoreland pictures cannot be posted without their logo intact - Salem
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 06, 2022, 05:26:10 AM
Is this picture better Margaret?

It's Maxi Mounds, Kayla Kleevege, Minka, Sareena Lee, Casey James and Plenty Uptopp.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 06, 2022, 11:59:24 AM
Have you thought about Scantilly? Plenty to choose from in 38G
I'm just having a look now - wow some really nice gear.  Not sure now if to buy something or send her the link...  Still got to check the size.

Today I'd thought I'd post a side boob for Margaret to have a look at.  Something about this shot makes me think it'll be good for estimating.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 06, 2022, 06:12:49 PM
Is this picture better Margaret?

Let me have a longer think about this one. They’re all on a (broadly) similar range. The two women on either end seem slightly taller. Maxi (?) seems to have slightly broader shoulders - as does Kayla (?), so I’m thinking they’ll both be in the 34/36 back range. And there’s a lot of volume going on with some of the women - so we’re up in the JJ+ scale (and beyond) with some of them. I think I’ve already done Sarenna - so I’ll check back and see what I had her down as, but it’s almost definitely a small, teeny tiny back size for her (like 28/30).

I’m guessing all of these women are retired now? A few of them (Maxi and Casey) have really, really big implants - those must have taken 3 or 4 surgeries to enlarge to that kind of size?

I know some of them from the forum - but who is the woman on the far right? She’s absolutely beautiful. I’m always taken in by a strawberry blonde. 😘😘

I’ll look closer when I get some spare time - but we’re up in the JJ/KK/L/M for some of them.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 06, 2022, 06:14:25 PM
Have you thought about Scantilly? Plenty to choose from in 38G
I'm just having a look now - wow some really nice gear.  Not sure now if to buy something or send her the link...  Still got to check the size.

Today I'd thought I'd post a side boob for Margaret to have a look at.  Something about this shot makes me think it'll be good for estimating.

Oddly, it’s not that great for estimating - although it’s a nice photo. Looks like a lot of volume and full-on-bottom, so cup-wise, it’s probably J-K, but back size could be 32/34/36. Difficult to be sure. Are there any other photos?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 07, 2022, 05:20:33 AM
Are there any other photos?
I have one that I thought may be the same woman - but taking another look this morning I'm not so sure.   I'll post it anyway.

Goodness - J or K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 07, 2022, 03:11:04 PM
Are there any other photos?
I have one that I thought may be the same woman - but taking another look this morning I'm not so sure.   I'll post it anyway.

Goodness - J or K.

Yes. Likely to be something like 32HH/J. K might be a stretch.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 07, 2022, 03:21:15 PM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far

Please read the rules. Daktari Lorenz pictures are NOT to be posted here - Salem
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 07, 2022, 04:54:00 PM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far

Interesting - I’ve had a look around and her size seems to vary a bit in photos. She’s big (boobs) and also a relatively broad back - but I often see photos of her wearing commercially available bras (often but well-fitting, it has to be said), so she’s inside a range of up to KK, I would say.

Chances are, she’s probably around the 34K/KK or 34/36L range. But, we’re probably talking a custom size - whatever it is.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 07, 2022, 05:07:15 PM
That sounds about right!

Here's a bigger challenge Abbi Secraa, who has always to my knowledge kept her bra size a closely guarded secret.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 08, 2022, 11:27:59 AM
I was thinking about the most useful single photo for Challenge Margaret - and then I thought a mirror selfie. 

I shall take a punt on this one - based on Margaret's previous estimates - I'm thinking 28DD?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 08, 2022, 12:57:50 PM
That sounds about right!

Here's a bigger challenge Abbi Secraa, who has always to my knowledge kept her bra size a closely guarded secret.

Whatever her bra size is, it’s not in the off-the-shelf category; it’s almost definitely a custom size, or modified bras. Based on some other images I’ve seen of her, I’m thinking M+, but back size is hard to determine - possibly 34/36.

Let’s just say she has very, big boobs - and I’d imagine it’s very, very difficult getting well-fitting, suitable support bras.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 08, 2022, 01:03:40 PM
I was thinking about the most useful single photo for Challenge Margaret - and then I thought a mirror selfie. 

I shall take a punt on this one - based on Margaret's previous estimates - I'm thinking 28DD?

Possibly 28E/F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 08, 2022, 02:32:29 PM
That sounds about right!

Here's a bigger challenge Abbi Secraa, who has always to my knowledge kept her bra size a closely guarded secret.

Whatever her bra size is, it’s not in the off-the-shelf category; it’s almost definitely a custom size, or modified bras. Based on some other images I’ve seen of her, I’m thinking M+, but back size is hard to determine - possibly 34/36.

Let’s just say she has very, big boobs - and I’d imagine it’s very, very difficult getting well-fitting, suitable support bras.

Wow that's huge!

Here's another blast from the past, Nicole Peters.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 08, 2022, 03:43:04 PM
That sounds about right!

Here's a bigger challenge Abbi Secraa, who has always to my knowledge kept her bra size a closely guarded secret.

Whatever her bra size is, it’s not in the off-the-shelf category; it’s almost definitely a custom size, or modified bras. Based on some other images I’ve seen of her, I’m thinking M+, but back size is hard to determine - possibly 34/36.

Let’s just say she has very, big boobs - and I’d imagine it’s very, very difficult getting well-fitting, suitable support bras.

Wow that's huge!

Here's another blast from the past, Nicole Peters.

I’d need to see a few more pics, but possibly something like a 32H/HH - but it could be like a 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 08, 2022, 03:53:33 PM
That's sounds about right I think at the time she as quoted as what felt like a massive 32J.

From roughly the same time how about Julia Miles?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 08, 2022, 05:03:33 PM
That's sounds about right I think at the time she as quoted as what felt like a massive 32J.

From roughly the same time how about Julia Miles?

That looks like a 34JJ/36J - broad back, lots of projection, full-on-bottom.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 08, 2022, 05:12:33 PM
That's a bigger cup size than I expected, hopefully I'll get better.🤣

How about Diane Poppos
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 09, 2022, 02:00:36 AM
That's a bigger cup size than I expected, hopefully I'll get better.🤣

How about Diane Poppos

Possibly around 34H/HH. But there’s some photos where she looks bigger than others, so she could be 34J or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 09, 2022, 03:39:29 AM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far
That is because posting ANY photos of that model from that site on this Forum is strictly forbidden.

Additionally, you have broken the 1-1-1-1 Rule by posting multiple photos in the same thread within less than twenty four hours.

PLEASE go back and read The Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules) that you agreed to before joining this Forum because otherwise you're going to get all of us into a heap of trouble.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 09, 2022, 05:52:26 AM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far
That is because posting ANY photos of that model from that site on this Forum is strictly forbidden.

Additionally, you have broken the 1-1-1-1 Rule by posting multiple photos in the same thread within less than twenty four hours.

PLEASE go back and read The Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules) that you agreed to before joining this Forum because otherwise you're going to get all of us into a heap of trouble.


Rules are rules .... :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 09, 2022, 09:03:54 AM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far
That is because posting ANY photos of that model from that site on this Forum is strictly forbidden.

Additionally, you have broken the 1-1-1-1 Rule by posting multiple photos in the same thread within less than twenty four hours.

PLEASE go back and read The Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules) that you agreed to before joining this Forum because otherwise you're going to get all of us into a heap of trouble.


Sorry, how do I remove it?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 09, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
As far as I am aware I don't think you've been asked to fit the legend that is Milena Velba thus far
That is because posting ANY photos of that model from that site on this Forum is strictly forbidden.

Additionally, you have broken the 1-1-1-1 Rule by posting multiple photos in the same thread within less than twenty four hours.

PLEASE go back and read The Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules) that you agreed to before joining this Forum because otherwise you're going to get all of us into a heap of trouble.


Sorry, how do I remove it?

After 24 hours from posting any entry, you can't, the software won't let you, only the moderator can. Now, up on the right hand corner of the posted entry, you will see a blue tab that says Actions. Press on it and it will give you three choices of what to do with your post. Choose what you want to do and then do it.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 10, 2022, 05:14:34 AM
Margaret, does this photo help you estimate what her bust size is?  ??? :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 10, 2022, 06:23:33 AM
Margaret, does this photo help you estimate what her bust size is?  ??? :)

Answered this on her thread:

Looks like she’s roughly a 29” back, but more like 30”.

I previously said: “Given her height and frame, I'd suspect she's in the 30K, 30KK or 30L category. Possibly 32K, as she looks broad.”

I’d be definitely thinking 30L, as her bras tend to look a bit tight on her and her centre gore pushes out slightly - so she’s clearly struggling to get bras in her size. So, a 30L would be about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 10, 2022, 06:38:46 AM
Margaret, does this photo help you estimate what her bust size is?  ??? :)

Answered this on her thread:

Looks like she’s roughly a 29” back, but more like 30”.

I previously said: “Given her height and frame, I'd suspect she's in the 30K, 30KK or 30L category. Possibly 32K, as she looks broad.”

I’d be definitely thinking 30L, as her bras tend to look a bit tight on her and her centre gore pushes out slightly - so she’s clearly struggling to get bras in her size. So, a 30L would be about right.

Sorry, I didn't remember seeing your answer at her thread.  :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 10, 2022, 07:02:04 PM
Margaret, does this photo help you estimate what her bust size is?  ??? :)

Answered this on her thread:

Looks like she’s roughly a 29” back, but more like 30”.

I previously said: “Given her height and frame, I'd suspect she's in the 30K, 30KK or 30L category. Possibly 32K, as she looks broad.”

I’d be definitely thinking 30L, as her bras tend to look a bit tight on her and her centre gore pushes out slightly - so she’s clearly struggling to get bras in her size. So, a 30L would be about right.

Sorry, I didn't remember seeing your answer at her thread.  :P

Keep up Mr Solvegas, or I’ll be asking you to see me after class.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 10, 2022, 08:40:02 PM
Keep up Mr Solvegas, or I’ll be asking you to see me after class.

As a k1d, I went to a Catholic school run by Jesuit priests aka as the Lords of Discipline of the Church, so .... are you gonna whack me with a leather strap also? :o ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 10, 2022, 09:47:21 PM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 11, 2022, 03:51:48 AM
Possibly 28E/F?
I'm still discombobulated how big these ladies actually are.

So today  - this lady below walks into your boutique.  She takes off her top for a bra fitting.   What are your first thoughts? (we've gonna need a bigger boat - Jaws movie ref)

Custom made is the only option I guess.  How do you go about sizing someone who is off the charts?    And how do custom sizes actually work.  I suspect there are more and more ladies needing bigger sizes these days; so I wonder if bra manufacturers will eventually make bigger sizes as standard.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 11, 2022, 04:01:32 AM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?

I think I’ve assessed this lady before - she’s almost definitely in the 28 back category (really slim) and most likely JJ/K cup. But she could easily be 30JJ too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 11, 2022, 04:13:25 AM
Possibly 28E/F?
I'm still discombobulated how big these ladies actually are.

So today  - this lady below walks into your boutique.  She takes off her top for a bra fitting.   What are your first thoughts? (we've gonna need a bigger boat - Jaws movie ref)

Custom made is the only option I guess.  How do you go about sizing someone who is off the charts?    And how do custom sizes actually work.  I suspect there are more and more ladies needing bigger sizes these days; so I wonder if bra manufacturers will eventually make bigger sizes as standard.

She would almost definitely need a custom made bra or a special order from a company that specialises in KK+ bras (notice she has crease marks from a bra of sorts, although it looks like it doesn’t fit properly). Hard to say for sure, but it looks like a 34/36 back - and in excess of M cup. There are some manufacturers who make really big bras - Ewa make big bras, and Rugby and Peller too (but they cost a small fortune) - but I’ve recommended Ella by Ulla Dessous before - their bras go up to a N cup and are hugely popular.

I’ve fitted a woman like this lady before, but we couldn’t get her anything off the shelf - we had to order it in. She was a 44N (really broad back and quite a lot of separation on her boobs - west/east) - and she really loved the bra Ella bra we got her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 11, 2022, 04:19:03 AM
I’ve fitted a woman like this lady before, but we couldn’t get her anything off the shelf - we had to order it in.
I guess it will cost quite a bit more too.   I saw a lady in a local store recently that was not far off the lady in the picture - this made me think about bigger sizes.  Especially when you walk around the women underwear section of any department store (I never do that on my own btw) you never see anything much above DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 11, 2022, 04:24:13 AM
I’ve fitted a woman like this lady before, but we couldn’t get her anything off the shelf - we had to order it in.
I guess it will cost quite a bit more too.   I saw a lady in a local store recently that was not far off the lady in the picture - this made me think about bigger sizes.  Especially when you walk around the women underwear section of any department store (I never do that on my own btw) you never see anything much above DD.

I guess it depends where you go. Lots of department stores will have DD+ bras (M&S do up to K cup bras for example).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 11, 2022, 05:31:59 AM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?

I meant to add - I love photos like this. This is what boobs look like. This is what they do. Not a lot of women with bigger busts can *rest* on their boobs - I don’t have too much trouble with it, although I tend to *rest* on my side.

Rest = go to the land of nod
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 11, 2022, 05:41:03 AM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?

I meant to add - I love photos like this. This is what boobs look like. This is what they do. Not a lot of women with bigger buses can **82** on their boobs - I don’t have too much trouble with it, although I tend to **82** on my side.

Per the crazy censorship software of the forum, the word sle3p is verboten. Stupid, ain't it?  :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 11, 2022, 06:16:26 AM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?

I meant to add - I love photos like this. This is what boobs look like. This is what they do. Not a lot of women with bigger buses can **82** on their boobs - I don’t have too much trouble with it, although I tend to **82** on my side.

Per the crazy censorship software of the forum, the word sle3p is verboten. Stupid, ain't it?  :(

Madness. I’ve edited it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 11, 2022, 05:29:58 PM
Will this view of Anya Zenkova from the back help determine/confirm her bra size, Margaret?

I meant to add - I love photos like this. This is what boobs look like. This is what they do. Not a lot of women with bigger busts can *rest* on their boobs - I don’t have too much trouble with it, although I tend to *rest* on my side.

Rest = go to the land of nod

Yes, because the five-letter word most commonly used for that action, is for some reason verboten by the Forum's software. ;)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 12, 2022, 06:54:48 AM
I must admit the bust size of celebs* tends to fascinate me.  She doesn't look that big here - but I suspect Margaret will tell us she is much bigger than we anticipate.

*The full spelling was blocked for some reason.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 12, 2022, 07:24:18 AM
I must admit the bust size of celebs* tends to fascinate me.  She doesn't look that big here - but I suspect Margaret will tell us she is much bigger than we anticipate.

*The full spelling was blocked for some reason.

Yeah, here in the BEA we have such a warped perspective of women breast sizes that we need Margaret to teach us what they really are.  ::) :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 12, 2022, 10:52:41 AM
I must admit the bust size of celebs* tends to fascinate me.  She doesn't look that big here - but I suspect Margaret will tell us she is much bigger than we anticipate.

*The full spelling was blocked for some reason.

It's one of the censored words on the Forum. (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9998366.0)

Is that Elizabeth Hurley?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 12, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
I must admit the bust size of celebs* tends to fascinate me.  She doesn't look that big here - but I suspect Margaret will tell us she is much bigger than we anticipate.

*The full spelling was blocked for some reason.

Well, she’s not as big as some of the models on here!

I’d reckon she’s possibly something like a 28E, maybe a 28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 13, 2022, 12:28:06 PM
Is that Elizabeth Hurley?
I think so - in her 50's now.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 13, 2022, 12:33:07 PM
Well, she’s not as big as some of the models on here!
True.  I'm not sure it is always about size.  Shape and overall esthetic can often trump the bigger boobs. In my opinion anyway. 

I’d reckon she’s possibly something like a 28E, maybe a 28F.
A lot bigger than I'd have thought - I have a completely different understanding of bras sizes thanks to your expert knowledge.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 13, 2022, 01:05:45 PM
Well, she’s not as big as some of the models on here!
True.  I'm not sure it is always about size.  Shape and overall esthetic can often trump the bigger boobs. In my opinion anyway. 

I’d reckon she’s possibly something like a 28E, maybe a 28F.
A lot bigger than I'd have thought - I have a completely different understanding of bras sizes thanks to your expert knowledge.
You’re welcome!

Just remember: a big cup letter doesn’t necessarily equate to big boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 14, 2022, 03:59:55 AM
I agree with the comment you made the the Xenia Wood thread - she is gorgeous.  But what is her size?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 14, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
I agree with the comment you made the the Xenia Wood thread - she is gorgeous.  But what is her size?
M’goodness - I am insanely in love with this lady. She has the most amazing eyes and smile - and what a beautiful, curvy figure.

I was initially tempted to say something along the lines of 34JJ, but she’s too full in the boobs, so 34KK seems closer. But I don’t know what height she is, so I can’t quite tell if a 34 back would be too small - but she’s probably not a 38 back. I have a friend who has a very similar boob shape and projection, but she’s much smaller in height and wears a 32KK.

We’re possibly looking at 34-36KK - certainly it’s in that area. L cup wouldn’t surprise me though.

Who is she? Is she a lingerie model? There’s a photo of her in a black basque with suspenders kneeling on a bed - and she is utterly divine in it. It looks like a lingerie shoot photo.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 14, 2022, 02:18:32 PM
Apparently she's 5'7"
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 14, 2022, 02:26:57 PM
I agree with the comment you made the the Xenia Wood thread - she is gorgeous.  But what is her size?


M’goodness - I am insanely in love with this lady. She has the most amazing eyes and smile - and what a beautiful, curvy figure.

I was initially tempted to say something along the lines of 34JJ, but she’s too full in the boobs, so 34KK seems closer. But I don’t know what height she is, so I can’t quite tell if a 34 back would be too small - but she’s probably not a 38 back. I have a friend who has a very similar boob shape and projection, but she’s much smaller in height and wears a 32KK.

We’re possibly looking at 34-36KK - certainly it’s in that area. L cup wouldn’t surprise me though.

Who is she? Is she a lingerie model? There’s a photo of her in a black basque with suspenders kneeling on a bed - and she is utterly divine in it. It looks like a lingerie shoot photo.
She certainly is quite fetching! She started as a lingerie/bra model apparently, but has also branched out into topless modeling.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 15, 2022, 03:47:02 AM
Who is she? Is she a lingerie model?
Yes she does do lingerie and underwear modeling.

I don't how accurate this site is:  https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Xenia_Wood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Xenia_Wood)

But it says she is 36J.  But I'd take your estimate first.  And she is Ukrainian - jeez what is is with hot Slavic women.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 15, 2022, 05:38:37 AM
Who is she? Is she a lingerie model?
Yes she does do lingerie and underwear modeling.

I don't how accurate this site is:  https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Xenia_Wood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Xenia_Wood)

But it says she is 36J.  But I'd take your estimate first.  And she is Ukrainian - jeez what is is with hot Slavic women.

I don’t think she’s a 36J. Not big enough in the boobs (36JJ attached). 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 16, 2022, 05:12:22 AM
I don’t think she’s a 36J. Not big enough in the boobs (36JJ attached).
I tend to take these sort of websites with a pinch-of-salt.  But I thought I'd reference is anyway.

So today - this one I think will be quite the challenge due to the pose.   I love how warm the underside of of woman's chest is - if I ever need to warm my hands, this is my go to. :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 16, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
I don’t think she’s a 36J. Not big enough in the boobs (36JJ attached).
I tend to take these sort of websites with a pinch-of-salt.  But I thought I'd reference is anyway.

So today - this one I think will be quite the challenge due to the pose.   I love how warm the underside of of woman's chest is - if I ever need to warm my hands, this is my go to. :)

That’s a difficult one to judge. Possibly 36 back - and big in the cups, possibly GG/H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 17, 2022, 04:32:53 AM
That’s a difficult one to judge. Possibly 36 back - and big in the cups, possibly GG/H.
Yeah I thought it would be a tough one to judge. 

Today:  She has quite a slim figure - so I'd guess 28DD.  What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 17, 2022, 09:18:21 AM
That’s a difficult one to judge. Possibly 36 back - and big in the cups, possibly GG/H.
Yeah I thought it would be a tough one to judge. 

Today:  She has quite a slim figure - so I'd guess 28DD.  What do you reckon?

Looks more like a 26/28F or G to me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 18, 2022, 03:34:56 AM
Looks more like a 26/28F or G to me.
I'm getting better - but I still need more practice.

Today's lady - my estimate is 36G.  Am I far off?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 18, 2022, 07:49:32 AM
Looks more like a 26/28F or G to me.
I'm getting better - but I still need more practice.

Today's lady - my estimate is 36G.  Am I far off?
Is there another photo? I can’t quite tell her back size - 36 seems big, but boobs-wise I think you’re looking at E or F. So, possibly 32F/34E.

Edit - I meant to add, because I have something to compare these women to (my own boobs and shape) it’s an easy starting point to work from. Also, I have lots of friends, and I know all their sizes - and, I’ve seen (and felt) literally hundreds (if not thousands) of boobs over the years, so it makes it relatively instinctive for me to just look at a woman and go “32 back, 34 back, F cup, J cup” etc. The real skill is distilling it down - sometimes you have to look up similar shapes, and make a judgement call. It may not always be right, but it’ll be close.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 19, 2022, 03:50:31 AM
Is there another photo?
Alas I haven't.

I can’t quite tell her back size - 36 seems big, but boobs-wise I think you’re looking at E or F. So, possibly 32F/34E.
Looking at the picture again - I can now see E or F.   Many of the women I know are this sort of size, and this is the view I am familiar with.  I should have done better with this one.

Edit - I meant to add, because I have something to compare these women to (my own boobs and shape) it’s an easy starting point to work from.
That has got to be a help for sure - and you buy bras which has to give you a instinct for sizes.

I’ve seen (and felt) literally hundreds (if not thousands) of boobs over the years
Wow, that sounds fantastic.  I wish I had.  Are there any that standout, ones that you remember doing a fitting for; any that were nice looking or extraordinary?

Okay then:  Today we have a (my estimate) 30G. And what do you make of the marks on here boobs - seems an odd place to have them?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 19, 2022, 10:33:32 AM
Is there another photo?
Alas I haven't.

I can’t quite tell her back size - 36 seems big, but boobs-wise I think you’re looking at E or F. So, possibly 32F/34E.
Looking at the picture again - I can now see E or F.   Many of the women I know are this sort of size, and this is the view I am familiar with.  I should have done better with this one.

Edit - I meant to add, because I have something to compare these women to (my own boobs and shape) it’s an easy starting point to work from.
That has got to be a help for sure - and you buy bras which has to give you a instinct for sizes.

I’ve seen (and felt) literally hundreds (if not thousands) of boobs over the years
Wow, that sounds fantastic.  I wish I had.  Are there any that standout, ones that you remember doing a fitting for; any that were nice looking or extraordinary?

Okay then:  Today we have a (my estimate) 30G. And what do you make of the marks on here boobs - seems an odd place to have them?

I’m tempted to say 32HH (not a million miles from 30G). I’d need to know her height (and, get a sense of her shoulders/back ratio). She’s definitely slim in the back, so a 30 wouldn’t be terrible. But she’s slightly bigger in the cups, I think. But 30G is a decent guess.

As for stand-out bra fits in the past… I guess you have to remember that I’m not approaching it from the perspective of a man. I’m not thinking “oooh, check out these big knockers, I can’t wait to get my hands on them”. I’m approaching it from the perspective of “ok, what size is this lady wearing? What size should she be wearing? How do I make her feel comfortable? How do I give her a confidence boost? How do I get her to accept she’s not a 36D, but is in fact a 30JJ? How do I make her go home comfortable, happy, and confident?”

That said, there’s always cases where you’re slightly taken aback - maybe it’s a really pretty girl with a stunning figure, maybe it’s a woman who has somehow managed to disguise her size for years - or maybe it’s someone that you can’t quite believe what you’re seeing.

There’s two specific cases I can think of. One is my friend (I’ll call her Lady K); a beautiful, smart, whipcrack funny lady with five kids. About 5’4” in height, really slim, and she told me in confidence that she needed treatment for severe pain in her back. It wasn’t until we got her shirt off at a weekend away (in private!) that I saw the size of her boobs - 30KK - which she had miraculously hidden from all of us for years. She was so ashamed of having big boobs - and wearing poorly-fitting bras was part of the cause (she was wearing a 36G bra). So, we sorted that out - and she was happy, for a while. She eventually got reduction surgery - and is something of a transformed lady. I supported her every step of the way, and still do.

The other one is another friend - let’s call her Lady A. Tall, pretty, red hair - slim. But the least confident of the group - and someone who has suffered social skills issues since her earliest days. Massive boobs - but she had been wearing the wrong bras for years. She had been sticking with 34E, but turned out to be a 32J. Her boobs are now the one aspect of her life and body she is super-confident about. She dresses to show them off, and despite a painful shyness that never really goes away, she wins the boys over wherever she goes. She has no partner (the group is pretty much convinced she’s gay - but it’s none of our business), but she is happy knowing she’s in the right bras now.

Apart from that, there’s dozens of stories over the years - some sad, some funny, some weird and disturbing - but almost all of them end with women walking away with their new bra size and a new outlook on life.

Edit: I meant to add… the marks look like a demi-cup/half cup bra. Like, a balconette type bra.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on December 19, 2022, 03:44:37 PM
How about Maseratixxx who is purportedly a 40JJ?

That doesn't sound right to me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 19, 2022, 04:38:34 PM
How about Maseratixxx who is purportedly a 40JJ?

That doesn't sound right to me.

It certainly doesn’t sound right. This is a big woman, with a broad back and exceptionally big boobs. We’re in 36/38LL or M territory. Possibly MM (or whatever is above that in real terms). I’d need to see some other pics, but she’s never a 40JJ - I’ve fitted a 40KK, and the woman had smaller boobs than this lady.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 21, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
I guess you have to remember that I’m not approaching it from the perspective of a man.
Fair point - this is something I often forget when talking to women about other women.  Men are hard-wired to think sex.  Women seem generally more empathetic and less visual in their stimulation. 

I’m not thinking “oooh, check out these big knockers, I can’t wait to get my hands on them”.
In some ways this is a curse for men - I do this all the time - but I wish sometimes I could disable this feature in my head.

Apart from that, there’s dozens of stories over the years
Your two anecdotes where fantastic.  It is interesting for me as a man to hear about women's experiences with their bodies.   I think understanding the opposite is useful for all of our relationships.

Okay then:  Today.  I have a number of pictures of this lady - I don't know why, but I don't think she is very tall.  Here's her Reddit page, but you have to login to view it.  https://www.reddit.com/user/AmyTaylorBaby/

I honestly can't seem to come up with a size for this one - so over to you Margaret?

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 21, 2022, 12:09:35 PM
I guess you have to remember that I’m not approaching it from the perspective of a man.
Fair point - this is something I often forget when talking to women about other women.  Men are hard-wired to think sex.  Women seem generally more empathetic and less visual in their stimulation. 

I’m not thinking “oooh, check out these big knockers, I can’t wait to get my hands on them”.
In some ways this is a curse for men - I do this all the time - but I wish sometimes I could disable this feature in my head.

Apart from that, there’s dozens of stories over the years
Your two anecdotes where fantastic.  It is interesting for me as a man to hear about women's experiences with their bodies.   I think understanding the opposite is useful for all of our relationships.

Okay then:  Today.  I have a number of pictures of this lady - I don't know why, but I don't think she is very tall.  Here's her Reddit page, but you have to login to view it.  https://www.reddit.com/user/AmyTaylorBaby/

I honestly can't seem to come up with a size for this one - so over to you Margaret?

Interesting. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of this young lady, and two things are going on; angle of the photos taken, and, she does that thing of pushing her chest out and arching her back - so you get a BIG projection. There’s some photos that I’d be thinking “28/30HH” and others where I’m thinking “28/30K”.

I think she’s somewhere around there. Anywhere between 28HH-30JJ.

I’d like to see her in a bra to get a sense of how her cups hold her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 22, 2022, 10:01:10 AM
How about one of the most popular models back in the day, Chloe Vevrier?

Interesting lady! (Amazingly beautiful too). It looks like she’s gotten bigger over the years - she must be in her late 40s/early 50s now. She seems to have started off around the 34GG/H category (I found a pic of her wjth Danni Ashe, who I’m pretty sure was a 32FF, like me, in her prime), but as the years have gone on, she’s increased. Probably something like a 34/36 back and up in the J/JJ category now - but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 34KK.

Is she still modelling?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 22, 2022, 11:30:07 AM
How about one of the most popular models back in the day, Chloe Vevrier?

Interesting lady! (Amazingly beautiful too). It looks like she’s gotten bigger over the years - she must be in her late 40s/early 50s now. She seems to have started off around the 34GG/H category (I found a pic of her wjth Danni Ashe, who I’m pretty sure was a 32FF, like me, in her prime), but as the years have gone on, she’s increased. Probably something like a 34/36 back and up in the J/JJ category now - but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 34KK.

Is she still modelling?

She is, but as Big Banana should have realized if he had been paying attention to the Forum's Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules), posting unmorphed photos from her website like the one he did are strictly forbidden here.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 22, 2022, 11:20:21 PM
How about one of the most popular models back in the day, Chloe Vevrier?

Interesting lady! (Amazingly beautiful too). It looks like she’s gotten bigger over the years - she must be in her late 40s/early 50s now. She seems to have started off around the 34GG/H category (I found a pic of her wjth Danni Ashe, who I’m pretty sure was a 32FF, like me, in her prime), but as the years have gone on, she’s increased. Probably something like a 34/36 back and up in the J/JJ category now - but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was something like a 34KK.

Is she still modelling?

She is, but as Big Banana should have realized if he had been paying attention to the Forum's Rules (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=rules), posting unmorphed photos from her website like the one he did are strictly forbidden here.

That post was removed by Big Banana  himself or the moderator.  :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 22, 2022, 11:50:31 PM
Good. We've already lost thousands of posts from literally decades of work by hundreds of us, we don't need to poke the bear any more.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 26, 2022, 11:56:15 PM
Hey, Margaret, have you checked out Pamelia J yet? This video shows her trying out a Curvy Kate bra in an O cup.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmApmwxJlCP/
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 27, 2022, 04:14:27 AM
Hey, Margaret, have you checked out Pamelia J yet? This video shows her trying out a Curvy Kate bra in an O cup.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmApmwxJlCP/


It’s an EU O Cup, but the bra itself is a 38K (UK size). She’s a 16K in Au sizes. Curvy Kate only make bras up to KK.

It’s a nice try - she’s a big girl, but she’s not an ‘O’ cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 28, 2022, 11:11:42 AM
I hope all had a great Christmas.

Today I have this young lady for the challenge.

There is a not-so hidden clue in the picture.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 28, 2022, 12:47:24 PM
I hope all had a great Christmas.

Today I have this young lady for the challenge.

There is a not-so hidden clue in the picture.

Probably something like 38/40GG
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 29, 2022, 06:37:36 AM
Probably something like 38/40GG
Ah okay - the bigger band size always gets me.

Here's another, as I have one.

Is that a good way to hang a bra?  Would a hanger be better.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 29, 2022, 06:53:52 AM
Probably something like 38/40GG
Ah okay - the bigger band size always gets me.

Here's another, as I have one.

Is that a good way to hang a bra?  Would a hanger be better.

Yeah - possibly H cup, but most likely 38/40GG.

In terms of bra storage, I wouldn’t hang a bra (unless it was drying - and even then, I’d clasp the back hooks together and loop it over the line).

Bras are best stored in a drawer, with the cups folded together and the clasps all fastened. The reason for this is to help them keep their shape, but also to prevent the clasps catching on other items and causing rips etc.

Same goes for washing a bra - the best advice is to wash them gently by hand, with warm water and washing powder, but if you have to wash them in a machine, do it on a cool wash - and make sure the bra clasps are fastened together. Better still, get a bra washing bag to put them in before putting them inside the machine (or a BraBaby, if they still exist).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 29, 2022, 07:07:16 AM
Same goes for washing a bra - the best advice is to wash them gently by hand, with warm water and washing powder, but if you have to wash them in a machine, do it on a cool wash - and make sure the bra clasps are fastened together. Better still, get a bra washing bag to put them in before putting them inside the machine (or a BraBaby, if they still exist).

Bras are such great looking, and they hold some of Mother Nature's greatest's gifts to mankind, but by the same token, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with them much. I own no delicate or frilly clothing and clothes wash for me is rather simple procedure. My only clothing that requires care is my business suit and I take that to the cleaners.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 29, 2022, 08:32:09 AM
Same goes for washing a bra - the best advice is to wash them gently by hand, with warm water and washing powder, but if you have to wash them in a machine, do it on a cool wash - and make sure the bra clasps are fastened together. Better still, get a bra washing bag to put them in before putting them inside the machine (or a BraBaby, if they still exist).

Bras are such great looking, and they hold some of Mother Nature's greatest's gifts to mankind, but by the same token, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with them much. I own no delicate or frilly clothing and clothes wash for me is rather simple procedure. My only clothing that requires care is my business suit and I take that to the cleaners.  :)

Bras are very much the most important item in a woman’s wardrobe (possibly a close second is shoes). If you take care of your bras, they’ll take care of you.

Of course, you have to have the correct size, decent brand etc.

But they’re wonderful, powerful garments.

Not a lot of people know this, but there are often 45+ individual components in a bra (I’d love to see one deconstructed), from underwires to straps, lining, elastic, lace, metal loops, plastic, shoulder strap adjusters, thread and material (and the cute little bows in the middle that no longer serve a real purpose).

I can’t think of a more complicated item of clothing.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 30, 2022, 04:59:57 AM
I can’t think of a more complicated item of clothing.
No me either. 

I've seen the wire of underwired bras come out of old bras - is this just when they get old - or is it possible to remove the wire, say for washing.  I guess underwired bras are verboten for a washing machine?

Attached: woman hanging bra incorrectly.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on December 30, 2022, 05:04:28 AM
Bras are best stored in a drawer, with the cups folded together and the clasps all fastened. The reason for this is to help them keep their shape, but also to prevent the clasps catching on other items and causing rips etc.
A little off topic - but storing things is the most efficient way is a useful skill.  I've been rolling my t-shirts instead of folding them flat for sometime now.  Works great.

But I still need to watch that how to fold a fitted sheet again - never get that right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 31, 2022, 05:37:50 AM
I can’t think of a more complicated item of clothing.
No me either. 

I've seen the wire of underwired bras come out of old bras - is this just when they get old - or is it possible to remove the wire, say for washing.  I guess underwired bras are verboten for a washing machine?

Attached: woman hanging bra incorrectly.

The wires can come out - but not intentionally. Usually through wear. They often have a little plastic cap or bulb shape on the ends to stop them tearing the fabric, but it often wears away anyway and they poke through. There used to be a little kit called a Bra Angel that came with everything you need to repair them - but I’m not sure if they’re still sold. An underwire poking through and stabbing you can be pretty sore.

In terms of washing machines - yes, you can put underwires bras in a washing machine (at a cool wash), but I always fasten mine up on the hooks and eyes to stop them catching on other items. Or, I use a net bra bag - which zips up and protects them. Better still, hand washing makes them live longer.

I’ve posted about this before, but I’d wager not many people know why there’s often 3-4 rows of hooks and eyes on the back band of a bra?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: KBTs on December 31, 2022, 01:09:23 PM
...to compensate for band stretch over time?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 31, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
...to compensate for band stretch over time?

Bingo.

But, also…

…because bra bands only come in even sizes (28, 30, 32, 34 etc), so the 2-4 inches that the hooks and eyes usually provide allow for odd-numbered back measurements (27, 29, 31, 33 etc).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 04, 2023, 04:29:11 AM
…because bra bands only come in even sizes (28, 30, 32, 34 etc), so the 2-4 inches that the hooks and eyes usually provide allow for odd-numbered back measurements (27, 29, 31, 33 etc).
I guess they do this to cut cost. 

Denim jeans have always been this way for me.  I'm 32" waist, but sometime 33.  So 32 too tight and 34 too loose. I have to wear a belt, but a flexible way to alter the waist would be useful.  I do have a pair of Levis in 33" that I bought in the US, so maybe you can buy odd sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 04, 2023, 04:32:27 AM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 04, 2023, 08:02:41 AM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

😲
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 04, 2023, 08:29:21 AM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

That looks like something Chelsea Charms would wear in her heyday.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on January 04, 2023, 08:42:31 AM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

Hiram, do you know the size of that bra?  It looks bigger that Charade’s 40 P cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on January 04, 2023, 11:49:10 AM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

...or some really small hands  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 04, 2023, 01:01:12 PM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

Hiram, do you know the size of that bra?  It looks bigger that Charade’s 40 P cup.

It’s definitely big. Hard to say how big though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on January 04, 2023, 04:17:23 PM
I have no words for this one.  But this is a big bra, a very big bra!

Hiram, do you know the size of that bra?  It looks bigger that Charade’s 40 P cup.
It’s definitely big. Hard to say how big though.

It’s Nina Phoenix’ bra: the one she wrapped around a basketball (see her thread).  It’s custom made, but if someone were to manufacture one, it would come out to be a US X-cup according to her dimensions—although, Margaret, you did say that you think it would be more like a UK Q/QQ
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 06, 2023, 07:18:20 AM
Margaret I wonder if you could have a look at the legend that is Danni Ashe.  She has my favourite set of boobs.  I think at her peak she was probably the most downloaded women - but I'm not sure I ever knew her size - or not an accurate one at least.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 06, 2023, 11:55:26 AM
Margaret I wonder if you could have a look at the legend that is Danni Ashe.  She has my favourite set of boobs.  I think at her peak she was probably the most downloaded women - but I'm not sure I ever knew her size - or not an accurate one at least.

32FF. Exact same shape, size and projection as me (well, she was in her day - she maybe isn’t now, but I am). And she is pretty much three years older than I am (although, I wish I looked as good as she did/does!).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 07, 2023, 06:41:20 AM
32FF. Exact same shape, size and projection as me
Wow Margaret.  I always thought she had some of the best tits.  I can only imagine yours are epic too.

And she is pretty much three years older than I am (although, I wish I looked as good as she did/does!).
She is only 54. And 50 is the new 40.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 07, 2023, 10:21:29 AM
32FF. Exact same shape, size and projection as me
Wow Margaret.  I always thought she had some of the best tits.  I can only imagine yours are epic too.

And she is pretty much three years older than I am (although, I wish I looked as good as she did/does!).
She is only 54. And 50 is the new 40.

Epic isn’t a word I’d associate with my boobs - but, they do look (to me, anyway), the same as hers (although, she’s much more trim!). My husband certainly thinks they’re epic, so maybe I’m wrong.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 07, 2023, 09:30:57 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 08, 2023, 04:49:36 AM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 08, 2023, 06:41:13 AM
My husband certainly thinks they’re epic, so maybe I’m wrong.
When you find a woman with great boobs it is like a lottery win for us boob aficionados.  Your husband thinks this. 

I think my mental picture of you is now going to be Danni Ashe. 

The picture attached: doing what boobs do - but how big are they?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 08, 2023, 08:16:01 AM
My husband certainly thinks they’re epic, so maybe I’m wrong.
When you find a woman with great boobs it is like a lottery win for us boob aficionados.  Your husband thinks this. 

I think my mental picture of you is now going to be Danni Ashe. 

The picture attached: doing what boobs do - but how big are they?

Difficult to tell. Boobs when lying down tend to flatten and splay - so they can look huge. She could be an FF cup, or a G - or a DD/E. No idea on back size though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 08, 2023, 10:58:16 AM
Boobs when lying down tend to flatten and splay - so they can look huge.
Luv that about boobs.

The model is: https://www.reddit.com/user/Ambermarieeee/ (https://www.reddit.com/user/Ambermarieeee/)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 08, 2023, 11:03:15 AM
Boobs when lying down tend to flatten and splay - so they can look huge.
Luv that about boobs.

The model is: https://www.reddit.com/user/Ambermarieeee/ (https://www.reddit.com/user/Ambermarieeee/)

She looks short, with a broad back. Possibly 34K?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 08, 2023, 11:08:59 AM
She looks short, with a broad back. Possibly 34K?
Je vous remercie.

Out of curiosity - do you think women are getting bustier.  Anecdotally they seem to be.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 08, 2023, 11:53:18 AM
She looks short, with a broad back. Possibly 34K?
Je vous remercie.

Out of curiosity - do you think women are getting bustier.  Anecdotally they seem to be.

I don’t think they are. I think big-boobed women have always been around. From developing breasts to attract a mate (boobs look like buttocks in the dark) to increases in hormones (the pill) and cosmetic surgery.

Only the labels on their bras have changed. I come from a long line of big boobers (my mum and my sisters all have big boobs) - they not a new thing.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 09, 2023, 06:44:26 AM
(boobs look like buttocks in the dark)
Isn't this one of the theories why (some) men like big boob - substituting them for buttocks.  I can't say that is my experience, not that I know of.  I honestly can't articulate why I like them, I just do.  It is like saying why you like a colour.

I come from a long line of big boobers
I have often wondered that about genetics of boobs.  I guess it is natural selection at work.  Maybe men don't want to mate with smaller busted women as they (subconsciously) see them as less fertile.   For a while now I've suspected sexual selection is hard coded in both sexes.

From my own anecdotal observations -  some people get their genetics from grandparents not necessarily their parents. 

Okay then - back to the challenge: sometimes I look at a pic and think, are they natural or not.  The attached pic is one of those - is she or isn't she?   I'm in two minds - you've seem many more breasts than I have so I'd thought I'd throw this one out there.

Also, love how much the definition of this pic allows you so see the tiny hairs on her chest.

PS, sorry Zook, I know it is a WebP.  I may change it later.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 09, 2023, 12:27:35 PM
(boobs look like buttocks in the dark)
Isn't this one of the theories why (some) men like big boob - substituting them for buttocks.  I can't say that is my experience, not that I know of.  I honestly can't articulate why I like them, I just do.  It is like saying why you like a colour.

I come from a long line of big boobers
I have often wondered that about genetics of boobs.  I guess it is natural selection at work.  Maybe men don't want to mate with smaller busted women as they (subconsciously) see them as less fertile.   For a while now I've suspected sexual selection is hard coded in both sexes.

From my own anecdotal observations -  some people get their genetics from grandparents not necessarily their parents. 

Okay then - back to the challenge: sometimes I look at a pic and think, are they natural or not.  The attached pic is one of those - is she or isn't she?   I'm in two minds - you've seem many more breasts than I have so I'd thought I'd throw this one out there.

Also, love how much the definition of this pic allows you so see the tiny hairs on her chest.

PS, sorry Zook, I know it is a WebP.  I may change it later.
I *think* this lady is natural. But it’s hard to be 100% certain. I’ve fitted bras for many ladies with implants (I have a friend with silicone implants - they’re not huge, she’s a 30DD) and there’s usually a few giveaways;

- scarring in the “underboob” area where implants are inserted (although this can often just be natural “creasing” caused by boobs).

- a small scar near the armpit under the boob, where implants have been inserted.

- a circular cut around the nipples as though a tin can has been opened with a tiny area left over to make a hinge (which is also another area where implants are inserted).

And then, some women just have great projection and a pert look - which can be mistaken for implants.

The real test is to feel them - and, all I can say is the ones I’ve felt are the weirdest of things. You know that they’re boobs, they *look* like boobs and they *move* like boobs (well, some do), but they don’t *feel* like boobs. Well - they don’t feel like *my* boobs - or other women’s boobs whi I know are natural. I can’t quite articulate what it feels like, it’s like a gel pack that’s inside skin, in a body. But don’t get me wrong - they look amazing on a woman who previously had nothing (well, some do - I’ve seen some pretty poorly fitted implants that are crying out for a bra).

The other giveaway is that they look totally out of proportion for the body they’re on (which applies to many of the implanted models I’ve observed over the years here on the BEA).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 10, 2023, 04:43:19 AM
I *think* this lady is natural. But it’s hard to be 100% certain.
Augmentations seem to be getting better, and more sophisticated all the time.  There are a few ladies that you know they have had a boob jobs, but they look so natural you (I) can't (immediately) tell. 

I’ve fitted bras for many ladies with implants (I have a friend with silicone implants - they’re not huge, she’s a 30DD) and there’s usually a few giveaways;
When I first read that they were installing implants via the underarm I was amazed. 

And then, some women just have great projection and a pert look - which can be mistaken for implants.
I wonder if that is just genetics or maybe a stronger pectoral muscle? 

The real test is to feel them
I guess so - I haven't so far felt any non enhanced. But I think I'd know fairly quickly.

all I can say is the ones I’ve felt are the weirdest of things.
The elasticity of boobs is one of their great features - are implants a bit less so?

I can’t quite articulate what it feels like, it’s like a gel pack that’s inside skin, in a body.
Actually a gel pack description is quite helpful.

The other giveaway is that they look totally out of proportion for the body they’re on (which applies to many of the implanted models I’ve observed over the years here on the BEA).
Although, models like Ewa Sonnet kinda looks enhanced due to her small waist and big chest - but I'm pretty sure she isn't. It is when she lays down and her boobs lay flatter you know she real - the fake one seem to stay put. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 10, 2023, 04:46:34 AM
Here's another are they or aren't they.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: d_jnes on January 10, 2023, 09:05:30 AM
What do you think Margaret?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 10, 2023, 12:41:47 PM
Here's another are they or aren't they.

This is a difficult one because she has such a trim, fit body - so it could just as easily be her build and shape due to exercise. Or, they could be fake. It’s definitely not my area of expertise in the way bras, bra fits and boob sizes are.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: d_jnes on January 10, 2023, 01:53:24 PM
Here's another are they or aren't they.

This is a difficult one because she has such a trim, fit body - so it could just as easily be her build and shape due to exercise. Or, they could be fake. It’s definitely not my area of expertise in the way bras, bra fits and boob sizes are.

Victoria Secret measured her as 32DDD. She is 5 feet tall and fairly muscular.  She had breast lift surgery which is included a small implant, but honestly she is a little smaller after the lift than before
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 10, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
What do you think Margaret?

Bra size?

Probably something like 30F. But could be 28G.

Looks like scarring to remove implants or scars from a reduction?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on January 10, 2023, 10:00:48 PM
Here's an oldie but goodie: Pam Brown. Busty model from the 80's and early 90's.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 11, 2023, 03:26:22 AM
Oki doki - I'm posting this pic as - I think think her dimensions may make her tricky to size.  I'm not sure why I think that - maybe it the perkiness of her breasts.

And she has some lovely boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 11, 2023, 01:05:06 PM
Here's an oldie but goodie: Pam Brown. Busty model from the 80's and early 90's.

34J maybe?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 11, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
Oki doki - I'm posting this pic as - I think think her dimensions may make her tricky to size.  I'm not sure why I think that - maybe it the perkiness of her breasts.

And she has some lovely boobs.

28FF possibly.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Demora on January 11, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.

It’s a 80NN from ewa michalak, 34V in US equivalent.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on January 11, 2023, 02:44:14 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.

It’s a 80NN from ewa michalak, 34V in US equivalent.

:o

<loses consciousness>
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on January 11, 2023, 02:52:22 PM
Here's an oldie but goodie: Pam Brown. Busty model from the 80's and early 90's.

34J maybe?
She had a reduction around 20 years ago. But, she was J or K cup and still growing. The back pain got to be too much for her. Pam is still young, only around 60ish or so. I'll need to dig up a pic of her after the reduction.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 11, 2023, 03:30:21 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.

It’s a 80NN from ewa michalak, 34V in US equivalent.

Then it’s prettt close to 34KK/L (uk)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 12, 2023, 03:32:03 AM
28FF possibly.
I think the smaller women fascinate me more than the bigger women if I was honest.

Okay:  this lady walks into your boutique and asks for some advice.   She removes her blouse and shows you her bra. 

What would be your advice?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 12, 2023, 12:49:29 PM
28FF possibly.
I think the smaller women fascinate me more than the bigger women if I was honest.

Okay:  this lady walks into your boutique and asks for some advice.   She removes her blouse and shows you her bra. 

What would be your advice?

She’s not a million miles away from her bra fitting her. The first thing I’d say is that she’s probably wearing the wrong style of bra for her shape. She needs more support in the cups to give her shape. A modern full-cup or balconette/balcony bra would be much better, something double lined like a Curvy Kate Dottie or Victory.

Her straps are working well, but I can’t see the back band - although, it doesn’t look like it’s causing her too much grief. Overall, the cups just seem old-fashioned and lack support.

I reckon she’s probably 32FF/34F - so something in that range would help her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on January 12, 2023, 02:20:14 PM


Bras are very much the most important item in a woman’s wardrobe (possibly a close second is shoes). If you take care of your bras, they’ll take care of you.

Of course, you have to have the correct size, decent brand etc.

But they’re wonderful, powerful garments.

Not a lot of people know this, but there are often 45+ individual components in a bra (I’d love to see one deconstructed), from underwires to straps, lining, elastic, lace, metal loops, plastic, shoulder strap adjusters, thread and material (and the cute little bows in the middle that no longer serve a real purpose).

I can’t think of a more complicated item of clothing.
A sari may "only" be a three-meter-long piece of cloth, but the complete outfit has many other components to it. And there's over one hundred ways to drape a sari.

I also would rank the traditional outfits worn by Japanese geisha and maiko (not the hypersexualized Western knockoffs) as equally as complicated.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on January 12, 2023, 02:40:30 PM
She looks short, with a broad back. Possibly 34K?
Je vous remercie.

Out of curiosity - do you think women are getting bustier.  Anecdotally they seem to be.

It's not an academic journal by any means but I remember there was an article in the Daily Mail where they interviewed three sets of three generations of women (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-494374/Why-ARE-womens-figures-getting-fuller.html) (grandmom, mom, and daughter) where their bra sizes increased with each succeeding generation. Interesting anecdotal (albeit highly-selected-by-the-editors) "evidence" - although Zoe Williams in The Guardian opines that it may be more easily explained by better bras available in a wider, more accurate range of sizes. (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/26/bras-womens-breasts-getting-bigger-larger-cups)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on January 12, 2023, 02:41:20 PM

I don’t think they are. I think big-boobed women have always been around. From developing breasts to attract a mate (boobs look like buttocks in the dark) to increases in hormones (the pill) and cosmetic surgery.

Only the labels on their bras have changed. I come from a long line of big boobers (my mum and my sisters all have big boobs) - they not a new thing.
Reminds me of the titillating quote from the follow-up article (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/record-breakkers-1613985) in the Sunday People that introduced the world to the amazing breasts of Rachel Aldana:

Quote
"...Chloe, Natasha and Leanne all come from families with a history of large bosoms.

Natasha said: 'My mum told me that my grandma's were as big as mine, if not bigger.

My family obviously has big boobs stretching back generations.

But people can't believe they're natural and I often get asked by blokes and even girls if they can have a feel because they think silicone.

I tell them I inherited them from my nan.'

The girls believe they would be perfect guinea-pigs for scientific research.

Leanne said: 'The fact that all three of us have big boobs running in our families seems to suggest that there could be some kind of genetic link.

I think a geneticist should look into it. If eye-colour is hereditary, why not boobs?

Imagine the possibilities if they discovered a boob gene. You might be able to clone breasts!'"
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on January 12, 2023, 02:55:37 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.

It’s a 80NN from ewa michalak, 34V in US equivalent.

Then it’s prettt close to 34KK/L (uk)

Im really confused here.  The accompanying chart only goes up to a UK “K” or US “O”, but correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t KK/L cups be the US equivalent of P/Q?  Isn’t there still R,S,T and U before we get to a US “V”.  So, if one were to continue the UK cup sizes, it should be “NN”—which is what Demora said it was—not KK or L.

Define “close”.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 12, 2023, 03:01:30 PM
Margaret sweetheart, can you give us an approximation for this bra which is obviously being forcefully challenged by Demora Avarice breasts?  :o Demora is a small woman, only 4'11" tall. From the 2023 AVN, copyright by solvegas.  :)

It’s difficult to be sure with just that photo, but I’d be guessing she was possibly a 34 back, and up in the KK or L category. However, I’d want to try her in some other bras (36K might be more comfortable for her). But, given that she’s so short, possibly 34L might be about right.

It’s a 80NN from ewa michalak, 34V in US equivalent.

Then it’s prettt close to 34KK/L (uk)

Im really confused here.  The accompanying chart only goes up to a UK “K” or US “O”, but correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t KK/L cups be the US equivalent of P/Q?  Isn’t there still R,S,T and U before we get to a US “V”.  So, if one were to continue the UK cup sizes, it should be “NN”—which is what Demora said it was—not KK or L.

Define “close”.

Where is this chart from? As far as I know, Ewa bras go up in stepped pairs, like K, KK, L, LL, N, NN etc?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on January 12, 2023, 05:22:30 PM
Ewa is confusing as they use the same order of letters for cups as the UK system but the cups go up every 2cm rather than inch.

So the bigger you get the more Ewa and UK go out of sync.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on January 12, 2023, 06:38:57 PM
Obviously these bra sizes were invented by men! That's why they're so bloody inconsistent and confusing! :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 13, 2023, 04:29:00 AM
Her straps are working well, but I can’t see the back band - although, it doesn’t look like it’s causing her too much grief. Overall, the cups just seem old-fashioned and lack support.
Yes it does look like the bras women often get cheap to wear to the gardening do something.   It would be great to find another picture with her wearing something better.

I reckon she’s probably 32FF/34F - so something in that range would help her.
I have another pic of her just about to put her arm into the straps.  We get a better view of the back band - maybe a tad tight?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on January 15, 2023, 03:30:31 AM
Okay fellas… here goes:

Hi Margaret, long time listener, first time caller... hope this model hasn't been covered already.

This lady is Mmmmiriam Gonzalez, one of my favorite retired models.

She was a Playmate of the Month and they listed her as a 5'4", 34DDD-24-36 and I think about 110 lbs, but that was before she put on just a little weight and had a big growth spurt... this pic is after that, and the lady has curves like a racetrack.

I always wanted to know... what's her size right in that picture?

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 15, 2023, 04:09:35 AM
Okay fellas… here goes:

Hi Margaret, long time listener, first time caller... hope this model hasn't been covered already.

This lady is Mmmmiriam Gonzalez, one of my favorite retired models.

She was a Playmate of the Month and they listed her as a 5'4", 34DDD-24-36 and I think about 110 lbs, but that was before she put on just a little weight and had a big growth spurt... this pic is after that, and the lady has curves like a racetrack.

I always wanted to know... what's her size right in that picture?

This lady looks more like a 32G/GG, but I’d like to see her in a bra to get a better idea.

I’ve scanned around for photos of her, and there’s times she looks no bigger than 32FF, so I suspect she’s either increased in size through Norman gain, or perhaps had surgery?

But goodness, she’s beautiful.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 15, 2023, 04:20:06 AM
Is this a good bra fit Margaret?  Posting as I really think it is a lovely set of underwear if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 15, 2023, 06:38:50 AM
Is this a good bra fit Margaret?  Posting as I really think it is a lovely set of underwear if I'm honest.

It’s a really lovely set. It’s hard to tell because she’s stretching her arms up to take the photo (and I can’t see the back band), but it looks not too bad - apart from her boobs slightly pushing out from the top of the bra - which could be to do with her stretching. Are there any other photos of her?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 15, 2023, 07:18:47 AM
Are there any other photos of her?
I only had the one - but I think this is the same woman.

https://www.popular.pics/reddit/subreddits/posts?r=u_Kitty__Sprinkles

There are a couple of pics on the second page of this list where she is dressed in nice underwear, which is of more interest to me personally.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on January 15, 2023, 05:36:41 PM

This lady is Mmmmiriam Gonzalez, one of my favorite retired models.


This lady looks more like a 32G/GG, but I’d like to see her in a bra to get a better idea.

I’ve scanned around for photos of her, and there’s times she looks no bigger than 32FF, so I suspect she’s either increased in size through Norman gain, or perhaps had surgery?

But goodness, she’s beautiful.

She is mmmmagnificent, isn't she?

She has a bunch of slimmer pics--- still with breasts but slimmer-- from her Playboy days, all stunning.  Then a little later she was all over even more voluptuous in her Pinupfiles days, even more stunning.  The bikini pic I posted is from the Pinupfiles days.  I think she... and all of her fans.... just got lucky where some of that weight ended up because My Gawd she was lovely!

I don't know if I can find one of her from those days in just a bra, but I think I can find one where she is in something.... bra-like?  If I find it I will post it.

Also when you say G/GG.... is that US sizing?

And thanks... she doesn't model any more but she is one of those special ladies I'll never forget.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 16, 2023, 05:35:43 AM
Today's curiosity.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 16, 2023, 11:55:02 AM
Today's curiosity.

I’d have to see her standing up. But anywhere between GG-J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 17, 2023, 04:43:48 AM
I’d have to see her standing up. But anywhere between GG-J.
Okay, thanks that's for that one.

Today I took a couple of video snapshots from a Chloe Vevrier video where she is measuring. 

I think we have 33" band size, and 49" bust.   I'm not sure what she reports to wear - so I'll be interested to see what size she should wear.  If I can find some more measuring vids or pics I will post as I find them quite interesting.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 17, 2023, 12:59:06 PM
I’d have to see her standing up. But anywhere between GG-J.
Okay, thanks that's for that one.

Today I took a couple of video snapshots from a Chloe Vevrier video where she is measuring. 

I think we have 33" band size, and 49" bust.   I'm not sure what she reports to wear - so I'll be interested to see what size she should wear.  If I can find some more measuring vids or pics I will post as I find them quite interesting.

That’s going to come out at about 34K (UK size). Although I’d need some other measurements - and I’d try her out with a few bras first. She could be a 32KK or a 34JJ.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 18, 2023, 05:32:36 AM
That’s going to come out at about 34K (UK size). Although I’d need some other measurements - and I’d try her out with a few bras first. She could be a 32KK or a 34JJ.
It would be interesting to know what she actually wears.  One of my collection is 38JJ but I guess the volume of the cup is different to a 34JJ?

When you say you need some other measurement - I thought band size and over bust where all that was needed. Is that for a basic fit - is there something else that'll help get the size?

For today's challenge I thought I'd go for a Playboy model of yesteryear Julianna Young.  I think she did have a boob job, which I know alters the estimate, but back then (and in her case) they seem more natural.
We share a birthday, but she is older than me. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: BigJake on January 18, 2023, 07:33:40 AM
OK, here I have a new challenge for you, Margaret:

This is "official_ondo_goddess" (her IG handle)
She said she is 167 cm or 5"5
Claims to wear 38N (in UK sizing)

Unfortunately, almost important to find a real bra picture of her :-(
But you will find many more pictures on her IG which may help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 18, 2023, 02:45:28 PM
That’s going to come out at about 34K (UK size). Although I’d need some other measurements - and I’d try her out with a few bras first. She could be a 32KK or a 34JJ.
It would be interesting to know what she actually wears.  One of my collection is 38JJ but I guess the volume of the cup is different to a 34JJ?

When you say you need some other measurement - I thought band size and over bust where all that was needed. Is that for a basic fit - is there something else that'll help get the size?

For today's challenge I thought I'd go for a Playboy model of yesteryear Julianna Young.  I think she did have a boob job, which I know alters the estimate, but back then (and in her case) they seem more natural.
We share a birthday, but she is older than me.

I’m tempted to say she’s a 30G/GG, but she looks really slim in the back, so possibly a 28H.

In terms of measurements etc, I’d also be asking for a leaning bust measurement, and a lying bust measurement - but they’re not essential. Mostly, I’d be doing a visual assessment - and I’d also want to know what bra size the person is currently wearing (and, preferably see how that bra sits on them) before making a judgment. After that, I’d try them out with a few bras in the size range, and styles that might suit their shape.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 19, 2023, 03:26:47 AM
I’d also be asking for a leaning bust measurement, and a lying bust measurement
Ah, that is interesting.  What are you looking for in this - is it an estimate cup volume?  One of of my favourite charts (attached) has a column for volume.   One, (impracticable) way of assessing breast volume is to lower the breast in to a volume of water and measure the displacement with the Archimedes Principle.  I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a easy way of doing this for boobs - especially women who are asymmetrical chests. 
 
I’d also want to know what bra size the person is currently wearing (and, preferably see how that bra sits on them)
That makes sense. Something I'd not thought of.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 19, 2023, 03:32:05 AM
I’m tempted to say she’s a 30G/GG, but she looks really slim in the back, so possibly a 28H.
I think I saw her height somewhere  - ah yeah here it is, it says she is 5' 8".  She is taller than I thought.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 19, 2023, 11:53:26 AM
I’d also be asking for a leaning bust measurement, and a lying bust measurement
Ah, that is interesting.  What are you looking for in this - is it an estimate cup volume?  One of of my favourite charts (attached) has a column for volume.   One, (impracticable) way of assessing breast volume is to lower the breast in to a volume of water and measure the displacement with the Archimedes Principle.  I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a easy way of doing this for boobs - especially women who are asymmetrical chests. 
 
I’d also want to know what bra size the person is currently wearing (and, preferably see how that bra sits on them)
That makes sense. Something I'd not thought of.

I’ve heard of this theory of displacement to measure volume, but I’m not sure how useful it is. All it tells you is how much fluid or matter is in the boobs. It doesn’t tell you anything about the shape, projection, roots or curvature. Also, the shape of breasts is impacted by rib cage etc. It’s more of an art than a science.

It’s far more useful to do a visual assessment - because every woman is different; a woman at 5’6” could be a 28 back and a J cup, but another woman at 5’6” could be a 36 back and a C cup. I have a friend who is 6’1” and has relatively small boobs, and another who is 6’2” and has the biggest boobs of all my friends (KK).

The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 20, 2023, 03:56:10 AM
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0 (https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0)

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 20, 2023, 04:05:18 AM
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0 (https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0)

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?


another who is 6’2” and has the biggest boobs of all my friends (KK).
Almost Amazonian.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 20, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0 (https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0)

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?

It’s a Victoria’s Secret Unlined 3-Piece Full-Cup Bra - which you can’t get any more. There’s a smaller version of it available on their website, but I don’t think they do this one any more. It’s a perfectly good, supportive bra - as long as you get it in the right size. But I’d be more inclined to recommend other brands.

In terms of boob differentiating sizes - almost every woman has diffeeent sizes of boobs, even if it’s only a slight difference. Although, sometimes it’s noticeable. There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with. Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 21, 2023, 04:18:09 AM
There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with.
This probably comes down to cost - I suspect there would be a way of making separate adjustments to each breast, but adding extra fasteners or Velcro is extra work. 

Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.
I'd forgotten about prosthetics, although coming to website like this I should have known better.

You've talked before about the fasteners on the back of a bra - normally 3 hooks.  This bra (attached) has 4.  I can't see how busty the woman is, but on a normal sized woman - would this make the bra more supportive.  Or is it likely to add to discomfort with more material  rubbing the skin?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 22, 2023, 04:34:28 AM
There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with.
This probably comes down to cost - I suspect there would be a way of making separate adjustments to each breast, but adding extra fasteners or Velcro is extra work. 

Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.
I'd forgotten about prosthetics, although coming to website like this I should have known better.

You've talked before about the fasteners on the back of a bra - normally 3 hooks.  This bra (attached) has 4.  I can't see how busty the woman is, but on a normal sized woman - would this make the bra more supportive.  Or is it likely to add to discomfort with more material  rubbing the skin?

Well, it’s a bigger band, so it’s naturally going to need more hooks and eyes, because they distribute evenly across the material - but also, bigger bands need more reinforcement. Remember: the back band does the heavy lifting, so it needs to carry a lot of weight.

This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front). I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band. Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them. I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 22, 2023, 05:40:42 AM
This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front).
I  only have the one pic - I'd have like to have seen the front as well. 

I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band.
I just did a search for longline bra and I think I get the concept.  This is why I like to love your posts - I had no idea there was such a type of bra.

Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them.
I do like lingerie - not sure I'd like to wear it though.  Experiencing it not only online but personally it doesn't look comfortable to wear.  I love the feel of stocking, it is such a lovely material to touch.  I have an older sister, and I distinctly remember the sight of popsocks everywhere when I was at home.  Like mini stockings. Ah, and the smell of nail polish remover...

I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.
Corsets look particularly uncomfortable, almost masochistic.  Suspender belts seem only really good in the bedroom - again, love the look and how they shape a woman's body, but I can see how impractical they'd be in everyday life.  I'd imagine you'd be constantly having to readjust them each time you stretch or bend down.   

Bodyshapers look comfortable - almost like a modern version of the girdle but with better material.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 22, 2023, 10:03:17 AM
This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front).
I  only have the one pic - I'd have like to have seen the front as well. 

I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band.
I just did a search for longline bra and I think I get the concept.  This is why I like to love your posts - I had no idea there was such a type of bra.

Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them.
I do like lingerie - not sure I'd like to wear it though.  Experiencing it not only online but personally it doesn't look comfortable to wear.  I love the feel of stocking, it is such a lovely material to touch.  I have an older sister, and I distinctly remember the sight of popsocks everywhere when I was at home.  Like mini stockings. Ah, and the smell of nail polish remover...

I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.
Corsets look particularly uncomfortable, almost masochistic.  Suspender belts seem only really good in the bedroom - again, love the look and how they shape a woman's body, but I can see how impractical they'd be in everyday life.  I'd imagine you'd be constantly having to readjust them each time you stretch or bend down.   

Bodyshapers look comfortable - almost like a modern version of the girdle but with better material.

I’m not certain it is a longline, but it certainly looks like it might be one - it has all the hallmarks.

I have a Curvy Kate Carmen longline (see: http://brasandbodyimage.com/2015/07/03/loving-longlines-curvy-kates-carmen/#more-3858) - which I’ve had for years, and it’s a terrific bra. The back band is huge on it, which takes some getting used to, depending on your torso shape etc. I also have a few others (CK Gin Fizz and a few Parfait ones) - they’re not “go to” bras, but they work well with certain outfits.

I definitely prefer a bodyshaper - I used to have an amazing one with detachable suspenders, which fit me perfectly - but they’re so hard to find now. I tend to buy clip-on suspenders from eBay now (or I get clip-on suspenders custom-made) - if I’m wearing them with a bodyshaper. I don’t often wear stockings though - they tend to be annoying, and you spend half the night adjusting them.

Wearing lingerie is basically a necessity; you get used to it (weird things happen when you don’t wear any), and “special” lingerie takes even more getting used to (and usually only gets worn for sex, for a short period of time). It’s like wearing shoes though; once you find your rhythm with whatever item it is, you gravitate to your favourites. I tend to prefer a good, supportive and comfortable bra set, tights, a bodyshaper (very occasionally with stockings), longline bras - and, once in a while I’ll wear something in the bedroom that puts a bit of fire into proceedings.

But, I can tell you this: sex in a corset isn’t nearly as fun as it looks in porn videos.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 23, 2023, 11:50:26 AM
I have a Curvy Kate Carmen longline which I’ve had for years, and it’s a terrific bra. The back band is huge on it, which takes some getting used to, depending on your torso shape etc.
Just looking at the photos I can see that.  You'd think a thicker band would give more support - but the distribution of fat and muscle in the back seems to not really allow for it.

they tend to be annoying, and you spend half the night adjusting them.
I have enough trouble with longs socks - I can only imagine what stockings are like.   Actually, my dad used to have leg suspenders for his socks - they were a thing many years ago.

Wearing lingerie is basically a necessity; you get used to it (weird things happen when you don’t wear any)
Yeah I guess we're adaptable as humans, we do get used to things - high heels look amazing and really shape a woman's thigh - but jeez they've got to hurt. 

I'm curious about what weird things can happen if you don't wear any?  I suspect things would get pretty weird for me if I did!   Here's a confession - a friend gave me a French maids dress I think she got at Ann Summers - not sure what size it is - 10 or 12. I tried it on once - ha if fitted me perfectly.  It wasn't comfortable though - can't imagine having sex in it.

lingerie takes even more getting used to (and usually only gets worn for sex, for a short period of time).
Well I'd like to thank you and all the women out there who are happy to wear some lingerie to please men - even of it is for a short time (quite short in my case).  A woman said to me once, why is it she has to buy all this expensive lingerie - when men don't have too.  I thought this was a very good point. Something I'd not thought of.  I'm happy to buy it all now. 

and, once in a while I’ll wear something in the bedroom that puts a bit of fire into proceedings.
I wish all women were like you Margaret.

But, I can tell you this: sex in a corset isn’t nearly as fun as it looks in porn videos.
I kinda wince to think how uncomfortable it is for women.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 23, 2023, 11:51:41 AM
Today's challenge is to identify this bra?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 23, 2023, 01:22:53 PM
Today's challenge is to identify this bra?

I’m afraid I’m not great at this. I know some bras just by look and pattern etc, but some are just hard to identify. It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 24, 2023, 11:32:01 AM
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 24, 2023, 12:23:00 PM
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!

Haha. Yes - you put the panties over the suspenders (try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way). Most women learn this from lingerie catalogues (or websites) - or by accident. It’s one of the reasons I’m not keen on suspender belts. I mean, they’re utterly gorgeous items - I often covet them, and then spend money on them - only to find that I never wear them for longer than about 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 24, 2023, 09:09:59 PM
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!

Haha. Yes - you put the panties over the suspenders (try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way). Most women learn this from lingerie catalogues (or websites) - or by accident. It’s one of the reasons I’m not keen on suspender belts. I mean, they’re utterly gorgeous items - I often covet them, and then spend money on them - only to find that I never wear them for longer than about 40 minutes.

That is one of the huge differences between ladies' suspenders and men suspenders. Women, since they are the pretty sex, wear such pretty lingerie which emphasizes their femininity and are just so much more pleasant to look at than men with their utilitarian underwear which is non descriptive. Women use frilly and pretty clothing while men is just ... meh.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 25, 2023, 01:22:06 AM
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!

Haha. Yes - you put the panties over the suspenders (try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way). Most women learn this from lingerie catalogues (or websites) - or by accident. It’s one of the reasons I’m not keen on suspender belts. I mean, they’re utterly gorgeous items - I often covet them, and then spend money on them - only to find that I never wear them for longer than about 40 minutes.

That is one of the huge differences between ladies' suspenders and men suspenders. Women, since they are the pretty sex, wear such pretty lingerie which emphasizes their femininity and are just so much more pleasant to look at than men with their utilitarian underwear which is non descriptive. Women use frilly and pretty clothing while men is just ... meh.   ;) ;D

Very much so. It’s one of the few advantages of being a woman; nice things to wear. Shoes/boots, skirts/dresses, tops, accessories - and of course, the endless variations of lingerie. It’s not all fun though - it’s often very difficult to find something that fits, is comfortable - and looks good too. And it’s always expensive! Especially bras.
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Post by: Hiram on January 25, 2023, 04:51:45 AM
(try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way).
This lady has it right.

A Curvy Kate Carmen Black according the the file name.  I must have searched for it when you mentioned it in a previous post.  A long line bra?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 25, 2023, 05:00:22 AM
Very much so. It’s one of the few advantages of being a woman; nice things to wear.
Walking round a department store looking for men's clothes - one thing it is often hard to find in the myriad of women's clothes, and the section is sooo small compared to the women's section.


it’s often very difficult to find something that fits, is comfortable - and looks good too. And it’s always expensive! Especially bras.
I must admit - that is something I've never had a problem with - I'm still wearing the same 34 Long jeans I have for years.  But it would be nice to have a better choice of clothes.
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Post by: Hiram on January 25, 2023, 05:02:38 AM
men with their utilitarian underwear which is non descriptive. Women use frilly and pretty clothing while men is just ... meh.
I still don't see any reason why men can't have nice underwear - but you're right, it is mostly horrible.
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Post by: solvegas on January 25, 2023, 06:01:20 AM
men with their utilitarian underwear which is non descriptive. Women use frilly and pretty clothing while men is just ... meh.
I still don't see any reason why men can't have nice underwear - but you're right, it is mostly horrible.

But as Margaret pointed out, it is so much cheaper. ;D One advantage of men's clothing. Also, if you ever take anything to the cleaners because you simply can't throw it into a regular washer and dryer, like a business suit, again men pay a lot less since the beautiful frills and pleats and all sort of stuff women clothing has compared to men, it is much cheaper. I remember years ago some feminists sued a cleaner's business for discrimination due to price inequality, but the cleaners won the suit because they showed how much more time and effort it took to do women's clothing than men and won the suit and the countersuit. Anyways, let's get back to the pretty bras Margaret discusses.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 25, 2023, 12:21:01 PM
(try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way).
This lady has it right.

A Curvy Kate Carmen Black according the the file name.  I must have searched for it when you mentioned it in a previous post.  A long line bra?

That’s the one. I have this set (except I have the larger briefs). I haven’t worn it in a long time - and I certainly haven’t worn the suspenders for a long time either. I have another Curvy Kate suspender set - I’ll root around in my underwear drawer for it. I also have an odd set given to me as a gift where the suspenders are on the briefs (they’re detachable). They were not fun to wear - the only way to go for a pee was to either unhook them or pull the briefs down along with the stockings. Silly idea.

The Carmen longline bra is sensational though. Haven’t worn it in a while - I might dig it out and give it a whirl.

I have soooo many bras - some I haven’t had on in maybe 10+ years. I’ll have to do a clearout at some point…
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 26, 2023, 04:02:42 AM
But as Margaret pointed out, it is so much cheaper.
Yes true.  But nice underwear is for special occasions - look at the underwear and bras women tend to wear everyday it is cheap stuff they get from WallMart*.   Men are happy to pay $100 for a pair of speakers, when you could buy a pair for half that that'll work fine.

I think my point is - it'll be nice to have the option.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 26, 2023, 04:17:08 AM
That’s the one. I have this set (except I have the larger briefs).
I have some briefs like that size 12 from Topshop, they have two little white bows on the left and right front.  They match one of the bras I posted. Actually I'd not noticed this until recently that they were a match.

I also have an odd set given to me as a gift where the suspenders are on the briefs (they’re detachable).
That sounds an interesting design - I don't think I've seen that before.

The Carmen longline bra is sensational though. Haven’t worn it in a while - I might dig it out and give it a whirl.
It does look like it is supportive - although restrictive too.

I have soooo many bras - some I haven’t had on in maybe 10+ years. I’ll have to do a clearout at some point…
All my collection are cast-off.   It not only when they wear out - women seem to go up and down sizes.  Even though some of my bras are in good condition - the owners seem to think they'll not be able to wear them again.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 27, 2023, 06:41:04 AM
Margaret in one of you posts you mentioned "bodyshaper", with suspenders is this the sort of thing?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 27, 2023, 09:21:05 AM
Margaret in one of you posts you mentioned "bodyshaper", with suspenders is this the sort of thing?

No. That’s a basque. A bodyshaper has poppers at the crotch, so it’s all in one.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 28, 2023, 02:36:51 AM
Margaret in one of you posts you mentioned "bodyshaper", with suspenders is this the sort of thing?

A bodyshaper is more like this. The one I have has little loops for attaching suspenders at the front, side and back. But I also have shorter, clip-on suspenders that I got on eBay that you can use with something like this. It’s underwired, like a bra, with contouring for shape. They’re sometimes also called a corselette.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 28, 2023, 04:15:45 AM
A bodyshaper is more like this.
Ah right, got it.  Going to the loo looks tricky?

They’re sometimes also called a corselette.
Just looked them up - I can see why women like these.

The attached bra.  I keep looking at this picture and thinking something is off.  No idea what.  And, it is a cheap or expensive bra - I'm in two minds.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 28, 2023, 06:03:28 AM
A bodyshaper is more like this.
Ah right, got it.  Going to the loo looks tricky?

They’re sometimes also called a corselette.
Just looked them up - I can see why women like these.

The attached bra.  I keep looking at this picture and thinking something is off.  No idea what.  And, it is a cheap or expensive bra - I'm in two minds.

Going to the loo with poppers isn’t so bad - putting them back together can be tricky, but it’s not as bad as dealing with suspenders etc. I love bodyshapers - there’s just a snug, smoothness to them - but they’re not for everyone.

That bra looks like the wrong bra entirely for that woman’s shape. She needs a full cup bra, something more supportive that encases her boobs in the bra. It looks like cheap crap.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 29, 2023, 04:35:21 AM
Going to the loo with poppers isn’t so bad - putting them back together can be tricky,
I have button up jeans - that's tricky enough, but buttons in the perineum area, I'd leave them undone probably.

That bra looks like the wrong bra entirely for that woman’s shape. She needs a full cup bra, something more supportive that encases her boobs in the bra. It looks like cheap crap.
My instincts were right.  I thought it was a cheap bra, I've seen a lot.  Bras are expensive and I think women have the cheap ones for doing the gardening in.  I wonder if they are a false economy though?

Okay, back to Challenge Margaret bra size estimation.   I was watching a TV show last night, I often look up the show on IMBD and get some background.  The main actress is Mimi Rogers, I looked her up - surprisingly she did playboy.  So I wonder if you'd have a go at Mimi for me?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 29, 2023, 04:42:12 AM
Going to the loo with poppers isn’t so bad - putting them back together can be tricky,
I have button up jeans - that's tricky enough, but buttons in the perineum area, I'd leave them undone probably.

That bra looks like the wrong bra entirely for that woman’s shape. She needs a full cup bra, something more supportive that encases her boobs in the bra. It looks like cheap crap.
My instincts were right.  I thought it was a cheap bra, I've seen a lot.  Bras are expensive and I think women have the cheap ones for doing the gardening in.  I wonder if they are a false economy though?

Okay, back to Challenge Margaret bra size estimation.   I was watching a TV show last night, I often look up the show on IMBD and get some background.  The main actress is Mimi Rogers, I looked her up - surprisingly she did playboy.  So I wonder if you'd have a go at Mimi for me?
I think this woman is quite tall, so she’s probably a 32 or 34 back, and possible an E or F cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 29, 2023, 04:58:27 AM
I think this woman is quite tall, so she’s probably a 32 or 34 back, and possible an E or F cup.
Yeah I think she may be.  I have a few episodes to watch so I'll have a look and see how tall she looks.  When I first saw her on screen I thought she was quite flat chested - so  was surprised to find out she has quite a big bust. 

I still find it intruding how big some women are - when I was younger and before I had a girlfriend I used to think DD was massive.  Little did I know...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 30, 2023, 12:47:37 PM
This a lovely bra, no idea what brand - but is the band a tad tight?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 30, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
This a lovely bra, no idea what brand - but is the band a tad tight?

It’s a sort of half-cup trendy style bra - they sometimes fasten at the front. I’ve never found them comfortable. She looks like she could benefit from going up and band and down a cup. But, sometimes women deliberately wear bras like this to over-emphasise their boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 30, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
But, sometimes women deliberately wear bras like this to over-emphasise their boobs.
Haha - shame on them...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 30, 2023, 01:10:56 PM
It’s a sort of half-cup trendy style bra - they sometimes fasten at the front. I’ve never found them comfortable.
It seems like there'd be too much pressure inward and not upwards, if that makes sense.  I do think this looks great - good for the cleavage, but uncomfortable.  Would a woman wear something like this for a low cut evening dress?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 31, 2023, 04:31:58 AM
Have we done Stacey Poole before?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 31, 2023, 04:53:19 AM
Have we done Stacey Poole before?

She’s probably something like 32G or 34FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on January 31, 2023, 05:05:59 AM
She’s probably something like 32G or 34FF.
Gracias.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 01, 2023, 06:45:30 AM
With Malcolm McDowell looking on - what size is this young lady?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 01, 2023, 07:12:07 AM
With Malcolm McDowell looking on - what size is this young lady?

I’m going to say 28GG, but she could be 28H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 01, 2023, 07:14:09 AM
I’m going to say 28GG, but she could be 28H.
Muchas gracias - are boobs like that an easy fit for a lot bras?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 01, 2023, 06:04:38 PM
I’m going to say 28GG, but she could be 28H.
Muchas gracias - are boobs like that an easy fit for a lot bras?

They are now. They didn’t used to be. 28GG and 28H are pretty common sizes now - although, because of the misconceptions about cup sizes (ie. Bigger letter means big boobs), people stupidly think of GG and H as GiGantic and Huge.

Most UK high street stores will have a “DD+” section which caters for smaller band/bigger cup sizes now.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 02, 2023, 05:30:10 AM
They are now. They didn’t used to be. 28GG and 28H are pretty common sizes now
I remember looking in my mum's Great Universal catalogue - perusing the lingerie section, I have no recollection of large sizes, nothing over DD.

although, because of the misconceptions about cup sizes (ie. Bigger letter means big boobs)
It is counterintuitive.  Maybe they should categorise bras by volume - i.e. 23/500 - for 28 band and 500cc cup.

Most UK high street stores will have a “DD+” section which caters for smaller band/bigger cup sizes now.
Do they have much over G on the high st?

The attached picture of Abbi Secraa - she has a very large bust - I just wondered on the bra she is wearing.  Is that a good design for a lady as big?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 02, 2023, 07:14:05 AM
They are now. They didn’t used to be. 28GG and 28H are pretty common sizes now
I remember looking in my mum's Great Universal catalogue - perusing the lingerie section, I have no recollection of large sizes, nothing over DD.

although, because of the misconceptions about cup sizes (ie. Bigger letter means big boobs)
It is counterintuitive.  Maybe they should categorise bras by volume - i.e. 23/500 - for 28 band and 500cc cup.

Most UK high street stores will have a “DD+” section which caters for smaller band/bigger cup sizes now.
Do they have much over G on the high st?

The attached picture of Abbi Secraa - she has a very large bust - I just wondered on the bra she is wearing.  Is that a good design for a lady as big?

Yes. Places like Debenhams do up to H cups and M&S do up to J/K cups. You just have to look.

I have some PDF files somewhere of Freemans catalogues from the 80s. I ordered them years ago for some research I was doing about bra sizing charts. There’s nothing beyond DD anywhere in them.

This woman’s bra is pretty poor for her size. She needs better side-panelling and a broader back band. Plus, the straps aren’t going to properly support boobs that big - it’s a design/style of bra fit for smaller boobs - but not hers. She needs more reinforced double-lined panelling in the cups to encase her boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 02, 2023, 07:22:26 AM
This woman’s bra is pretty poor for her size. She needs better side-panelling and a broader back band. Plus, the straps aren’t going to properly support boobs that big - it’s a design/style of bra fit for smaller boobs - but not hers. She needs more reinforced double-lined panelling in the cups to encase her boobs.

I don't think Abbi cared about the proper fit for that photo, she was going for the sexiness, and she understands that when it comes to boobs, most guys lose about 30 points of IQ and are simply thinking about their lust.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 02, 2023, 12:30:16 PM
Yes. Places like Debenhams do up to H cups and M&S do up to J/K cups. You just have to look.
I only have a look at bras when I'm with a woman - even then I'm conscious of not looking at the really big sizes.  Women can see out of backs of their heads. :)

I have some PDF files somewhere of Freemans catalogues from the 80s. I ordered them years ago for some research I was doing about bra sizing charts. There’s nothing beyond DD anywhere in them.
I used to love those thick paper catalogues that my mum would get.  It would have been the first time I'd ever seen lingerie probably.

This woman’s bra is pretty poor for her size.
The straps are digging in - that is going to get uncomfortable after a short while.  The nearest I get to this feeling is with a heavy backpack on - discomfort in the Trapezius is horrible.  Do women with a large bust get this as well as back problems?   I guess this is where a well fitted bras with tight band come in - so all the weight is taken by the band.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 02, 2023, 12:31:53 PM
I don't think Abbi cared about the proper fit for that photo
Probably not - but you can imagine the bra was made to be worn for longer than a photo shoot.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 03, 2023, 04:42:03 AM
What do you think about this ensemble?
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Post by: Margaret on February 03, 2023, 06:02:27 AM
What do you think about this ensemble?

>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it? When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy. Then you go out, and it’s all a bit fiddly and awkward (because you’re not used to wearing complicated things like that) - and, unless you’re undressing to please someone, you’re kind of keen to get out of it. But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘
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Post by: Hiram on February 03, 2023, 06:41:16 AM
>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it?
I thought so too.  I find this sort of thing much more alluring than nakedness.

When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy.
You've articulated that very well.  I know exactly what you mean - not that as a man I've ever felt sexy; but I did like to look good.   Anecdotes I've heard from women have said that same.  I don't think men can really experience that feeling, at least not the way women can.

But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘
I've said wow a number of times - the mutual appreciation and shared experience is fantastic in that situation.

More of the girl above - no nakedness - just nice lingerie pics -- https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top (https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 03, 2023, 07:10:32 AM
>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it?
I thought so too.  I find this sort of thing much more alluring than nakedness.

When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy.
You've articulated that very well.  I know exactly what you mean - not that as a man I've ever felt sexy; but I did like to look good.   Anecdotes I've heard from women have said that same.  I don't think men can really experience that feeling, at least not the way women can.

But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘
I've said wow a number of times - the mutual appreciation and shared experience is fantastic in that situation.

More of the girl above - no nakedness - just nice lingerie pics -- https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top (https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top)

She’s a pretty lady. OnlyFans really is a huge thing now, isn’t it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 03, 2023, 09:37:40 AM
I thought you’d be interested to see this - both from a social/historical perspective and from an aesthetic point of view. See attached.

This is from a Freemans (UK) catalogue in the mid-80s. I had some of these items (I was a teenager at the time). Look at the size availability; nothing beyond a so-called “DD” cup.

I say “so-called” because this was relying on the +4 sizing method, so you often ended up with a bra that the back band was too tight/too loose on, or you were relying on the shoulder straps to hold your boobs up. I recall my boobs bouncing all over the place in those days.

Still, some of the items are pretty (and, reasonably well-made underwired bras). Gossard still make really terrific bras and other lingerie - I don’t think Kayser exists though (I don’t recall ever buying their stuff). I tended to purchase Gossard, Lovable, Warners, Fantasie and the odd Playtex item (when they started doing “younger” stuff). Sometimes Lejaby, and, of course Marks and Spencer.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 04, 2023, 04:08:40 AM
She’s a pretty lady. OnlyFans really is a huge thing now, isn’t it.
Yeah it is - and people do make some significant sums doing it. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 04, 2023, 04:40:04 AM
I thought you’d be interested to see this - both from a social/historical perspective and from an aesthetic point of view. See attached.
It is interesting to see how things have changed - and to reminisce.  I think it is also interesting to see how the physique of the models have changed. This may be down to fashion though and not necessarily how women were back then.  I do think women and men are broader than they used to be.

This is from a Freemans (UK) catalogue in the mid-80s. I had some of these items (I was a teenager at the time). Look at the size availability; nothing beyond a so-called “DD” cup.
Ah yes Freemans, forgot about them.  That's how I remember it, nothing over DD. 

I say “so-called” because this was relying on the +4 sizing method, so you often ended up with a bra that the back band was too tight/too loose on, or you were relying on the shoulder straps to hold your boobs up. I recall my boobs bouncing all over the place in those days.
An ill-fitting bra, not only uncomfortable, but damaging to the breast tissue I'd expect.  The good thing about the modern world is things are generally better designed, albeit not necessarily better made.   Didn't stockings used to have seams, and now they don't? 

Still, some of the items are pretty (and, reasonably well-made underwired bras). Gossard still make really terrific bras and other lingerie - I don’t think Kayser exists though (I don’t recall ever buying their stuff). I tended to purchase Gossard, Lovable, Warners, Fantasie and the odd Playtex item (when they started doing “younger” stuff). Sometimes Lejaby, and, of course Marks and Spencer.
I'll have to look up some of the brands you mention, I'm only really familair with Gossard and Playtex.  What was the slogan Playtex had, something about crossover?

Edit: I'm sure I know the name of the model too.  I just can't think if it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 04, 2023, 04:51:46 AM
For comparison: Freemans today.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 04, 2023, 06:27:55 AM
For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 04, 2023, 07:29:14 AM
For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

Don't forget that most bras in the 80's and 90's were manufactured in the USA and Europe to fit their women but the Chinese, thanks to slave wages and subsidies by their government were able to take over the market and so many western manufacturers are gone.  :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 04, 2023, 08:45:25 AM
For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

Don't forget that most bras in the 80's and 90's were manufactured in the USA and Europe to fit their women but the Chinese, thanks to slave wages and subsidies by their government were able to take over the market and so many western manufacturers are gone.  :(

True. Almost all bras in the UK/US market are made in China now - although most of the brands are IK/EU/US companies. I know brands like Curvy Kate use Chinese companies for their manufacturing. A tortuous process, from what I understand - but the results are mass-produced, quality garments that can be changed to other designs/specs almost overnight.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 04, 2023, 12:15:38 PM
Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.
I think the only time I have seen Tiffany Towers in a bra that I can remember is in Scene 1 of the porn movie Boobarella (1992).  It always stuck in my mind.  It is one of my favourite scenes.

https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/ (https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/)

I'm not sure it is that helpful to identify the bra she is wearing.

I'm surprised bras are not made in Bangladesh these days - China is too expensive now.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 04, 2023, 01:12:55 PM
Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.
I think the only time I have seen Tiffany Towers in a bra that I can remember is in Scene 1 of the porn movie Boobarella (1992).  It always stuck in my mind.  It is one of my favourite scenes.

https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/ (https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/)

I'm not sure it is that helpful to identify the bra she is wearing.

I'm surprised bras are not made in Bangladesh these days - China is too expensive now.

I’ve seen a few photos of her in a bra. I did an assessment of her on her thread a while back.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 05, 2023, 03:44:38 AM
I’ve seen a few photos of her in a bra. I did an assessment of her on her thread a while back.
Ah I'll have a look back thorough this thread for the post.

So today - you know you talked about corsets and how uncomfortable they are.  Is it difficult to put one on by yourself?   Maybe I've been watching too many period dramas where the lady-in-waiting comes in and laces you up...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 05, 2023, 04:01:18 AM
I’ve seen a few photos of her in a bra. I did an assessment of her on her thread a while back.
Ah I'll have a look back thorough this thread for the post.

So today - you know you talked about corsets and how uncomfortable they are.  Is it difficult to put one on by yourself?   Maybe I've been watching too many period dramas where the lady-in-waiting comes in and laces you up...

This isn’t really a corset - it’s more of a corselette/basque made to look like a corset.

I’ve had two proper corsets in my time that were hugely expensive, and weren’t worth the money. One of them I bought myself, planning to wear it with an expensive dress to a friend’s wedding - but it was so unconfortable that I ended up getting a waist cincher instead. They are hugely uncomfortable and difficult to put on. I tried putting it on myself (with help from a YouTube video, and I mostly managed it), but the thing itself just wasn’t comfortable. My husband bought me the other one - it was nicer, with 8 detachable suspenders, but again, it was difficult to put on. However, I will admit to one thing - sex was pretty decent with it on, I don’t know why - possibly shortness of breath. Anyway, I sold both on eBay years ago.

These things are generally just for the look/titillation - and for sex. Much cheaper (and generally more comfortable) to invest in a basque or a bustier or some other lighter corselette. Although, it’s not easy to find something like that with proper-fitting cups. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 05, 2023, 04:31:12 AM
This isn’t really a corset - it’s more of a corselette/basque made to look like a corset.
Am I right in thinking this one doesn't have boning and that is why it isn't a corset?

I’ve had two proper corsets in my time that were hugely expensive, and weren’t worth the money.
I guess it is quite difficult to get clothing like that these days - although due to the fetish culture they may be in vogue again.

I will admit to one thing - sex was pretty decent with it on, I don’t know why - possibly shortness of breath.
I'm just trying to think about the physiology of that.  Shortness of breath while having sex has only really happened to me once - I had a plump lady on top, and when she leaned forward her weight went on to my chest and; for a spilt second I was struggling to breathe.  I had to tap out!  That may have been more extreme than you experienced.

I'm going to have look this up.  Fascinating - I love anecdotes like that, it just makes you realise what you don't know.  Although, I'd imagine there are risks in restriction breath when you are in effect exercising.

These things are generally just for the look/titillation - and for sex. Much cheaper (and generally more comfortable) to invest in a basque or a bustier or some other lighter corselette. Although, it’s not easy to find something like that with proper-fitting cups.
I must admit, I do prefer a basque on a woman - the corset looks so uncomfortable. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 05, 2023, 04:53:41 AM
This isn’t really a corset - it’s more of a corselette/basque made to look like a corset.
Am I right in thinking this one doesn't have boning and that is why it isn't a corset?

I’ve had two proper corsets in my time that were hugely expensive, and weren’t worth the money.
I guess it is quite difficult to get clothing like that these days - although due to the fetish culture they may be in vogue again.

I will admit to one thing - sex was pretty decent with it on, I don’t know why - possibly shortness of breath.
I'm just trying to think about the physiology of that.  Shortness of breath while having sex has only really happened to me once - I had a plump lady on top, and when she leaned forward her weight went on to my chest and; for a spilt second I was struggling to breathe.  I had to tap out!  That may have been more extreme than you experienced.

I'm going to have look this up.  Fascinating - I love anecdotes like that, it just makes you realise what you don't know.  Although, I'd imagine there are risks in restriction breath when you are in effect exercising.

These things are generally just for the look/titillation - and for sex. Much cheaper (and generally more comfortable) to invest in a basque or a bustier or some other lighter corselette. Although, it’s not easy to find something like that with proper-fitting cups.
I must admit, I do prefer a basque on a woman - the corset looks so uncomfortable.

Yes - corsets are usually made of more robust material and have boning for support/shape. The whole point is to significantly reduce your waist size and provide an hourglass-like figure. But it’s really uncomfortable. Some people swear by them though. I’ve found that Spanx or a waist cincher does the job better. Waist cinchers are quite sexy too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 05, 2023, 11:54:20 AM
Some people swear by them though. I’ve found that Spanx or a waist cincher does the job better. Waist cinchers are quite sexy too.
If only Victorian woman knew about Spanx.  Is that the same material as spandex - like cycle shorts?

Waist clinchers still look a bit restrictive - I wouldn't want to wear one for very long.  Its fascinating what I've learnt here about women's clothes.
I think the narrow waist is very sexy - I'd probably have to refer to Desmond Morris to understand why that is.  I can see why women try to get that look.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 05, 2023, 12:32:21 PM
Some people swear by them though. I’ve found that Spanx or a waist cincher does the job better. Waist cinchers are quite sexy too.
If only Victorian woman knew about Spanx.  Is that the same material as spandex - like cycle shorts?

Waist clinchers still look a bit restrictive - I wouldn't want to wear one for very long.  Its fascinating what I've learnt here about women's clothes.
I think the narrow waist is very sexy - I'd probably have to refer to Desmond Morris to understand why that is.  I can see why women try to get that look.

Yeah - Spanx are like cycle shorts. Designed to hold you in and give you shape.

Waist cinchers aren’t so bad - but, it is yet another underwear garment to wear that’s mostly designed to please a man.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 06, 2023, 04:09:38 AM
Waist cinchers aren’t so bad - but, it is yet another underwear garment to wear that’s mostly designed to please a man.
I wonder if this will ever change - I think it should.  The older I've got the more I am aware if this.  I do like to see women in lingerie - but not just to please me. 

Having said that - if I though it would please a woman I'd dress in with whatever she wanted. (unlikely she'd want me too)

Okay then - getting back to some sizing.  I thought this image of a lady on some steps would be interesting - a back/side and front view.   I'd estimate (I think she may be tall) 32 - or maybe 28, not sure.  So I will plump for 32F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 07, 2023, 03:34:19 AM
I don't think we've done Rhian Sugden.  She's 5' 6" apparently.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 07, 2023, 05:10:16 AM
Waist cinchers aren’t so bad - but, it is yet another underwear garment to wear that’s mostly designed to please a man.
I wonder if this will ever change - I think it should.  The older I've got the more I am aware if this.  I do like to see women in lingerie - but not just to please me. 

Having said that - if I though it would please a woman I'd dress in with whatever she wanted. (unlikely she'd want me too)

Okay then - getting back to some sizing.  I thought this image of a lady on some steps would be interesting - a back/side and front view.   I'd estimate (I think she may be tall) 32 - or maybe 28, not sure.  So I will plump for 32F?

Before I reply, I’m curious as how you arrived at 32F. Show me your working, as the class teacher might say - and I’ll give you my assessment.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 07, 2023, 05:11:47 AM
I don't think we've done Rhian Sugden.  She's 5' 6" apparently.

She’s probably a 28F/FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 07, 2023, 05:12:40 AM
Waist cinchers aren’t so bad - but, it is yet another underwear garment to wear that’s mostly designed to please a man.
I wonder if this will ever change - I think it should.  The older I've got the more I am aware if this.  I do like to see women in lingerie - but not just to please me. 

Having said that - if I though it would please a woman I'd dress in with whatever she wanted. (unlikely she'd want me too)

Okay then - getting back to some sizing.  I thought this image of a lady on some steps would be interesting - a back/side and front view.   I'd estimate (I think she may be tall) 32 - or maybe 28, not sure.  So I will plump for 32F?

Before I reply, I’m curious as to how you arrived at 32F. Show me your working, as the class teacher might say - and I’ll give you my assessment.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 07, 2023, 11:50:59 AM
Before I reply, I’m curious as how you arrived at 32F. Show me your working, as the class teacher might say - and I’ll give you my assessment.
Do I get and extra mark for getting my name right?

If the cup is a hemi-ellipsoid, its volume is given by the formula: where a, b and c are the three semi-axes of the hemi-ellipsoid, and cw, cd and wl are respectively the cup width, the cup depth and the length of the wire. [1]

Ref: 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 07, 2023, 11:52:55 AM
She’s probably a 28F/FF.
Ah I was so close - I was in two minds, 28F or 32F.  I thought she'd maybe 32F as she looked tall. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 08, 2023, 06:56:05 AM
Righty ho then...

I have no idea how to size this lady - way above my skill level.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 10, 2023, 06:12:08 AM
Before I reply, I’m curious as how you arrived at 32F. Show me your working, as the class teacher might say - and I’ll give you my assessment.
Do I get and extra mark for getting my name right?

If the cup is a hemi-ellipsoid, its volume is given by the formula: where a, b and c are the three semi-axes of the hemi-ellipsoid, and cw, cd and wl are respectively the cup width, the cup depth and the length of the wire. [1]

Ref: 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size)

Sorry. Haven’t been able to get logged on for a few days because of the “authentication” issue. Again.

Anyway - I like your working, but I was meaning more what led you to arrive at that size!

I think she’s more a 28E, her boobs are quite small, and so is her frame (despite being tall), so she’s in the low back/low cup range.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 10, 2023, 06:13:09 AM
Righty ho then...

I have no idea how to size this lady - way above my skill level.

I’d have to assess her in person to be sure - but you’d be looking at a 38-42 back (possibly even 44 back) and a cup size in the FF-G range.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 10, 2023, 06:47:53 AM
Anyway - I like your working, but I was meaning more what led you to arrive at that size!

I think she’s more a 28E, her boobs are quite small, and so is her frame (despite being tall), so she’s in the low back/low cup range.
It was a guess.  I have never sized a woman (in reality) or bought a bra, so I really have to just go on intuition.  I also think about my own dimensions, I'm quite slim and my under-bust wouldn't be that far off a 6" tall woman.  So taking that in to consideration; I take a guess on the band size for a woman proportionally shorter than me.

Once I have that, it is just a case of how many more inches I think the bust is. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 10, 2023, 06:50:09 AM
Sorry. Haven’t been able to get logged on for a few days because of the “authentication” issue. Again.
This website can be flaky at times, but I have never had that error.  Do you get anything like that on other sites, or is it just here?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 10, 2023, 06:54:47 AM
What do you think of this colour combination and style of this lingerie?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 10, 2023, 12:10:51 PM
Sorry. Haven’t been able to get logged on for a few days because of the “authentication” issue. Again.
This website can be flaky at times, but I have never had that error.  Do you get anything like that on other sites, or is it just here?

It only happens on this site - and I can sometimes not get logged in for days.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 10, 2023, 12:12:12 PM
What do you think of this colour combination and style of this lingerie?

Yellow and black is a very alluring combination. I like it.

Not especially practical lingerie though - but I’m sure it works well in the bedroom for some people. Where did you spot it?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 11, 2023, 05:00:34 AM
Where did you spot it?
It would have been from Reddit - but can't remember what sub it was in.  I did a Yandex reversed image search but didn't find it.   I did find this.  I wasn't sure about yellow - but it is growing on me.

Edit:  it is here - https://www.reddit.com/r/classysexy/comments/10wqs6y/my_40_y_o_milf_body_do_you_like/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/classysexy/comments/10wqs6y/my_40_y_o_milf_body_do_you_like/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 11, 2023, 10:51:51 AM
Where did you spot it?
It would have been from Reddit - but can't remember what sub it was in.  I did a Yandex reversed image search but didn't find it.   I did find this.  I wasn't sure about yellow - but it is growing on me.

Edit:  it is here - https://www.reddit.com/r/classysexy/comments/10wqs6y/my_40_y_o_milf_body_do_you_like/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/classysexy/comments/10wqs6y/my_40_y_o_milf_body_do_you_like/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)

It’s a nice colour combo, but again, likely to ping off when bending over to take off a stiletto.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 11, 2023, 11:51:53 AM
but again, likely to ping off when bending over to take off a stiletto.
I had to smile over the mental picture I just had.

Maybe its just me - but I help take her shoes off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 12, 2023, 11:30:05 AM
I wonder if you'd size this lady.

My initial thought is 32G. But hard to know how tall she is. And the way he dress is tucked under her boobs may make them look bigger.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 12, 2023, 04:02:39 PM
I wonder if you'd size this lady.

My initial thought is 32G. But hard to know how tall she is. And the way he dress is tucked under her boobs may make them look bigger.

I think much bigger than 32G, possibly 34H or thereabouts. But definitely bigger than G in the cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 13, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
I think much bigger than 32G, possibly 34H or thereabouts. But definitely bigger than G in the cup.
I felt confident with this one too - ah well.  I need to more study.

So here's my homework for today - and my guesstimate is 32, nah scrub that let me up it to 34, but what cup size... humm.  Going on the last one got to be another H surely?   Final answer 34H...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 13, 2023, 01:36:32 PM
I think much bigger than 32G, possibly 34H or thereabouts. But definitely bigger than G in the cup.
I felt confident with this one too - ah well.  I need to more study.

So here my homework for today - and my guesstimate is 32, nah scrub that let me up it to 34, but what cup size... humm.  Going on the last one got to be another H surely?   Final answer 34H...

I’d say that’s a good guess. 32HH or 34H. Quite rounded and full on top, I’d be interested to see other images.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 14, 2023, 03:41:34 AM
I’d say that’s a good guess. 32HH or 34H.
I just looked them up, they are more or less the same cup size even though the band size is different.  Interesting.  It must take a while to orientate yourself with this measurement system.

Okay - today.  A nice monochrome picture.  34D is my initial guess. But I may refine that. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 14, 2023, 06:17:40 AM
I’d say that’s a good guess. 32HH or 34H.
I just looked them up, they are more or less the same cup size even though the band size is different.  Interesting.  It must take a while to orientate yourself with this measurement system.

Okay - today.  A nice monochrome picture.  34D is my initial guess. But I may refine that.

What a gorgeous photo. Who is it?

34D *looks* close, but I’m wondering if her back size might be smaller than 34. Possibly 32DD - although, I’d expect to see a tiny bit more volume if she was a 32DD. But, it’s a decent guess and I’d certainly be trying her with both.

When we do the 34D/32DD or 32HH/34H thing, this is called “sister sizing”. It’s really useful for a number of things - the first being the variance in the size/fit from one bra manufacturer to another. For example, a 32FF in a Freya bra might not be exactly the same as a 32FF in a Curvy Kate bra, so sometimes there’s a slight adjustment in size required.

Also, sometimes when you try on a certain bra, it’s obvious that it doesn’t work for some reason; maybe the band is too loose or too tight, maybe the back band is riding up, or is too low on your back and not siting low/horizontal - maybe the cups are too loose, or your boobs are spilling over the top of the cups. Maybe the centre gore isn’t tacking. Maybe the straps are working too hard on your shoulders. So, sometimes you need to rethink the size and try something slightly different. 

The basic principle is this: if you go up a cup size, go down a band size - and if you go down a cup size, go up a band size.

Every time you do this, you’re effectively meeting approximately the same “size” up or down the chart. The difference is that you lose an inch on the cup or gain an inch (sometimes two) in the band - or vice-versa. It can make all the difference in a bra fit. I can tell you that it works like magic when you have someone wearing a very tight 30G (which they think is their size because their boobs fit in the cups but the back band is really tight and riding up) and you give them a 32FF to try on. The look on their face is priceless - it’s like being introduced to a different person. They feel comfortable and liberated. The same is true in reverse; a really loose 32FF becomes a snug and comfy fit going down to a 30G. It’s one of the great pleasures of bra fitting. Happy boobs make happy women.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 14, 2023, 11:55:43 AM
What a gorgeous photo. Who is it?
I don't know unfortunately.  It is a terrific photo - I may even print it out and pop it in a frame. Maybe in the bathroom - something for guests to look at while they are on the loo!  I wonder if they'll comment on it.

34D *looks* close, but I’m wondering if her back size might be smaller than 34. Possibly 32DD - although, I’d expect to see a tiny bit more volume if she was a 32DD. But, it’s a decent guess and I’d certainly be trying her with both.
I did think 32, but then I wasn't sure so I went for 34.  I seem to be getting better at this.   

When we do the 34D/32DD or 32HH/34H thing, this is called “sister sizing”. It’s really useful for a number of things - the first being the variance in the size/fit from one bra manufacturer to another. For example, a 32FF in a Freya bra might not be exactly the same as a 32FF in a Curvy Kate bra, so sometimes there’s a slight adjustment in size required.
That is really helpful.  It kinda reminds me of a tolerance measurement in engineering.

Also, sometimes when you try on a certain bra, it’s obvious that it doesn’t work for some reason
Are the more expensive brands more consistent.  As the band is elasticated - I wonder how they measure for that at the factory.

The basic principle is this: if you go up a cup size, go down a band size - and if you go down a cup size, go up a band size.
I wiill write this down. It seems the key.

I can tell you that it works like magic when you have someone wearing a very tight 30G (which they think is their size because their boobs fit in the cups but the back band is really tight and riding up) and you give them a 32FF to try on. The look on their face is priceless
I suspect wearing the correct bra after wearing the wrong one for so long would be fantastic. I can empathise. I guess that with women's weight often changing through their lives this will be a constant process.

Happy boobs make happy women.
My three favourite things.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 15, 2023, 12:01:32 PM
I think this one is tricky - for me anyway.  I keep thinking 28G - but honestly, I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 15, 2023, 03:20:54 PM
I think this one is tricky - for me anyway.  I keep thinking 28G - but honestly, I'm not entirely sure.

Yep. 28G/GG would be about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 16, 2023, 03:17:24 AM
Yep. 28G/GG would be about right.
I can't wait for the summer so I can go round the supermarket giving advice to women on their bra size. ha   Okay - maybe not a great plan.

I think today due to the passing of this movie icon - I will have a guess of her size in this pic.  28DD?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 16, 2023, 08:44:13 AM
Yep. 28G/GG would be about right.
I can't wait for the summer so I can go round the supermarket giving advice to women on their bra size. ha   Okay - maybe not a great plan.

I think today due to the passing of this movie icon - I will have a guess of her size in this pic.  28DD?
You’d be surprised. Possibly more like a 28FF or G.

28DD tends to be really small in the cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 16, 2023, 11:55:36 AM
28DD tends to be really small in the cups.
I'm still thinking in terms of when DD was large.  I wonder now whether a lot of women were bigger than DD back in the 70's 80's - but DD was a convenient description of big boobs in publications - but the actresses/models were a lot bigger.

I feel so much more enlightened.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 16, 2023, 03:34:15 PM
28DD tends to be really small in the cups.
I'm still thinking in terms of when DD was large.  I wonder now whether a lot of women were bigger than DD back in the 70's 80's - but DD was a convenient description of big boobs in publications - but the actresses/models were a lot bigger.

I feel so much more enlightened.

Indeed. Even a 36D isn’t big in the cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 17, 2023, 04:20:31 AM
One of my favourite rooms in the house (it has food in it) add a beautiful women and a hot coffee.
28C?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 18, 2023, 04:46:12 AM
One of my favourite rooms in the house (it has food in it) add a beautiful women and a hot coffee.
28C?

Definitely in the 28C/D category. Possibly even 26.

Petite, slim - and very beautiful.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 18, 2023, 12:25:42 PM
What a lovely material - are bras like this these common?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 18, 2023, 01:31:34 PM
What a lovely material - are bras like this these common?

You get all sorts of bras - this is very much in the Victoria’s Secret type of bra. It looks sturdy enough, but they’ll only be made in certain sizes (or up to a certain size). Where did the image come from?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 19, 2023, 04:26:52 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 19, 2023, 06:13:33 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
Goodness - you're right, every angle here.  Ah, but what is her size...

My first thoughts are 28JJ - but I will look a bit longer and maybe I may refine that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 19, 2023, 06:15:31 AM
You get all sorts of bras - this is very much in the Victoria’s Secret type of bra. It looks sturdy enough, but they’ll only be made in certain sizes (or up to a certain size). Where did the image come from?
This pic from Reddit somewhere.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 19, 2023, 06:46:55 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
When I first read that - it read as it was one from you personally - I did a double take!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 19, 2023, 06:50:26 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
When I first read that - it read as it was one from you personally - I did a double take!

Ha. I do have this bra - but I’m not quite as big as this!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 19, 2023, 06:50:58 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
When I first read that - it read as it was one from you personally - I did a double take!

So did I!  :o
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 19, 2023, 07:33:47 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
When I first read that - it read as it was one from you personally - I did a double take!

So did I!  :o

Maybe one day - if you’re all good boys. 😗
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 19, 2023, 07:58:03 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.
When I first read that - it read as it was one from you personally - I did a double take!

So did I!  :o

Maybe one day - if you’re all good boys. 😗

Guess that means never.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 19, 2023, 10:23:34 AM
Okay then - here's a couple of beautiful young ladies.  The lady on the left with the beverage - have we found an A cup bra size? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 19, 2023, 10:27:03 AM
Ha. I do have this bra - but I’m not quite as big as this!
It looks like a nice bra - what brand is it?  Bravissimo maybe?

And how'd I do on the estimate?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on February 19, 2023, 11:59:49 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.

Hopefully I am not too late to play.

I'd guess ~28J

It looks like a Curvy Kate bra and I think the go up to a K cup?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 20, 2023, 05:48:50 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.

Hopefully I am not too late to play.

I'd guess ~28J

It looks like a Curvy Kate bra and I think the go up to a K cup?

It’s a 32K Curvy Kate Portia. I’d say it’s a reasonably good fit on the woman modelling it. The centre gore is snug, the boobs are encased in the  cups with no overspill or side boob (although you’ll notice her boobs are being slightly pulled west-east - you can tell by where her nipples are positioned in the cups, but this is more to do with how her boobs are “set” - which varies from person to person), the straps don’t seem to be straining, and the back band is nice and horizontal/low. Overall - it looks snug and reasonably comfortable (although might be a tiny bit tight - which will be due to her cup size).

It’s difficult to give a proper size assessment without knowing more about her weight/height, but you can usually get close by judging the projection/volume of her boobs - even if I didn’t already know her size, I’d be thinking she was a relatively low back band (28-32, but most likely 30-32) and a big cup size (J-K/KK). So, if she came to see me and was wearing this bra, I’d be making a guess in the 30-32 range and J-K cup.

But it’s not an exact science.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 20, 2023, 05:49:33 AM
Okay then - here's a couple of beautiful young ladies.  The lady on the left with the beverage - have we found an A cup bra size?

Both definitely on the low size. 24-26 and likely A-C cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 20, 2023, 12:26:48 PM
(although you’ll notice her boobs are being slightly pulled west-east
I hadn't seen that at first - but I can see what you mean now.

It’s difficult to give a proper size assessment without knowing more about her weight/height, but you can usually get close by judging the projection/volume of her boobs
It is probably easier with a live person and not a picture too.  But with your experience you can judge better than most I suspect.

So, if she came to see me and was wearing this bra, I’d be making a guess in the 30-32 range and J-K cup.
If she came to see me wearing that - I'd be 1. amazed. 2. very happy.

But it’s not an exact science.
Like economics.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 20, 2023, 12:31:18 PM
This is interesting - I like the lace at the bottom and the drawstrings.   It seems like a cross between a bra and a Basque.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Big Banana on February 20, 2023, 02:17:08 PM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.

Hopefully I am not too late to play.

I'd guess ~28J

It looks like a Curvy Kate bra and I think the go up to a K cup?

It’s a 32K Curvy Kate Portia. I’d say it’s a reasonably good fit on the woman modelling it. The centre gore is snug, the boobs are encased in the  cups with no overspill or side boob (although you’ll notice her boobs are being slightly pulled west-east - you can tell by where her nipples are positioned in the cups, but this is more to do with how her boobs are “set” - which varies from person to person), the straps don’t seem to be straining, and the back band is nice and horizontal/low. Overall - it looks snug and reasonably comfortable (although might be a tiny bit tight - which will be due to her cup size).

It’s difficult to give a proper size assessment without knowing more about her weight/height, but you can usually get close by judging the projection/volume of her boobs - even if I didn’t already know her size, I’d be thinking she was a relatively low back band (28-32, but most likely 30-32) and a big cup size (J-K/KK). So, if she came to see me and was wearing this bra, I’d be making a guess in the 30-32 range and J-K cup.

But it’s not an exact science.

I am quite chuffed that I was in the right ball park 😁

Have you got another one?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 23, 2023, 06:51:38 AM
This is interesting - I like the lace at the bottom and the drawstrings.   It seems like a cross between a bra and a Basque.

Not the most practical of bras, if I’m honest. Nice to look at though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 23, 2023, 08:16:14 AM
Here’s one from me for you to try. And I’ve even given you all the possible views.

Hopefully I am not too late to play.

I'd guess ~28J

It looks like a Curvy Kate bra and I think the go up to a K cup?

It’s a 32K Curvy Kate Portia. I’d say it’s a reasonably good fit on the woman modelling it. The centre gore is snug, the boobs are encased in the  cups with no overspill or side boob (although you’ll notice her boobs are being slightly pulled west-east - you can tell by where her nipples are positioned in the cups, but this is more to do with how her boobs are “set” - which varies from person to person), the straps don’t seem to be straining, and the back band is nice and horizontal/low. Overall - it looks snug and reasonably comfortable (although might be a tiny bit tight - which will be due to her cup size).

It’s difficult to give a proper size assessment without knowing more about her weight/height, but you can usually get close by judging the projection/volume of her boobs - even if I didn’t already know her size, I’d be thinking she was a relatively low back band (28-32, but most likely 30-32) and a big cup size (J-K/KK). So, if she came to see me and was wearing this bra, I’d be making a guess in the 30-32 range and J-K cup.

But it’s not an exact science.

I am quite chuffed that I was in the right ball park 😁

Have you got another one?

I’ll have a think!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 23, 2023, 11:59:54 AM
I think this is probably in Italy maybe Lake Como - but what size is this young lady? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 23, 2023, 03:15:56 PM
I think this is probably in Italy maybe Lake Como - but what size is this young lady?

Most likely in the 36-38 back, and possibly a KK cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 24, 2023, 03:12:29 AM
Most likely in the 36-38 back, and possibly a KK cup.
Thanks - I had no idea with this one.

Is there a common, or average under bust size.  I kinda guess there won't be - but I ask as; I was watching a Ukrainian woman who blogs on YouTube.  In one of her latest vids she randomly  measured her waist. It was 63cm, or 24 Inches in real money.  I thought goodness that is tiny.  Her under bust can't be more than 26 inches.

https://youtu.be/--JGfQX7D-c?t=378 (https://youtu.be/--JGfQX7D-c?t=378)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 24, 2023, 06:33:01 AM
Most likely in the 36-38 back, and possibly a KK cup.
Thanks - I had no idea with this one.

Is there a common, or average under bust size.  I kinda guess there won't be - but I ask as; I was watching a Ukrainian woman who blogs on YouTube.  In one of her latest vids she randomly  measured her waist. It was 63cm, or 24 Inches in real money.  I thought goodness that is tiny.  Her under bust can't be more than 26 inches.

https://youtu.be/--JGfQX7D-c?t=378 (https://youtu.be/--JGfQX7D-c?t=378)

I don’t think there’s been any reliable studies done on average bra sizes. If you search on Google, you’ll get a plethora of embarrassingly bad articles saying things like “average bra size increases to a whopping 36DD”, or some other such dreadful nonsense.

If I was to guess, I’d say the average (UK) bra size is somewhere around 32-34 D-F. But I would not be surprised if it was something like 28-30G.

The problem with it is twofold:

- firstly, most women are wearing the wrong bra size (probably a 34 or 36D). This is a huge problem that could be resolved with education in schools.

And

- no two women are the same. It’s not like average height or weight. You could be a 32 back and a J cup, or a 32 back and a C cup. You could be a 28 back and a D or a 28 back and a K.

I suppose there probably is an average underbust size - but it’s a useless measurement on its own. I have a friend who is a 32FF (same as me) but she’s almost 6” taller than me, and I have wider hips. Her boobs *look* bigger than mine, but we wear the exact same bra size. It’s because she’s taller, with an overall slimmer frame - and therefore she seems to have more “projection”. But I could definitely wear one of her bras with no issues.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 24, 2023, 07:59:33 AM
I really appreciate your post.  The more I seem to find out about women and their clothing the more interesting it is.

I don’t think there’s been any reliable studies done on average bra sizes.
I'm surprised that the manufacturers haven't done any research on this. (or maybe they have) Bearing in mind they're sell more of the average size than any other.
If I was to guess, I’d say the average (UK) bra size is somewhere around 32-34 D-F. But I would not be surprised if it was something like 28-30G.
From my own anecdotal observations I'd agree on those sizing. 

firstly, most women are wearing the wrong bra size (probably a 34 or 36D). This is a huge problem that could be resolved with education in schools.
I think that is a good idea - at least some basic concepts of how to size a bra.  I still find it odd that at point-of-sale there isn't more information. 

It’s not like average height or weight. You could be a 32 back and a J cup, or a 32 back and a C cup. You could be a 28 back and a D or a 28 back and a K.
I'd like to see a reclassification; where the cup size is expressed in volume and not distance.  I know it'll never happen - but I'd like to think a 28/300cc would make more sense than 28DD.  In the same way that implants are categorised in volume.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 24, 2023, 11:18:11 AM
I really appreciate your post.  The more I seem to find out about women and their clothing the more interesting it is.

I don’t think there’s been any reliable studies done on average bra sizes.
I'm surprised that the manufacturers haven't done any research on this. (or maybe they have) Bearing in mind they're sell more of the average size than any other.
If I was to guess, I’d say the average (UK) bra size is somewhere around 32-34 D-F. But I would not be surprised if it was something like 28-30G.
From my own anecdotal observations I'd agree on those sizing. 

firstly, most women are wearing the wrong bra size (probably a 34 or 36D). This is a huge problem that could be resolved with education in schools.
I think that is a good idea - at least some basic concepts of how to size a bra.  I still find it odd that at point-of-sale there isn't more information. 

It’s not like average height or weight. You could be a 32 back and a J cup, or a 32 back and a C cup. You could be a 28 back and a D or a 28 back and a K.
I'd like to see a reclassification; where the cup size is expressed in volume and not distance.  I know it'll never happen - but I'd like to think a 28/300cc would make more sense than 28DD.  In the same way that implants are categorised in volume.

I’m fairly sure there is research carried out - most commercial entities would be insane not to do basic market research, and act upon which sizes are their best-sellers (or try to understand why certain sizes don’t sell as much etc). I’ve participated in university research (a long time ago) which was a questionnaire about bra sizes/fit/purchasing habits etc. I don’t know what the outcome of it was though. And, I’ve participated in research with bra companies based in London - which generally took the form of inviting a lot of women of diffeeent shapes and sizes to try on lots of different bras, so that the companies could perfect the design templates across a range. It’s very much cat-and-mouse - because of the never-ending variances in the shapes and sizes of women.

I’d love to see some proper research carried out though - like a bra size census. It would put paid to the nonsense about 36DD (or whatever) being the “average” size.

I admire your idea about volume - but the other thing not being taken into account is shape and set. Some women have teardrop shaped boobs, some have rounded boobs, some women’s boobs pull west-east, some sit low, some sit high. Some are oddly-shaped. Volume is only part of the many issues with bra sizing/fitting.

The closest thing I can think of is being fitted for contact lenses - you can just about get the “power” of the lens correct through vision testing, but the shape of eyeballs vary from person to person, and until you can create a lens that adapts dynamically to the shape of an eyeball, you have to go with set spherical sizes and pick the closest one.

I remember years ago (around 2000) there was a documentary on UK television where two engineers tried to design the perfect bra - they worked with a bra model to do all manner of testing with her (plaster casts of her boobs, 3D modelling, computer-assisted design etc) and they created a bra called the Bioform (I think it was made by Charnos, a bra company that I liked when I was younger). I bought one out of curiosity, but it wasn’t the most comfortable of bras - it had plastic contour inserts and was very firm and rigid. It did a nice job with shape and projection, but it was like wearing a chest plate. Nice looking, but it didn’t catch on. I’m sure the documentary will be somewhere on YouTube - or there will be links to read about it if you search for “Charnos Bioform bra” on Google.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 24, 2023, 12:35:53 PM
I’d love to see some proper research carried out though - like a bra size census.
How many surveys have measured the average man's penis.  But nothing on women's boobs - kinda odd I feel. 

In the research you participated in - they didn't seem to measure anyone.  Understandably quite difficult to do and a little sensitivity to get.  But you'd have though someone would have a go.  It wouldn't surprise me if there is data, but in the most unlikely place.  NHS mammogram data - or airport body scans. 

I admire your idea about volume - but the other thing not being taken into account is shape and set.
My thinking about volume is based on a breast changing shape as it experiences gravity or momentum.  A breast changes shape when a women is either; laying down or leaning forward.  But, a breast maintains its volume in both cases. It is possibly a more of a constant measurement of a breast than a woman's overall projection. 

The closest thing I can think of is being fitted for con tact lenses - you can just about get the “power” of the lens correct through vision testing, but the shape of eyeballs vary from person to person,
That is a interesting analogy - I guess shoes are another.  People have different shaped feet but I can't remember the last time I had my feet measured correctly.   

I remember years ago (around 2000) there was a documentary on UK television where two engineers tried to design the perfect bra
I will look that up in a minute.  I do have a recollection of it.

3D modelling, computer-assisted design etc) and they created a bra called the Bioform
It's going to be AI now I guess - I may ask ChatGPT about how it'll design a bra - could be interesting.

Charnos Bioform bra” on Google.
Intresting -- https://museumofdesigninplastics.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-bioform-bra.html
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 24, 2023, 06:29:03 PM
What size would you say Wendy is?

Also, her left breast looks a bit bigger. I'm thinking she would want a cup that fits her smaller right breast perfectly and have some overflow in the left cup, rather than having perfect fit on the larger left side and a looser fitting right cup. Would that be the way to go?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/64/ec/d064ecbf929870eb214ffdc8a1670a45.jpg)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 25, 2023, 02:41:52 AM
What size would you say Wendy is?

Also, her left breast looks a bit bigger. I'm thinking she would want a cup that fits her smaller right breast perfectly and have some overflow in the left cup, rather than having perfect fit on the larger left side and a looser fitting right cup. Would that be the way to go?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/64/ec/d064ecbf929870eb214ffdc8a1670a45.jpg)

I think she’s probably something like a 30/32HH - but possibly a 30J - I saw a video of her trying on bras where she says she’s a 30J (I think that’s what she said), but I’m not convinced - the bra looked too loose on her (meaning the cup size was probably one size too big). There’s a lot of ‘emphasis’ going on with her (pushing her boobs up in bras/bikinis), so if there was ever a naked pic, I think you’d be surprised to see that her boobs aren’t as huge as you think they are. However. She’s a really beautiful woman - does she still model?

For women with one boob smaller than the other, it’s always better to go with a cup size that fits the bigger boob and use padding if the gap is significant. There’s lots of other things you can do in terms of the shoulder straps etc, but the basic principle is you can always add to the cup, but you can’t make your boobs smaller without crushing them and ending up with overspill.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 25, 2023, 03:10:46 AM
I presume this isn't everyday wear.  I think the suspenders are connected to the basque?  But what about the models bust - any guesses?  It is a tricky one as you can't really see how broad her back is.  I'd go for a 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 25, 2023, 03:29:03 AM
I presume this isn't everyday wear.  I think the suspenders are connected to the basque?  But what about the models bust - any guesses?  It is a tricky one as you can't really see how broad her back is.  I'd go for a 34G.

Yeah, this is very much bedroom wear. Not exactly something you could wear a top and skirt over, or a dress. Still, it’s cute. In my experience, you have these things on for about 15-20mins. If you’re under the influence of alcohol, and fall asleep with it on, you end up with weal marks on your shoulders for days.

34G is possible, but possibly a bit big overall. The slanted angle doesn’t help. I’d be thinking more like 30/32FF maybe.

These things rarely get made in sensible sizes though - I’ve seen them sized as XS, S, M, L. Or 1X, 3X, “fits size 12-16” (they never, ever fit). They also often come in “bra” sizes like 34D. Usually made by companies like La Senza or Lovehoney.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 25, 2023, 06:09:01 AM
This is the closest Wendy got to fully topless from about 10 years ago. She says she's a 30JJ.
She started modelling again this month on OnlyFans.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.0fdd5a43e34e14566af9c1427883e879?rik=itsWXRTPC5Cxlw&riu=http%3a%2f%2f4.bp.blogspot.com%2f-ylwql2PRiYs%2fUOBnJoOHmpI%2fAAAAAAAAOKU%2fLO7sX1mGLYs%2fs1600%2fpasties-25.jpg&ehk=GXYWgxgdUR%2f0C8U7a1GijOsP4p6FESPQOTLn7irR3w4%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 26, 2023, 04:00:04 AM
This is the closest Wendy got to fully topless from about 10 years ago. She says she's a 30JJ.
She started modelling again this month on OnlyFans.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.0fdd5a43e34e14566af9c1427883e879?rik=itsWXRTPC5Cxlw&riu=http%3a%2f%2f4.bp.blogspot.com%2f-ylwql2PRiYs%2fUOBnJoOHmpI%2fAAAAAAAAOKU%2fLO7sX1mGLYs%2fs1600%2fpasties-25.jpg&ehk=GXYWgxgdUR%2f0C8U7a1GijOsP4p6FESPQOTLn7irR3w4%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)

Yeah. 30JJ wouldn’t be impossible - I’d certainly expect that kind of roundness/fullness - but I just wonder if she needs a slightly smaller cup.

For example, this is what a 30H looks like (so, I’d expect her to be a cup size bigger).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 26, 2023, 06:17:33 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 26, 2023, 06:44:13 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 26, 2023, 07:18:34 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

Personally, I find it hot when a lovely woman such as yourself would love to fit a gorgeous woman like Wendy.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 26, 2023, 07:52:05 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

Personally, I find it hot when a lovely woman such as yourself would love to fit a gorgeous woman like Wendy.  :)

Dirty boy. I’m a professional 😉
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 26, 2023, 07:55:13 AM
Personally, I find it hot when a lovely woman such as yourself would love to fit a gorgeous woman like Wendy.  :)

Dirty boy. I’m a professional 😉

Yes Ma'am, I is a pervert.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 26, 2023, 09:50:51 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

I'd be curious to see the results of that fitting too.
I don't know if she ever viewed anything on her thread, but she did this picture for the BEA ( link below) after she worked with Pinup files I believe. Wendy, if you're lurking, get in touch and make it happen. LOL

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 27, 2023, 06:40:27 AM
Okay - one from the archives.  Devon Daniels.

Score Magazine state she is:https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/ (https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/)

I think those measurements are a little off.  I'm a bit unsure; but if you were to pin me down I'd say -34JJ.   
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 27, 2023, 07:04:12 AM
Okay - one from the archives.  Devon Daniels.

Score Magazine state she is:
  • Height: 5'1"
  • Measurements: 50-24-34
https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/ (https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/)

I think those measurements are a little off.  I'm a bit unsure; but if you were to pin me down I'd say -34JJ.

Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips. It reallly only gives me a 50” bust, and if she was a 24” waist, I’d assume roughly a 32” back (although back size and hips size often correlate, so she might be a 34 back, but she looks more like a 32 back). And, she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.

32J-34JJ would be there or thereabouts (although I would expect 34JJ to look slightly bigger).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 27, 2023, 07:06:41 AM
^
Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

I'd be curious to see the results of that fitting too.
I don't know if she ever viewed anything on her thread, but she did this picture for the BEA ( link below) after she worked with Pinup files I believe. Wendy, if you're lurking, get in touch and make it happen. LOL

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844)

Ha. An in-person fitting would be more beneficial, but I’d be happy if she got in touch with me by email and I could give her some pointers (that’s not a pun). However, she’s a strong, independent woman and she knows her own mind - and her own body. My opinion on her size is just that (and it’s definitely not a judgement of her, or her body - I’d never do that to another woman).

 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 27, 2023, 07:28:23 AM
Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips.
I assumed that's what they where. Do ladies not use them anymore?

although back size and hips size often correlate
Women have quite a few body shapes - pear, apple, hour.  Is that relationship the same for all types?

she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.
That is a good point - actually I don't think I have seen her in a bra - a quick web-search didn't show anything either. 

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 27, 2023, 08:07:55 AM
Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips.
I assumed that's what they where. Do ladies not use them anymore?

although back size and hips size often correlate
Women have quite a few body shapes - pear, apple, hour.  Is that relationship the same for all types?

she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.
That is a good point - actually I don't think I have seen her in a bra - a quick web-search didn't show anything either.

I know my own vitals (40-24-34), assuming the first number is overbust (my other vitals are 32-24-34, where the first number is my back size - or 32FF-24-34) but people rarely use these for anything meaningful. I think they were another media invention - although, they did/do have some application in fashion for clothes sizes - but the problem (again) is that a 32FF-24-34 woman who is 5’5” is going to have a different bodyshape and size to a 32FF-24-34 woman who is 6’2”.

Hips-to-back-size is common, but not a given. As you say, women come in all shapes and sizes.

36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 27, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.
You know we were talking about an up-to-date survey of women's bra sizes - I'd mentioned 3D scans.  Well it seem someone was ahead of me.

https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/25863/2022sokolowski.pdf

This paper (although not solely for busts) will probably have all the data relating to women's chest sizes.  It'll fascinating if the data is analysed.

Are there many women that confirm to 36-24-36 nowadays - to my eye that isn't a shape women seem to have now.  Although Ruben used to paint women that were a little plump -  so maybe they never really did.  I think your own remeasurements seem to me more common than 36-24-36.

 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 28, 2023, 02:34:56 AM
36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.
You know we were talking about an up-to-date survey of women's bra sizes - I'd mentioned 3D scans.  Well it seem someone was ahead of me.

https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/25863/2022sokolowski.pdf

This paper (although not solely for busts) will probably have all the data relating to women's chest sizes.  It'll fascinating if the data is analysed.

Are there many women that confirm to 36-24-36 nowadays - to my eye that isn't a shape women seem to have now.  Although Ruben used to paint women that were a little plump -  so maybe they never really did.  I think your own remeasurements seem to me more common than 36-24-36.

Interesting. I wonder if there’s other university papers, perhaps concentrating on bra sizes?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 28, 2023, 03:05:23 AM
Is it just me - or are thigh high boots and suspenders completely wrong?  One or the other ladies please.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 28, 2023, 08:20:21 AM
Is it just me - or are thigh high boots and suspenders completely wrong?  One or the other ladies please.

I think the proper term for these boots is “over-knee”. Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs. I don’t speak from experience here, as I’ve never owned a pair of either. Owned plenty of knee-high boots (my husband is nuts for them), and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did, in fact. I don’t think I have a pair in my drawer (I’d have to check). I do have pairs of hold-ups though - difficult to find a pair that genuinely stay up, but when you do, they’re magical. Again, I don’t wear them often - can’t remember when I last did, outside of bedroom fun.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on February 28, 2023, 12:05:17 PM
Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs.
They look a bit like my sisters riding boots.

Owned plenty of knee-high boots
The ones with the zip up the side?

and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did
It'll be tights now I guess. I have some thermal underwear that remind me of women's tights.

Stocking and suspenders where invented in a time before modern materials. Having said that - wasn't Nylon the new wonder material in the 40's.  There were stocking before that, I have no idea what they were made before that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 01, 2023, 03:21:09 AM
Right - back on track with these two lovely natural ladies. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 02, 2023, 04:51:32 AM
Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs.
They look a bit like my sisters riding boots.

Owned plenty of knee-high boots
The ones with the zip up the side?

and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did
It'll be tights now I guess. I have some thermal underwear that remind me of women's tights.

Stocking and suspenders where invented in a time before modern materials. Having said that - wasn't Nylon the new wonder material in the 40's.  There were stocking before that, I have no idea what they were made before that.

They were made of silk hose.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 02, 2023, 04:53:07 AM
Right - back on track with these two lovely natural ladies.

These look approx like 28E and 30F.

Sorry I haven’t responded sooner - been locked out due to the “authentication” issue again. It’s making the forum basically un-usable for me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 03, 2023, 03:20:27 AM
These look approx like 28E and 30F.
Ah,okay - bigger than I thought.

Sorry I haven’t responded sooner - been locked out due to the “authentication” issue again. It’s making the forum basically un-usable for me.
I guessed you may have been having issues again.  We'll have to try and rectify that somehow.

I thought today's pic may be an interesting one for analysis - she is slightly leaning forward, although it is difficult to get a scale. I think H range personally. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 03, 2023, 05:07:44 AM
These look approx like 28E and 30F.
Ah,okay - bigger than I thought.

Sorry I haven’t responded sooner - been locked out due to the “authentication” issue again. It’s making the forum basically un-usable for me.
I guessed you may have been having issues again.  We'll have to try and rectify that somehow.

I thought today's pic may be an interesting one for analysis - she is slightly leaning forward, although it is difficult to get a scale. I think H range personally.

Very difficult to tell. Could be anywhere from F-H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 03, 2023, 07:15:18 AM
Very difficult to tell. Could be anywhere from F-H.
Indeed.


That is an interesting way to attach her stockings.   I wonder why she did it like that?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 03, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
Very difficult to tell. Could be anywhere from F-H.
Indeed.


That is an interesting way to attach her stockings.   I wonder why she did it like that?
yep. Odd. Looks like they’re attached to the briefs. Poor placement - likely to ping off with movement.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 03, 2023, 11:29:43 AM
Poor placement - likely to ping off with movement.
What is the best way to put stocking and suspenders on - do you attach belt to stocking before putting them on, or is it best put on belt then stockings and attach.  I've only ever seen women do it the latter way.   But then again I was blown away when I first saw one put a bra on backwards and spin it round and put her arms through.  Women are so creative.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 03, 2023, 02:18:20 PM
Poor placement - likely to ping off with movement.
What is the best way to put stocking and suspenders on - do you attach belt to stocking before putting them on, or is it best put on belt then stockings and attach.  I've only ever seen women do it the latter way.   But then again I was blown away when I first saw one put a bra on backwards and spin it round and put her arms through.  Women are so creative.

I do it:

Belt on
Stockings on
Attach to belt
Knickers on
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 04, 2023, 03:30:56 AM
Attach to belt
So, how do you attached the rear suspender - it looks like you'd have to contort yourself to get them connected?

From the attached pic, you're going to have to look over your shoulder surely? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 04, 2023, 04:15:23 AM
Attach to belt
So, how do you attached the rear suspender - it looks like you'd have to contort yourself to get them connected?

From the attached pic, you're going to have to look over your shoulder surely?

Not necessarily. The stockings can be moved around at the tops, and the belt can be moved around too.

However, what you see in this pic is the common mistake with suspenders - the back straps are not supposed to curve right down the back of your arse cheeks - they’re meant to go more to the side. There’s a reason for this; they’re the same length as the front ones (unless you adjust them), and they’re not intended to be stretched like that. The constant movement (standing up, sitting down, walking etc) will cause them to slowly move and/or ping off. If you line them down the side of your thigh, this doesn’t happen as much.

Of course, this is presuming you have a standard four-strap suspender. You can get 6/8/12/14/16/20 strap suspenders.

If you look around at photos of models wearing suspenders, the fashion ones will have them down the side. The glamour ones will have them running right down their arse - because it’s only there temporarily for the photo shoot. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 04, 2023, 11:40:05 AM
Not necessarily. The stockings can be moved around at the tops, and the belt can be moved around too.
Ah okay - maybe I'll have to try some on and test it!

However, what you see in this pic is the common mistake with suspenders - the back straps are not supposed to curve right down the back of your arse cheeks
I didn't know that - but when I think about it; it makes sense.

Of course, this is presuming you have a standard four-strap suspender. You can get 6/8/12/14/16/20 strap suspenders.
Wow 20 - that has to be fetish wear surely?

If you look around at photos of models wearing suspenders, the fashion ones will have them down the side. The glamour ones will have them running right down their arse - because it’s only there temporarily for the photo shoot.
I'm going to look this up.  I'll see if I can come up with a picture demonstrating what you mean.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 05, 2023, 05:13:55 AM
A bit off topic - but this gotta be a potentially painful garment!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 05, 2023, 05:51:18 AM
A bit off topic - but this gotta be a potentially painful garment!

I do often wonder why some women wear stuff like this….
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 06, 2023, 04:44:24 AM
Quite a big lady?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 06, 2023, 05:44:59 AM
Quite a big lady?

Big-ish, yeah. Lifting your arms above your head gives your boobs great shape (the roots of your boobs lift and the skin at the top of your torso and under your arms also pulls them up).

I’d say she’d be around the 32G mark.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 06, 2023, 11:53:21 AM
Big-ish, yeah. Lifting your arms above your head gives your boobs great shape (the roots of your boobs lift and the skin at the top of your torso and under your arms also pulls them up).
I didn't know that.  Another fascinating factoid Margaret.  I will be testing this hypothesis the next time I am with a topless woman!

So, can women alter, to a certain extent, their boobs by strengthening the pectoral muscle? 

I’d say she’d be around the 32G mark.
G was my first thought,  but then I stared thinking she was bigger.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 07, 2023, 02:45:14 AM
Big or small - boobs are great. But, what bra does this muscular young lady need?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 07, 2023, 11:00:05 AM
Big or small - boobs are great. But, what bra does this muscular young lady need?

Almost definitely going to be an A cup, band size could be anywhere from 26-32. Not big, but, all boobs need some kind of support (and, to guard your nipples from showing through on a cold day). Often, I find with women who have small boobs, a slip or vest is more comfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 07, 2023, 12:20:21 PM
Almost definitely going to be an A cup
I wonder how many women never get past this size. 

but, all boobs need some kind of support
Is that to stop them sagging over time?

and, to guard your nipples from showing through on a cold day
I think we've all seen that happen to women sometime - it would make you feel self-conscious probably.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 07, 2023, 12:23:48 PM
So I asked ChatGPT a bra question:  Margaret needs to be able to correctly fit a bra for a woman - how should she do this?

Fitting a bra correctly involves several steps to ensure a comfortable and supportive fit. Here are the basic steps that Margaret can follow:

Measure the band size: Start by measuring the band size around the woman's torso, just underneath the breasts. The tape measure should be snug but not too tight. If the measurement is an odd number, round up to the nearest even number.

Measure the cup size: Measure around the fullest part of the bust to get the cup size. Subtract the band size from the bust measurement to get the cup size. Use the chart below to determine the cup size:

0 inch difference = AA cup
1 inch difference = A cup
2 inch difference = B cup
3 inch difference = C cup
4 inch difference = D cup
5 inch difference = DD cup
6 inch difference = DDD/E cup
7 inch difference = F cup
8 inch difference = G cup
9 inch difference = H cup
10 inch difference = I cup

Check the fit: Have the woman try on a bra with the size determined from the measurements. The band should be snug around the torso but not too tight. The cups should fully contain the breasts without any spillage or gaping. The center of the bra should lay flat against the chest. The straps should be adjusted so they are not too loose or too tight.

Make adjustments: If the bra does not fit correctly, make adjustments to the band size or cup size as needed. Try on different sizes and styles to find the best fit.

Check for comfort: Once the correct size has been found, check for comfort. The bra should not dig into the skin or cause any discomfort. The woman should be able to move comfortably and freely while wearing the bra.

By following these steps, Margaret can help women find a bra that fits correctly and provides the necessary support and comfort.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 07, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
So I asked ChatGPT a bra question:  Margaret needs to be able to correctly fit a bra for a woman - how should she do this?

Fitting a bra correctly involves several steps to ensure a comfortable and supportive fit. Here are the basic steps that Margaret can follow:

Measure the band size: Start by measuring the band size around the woman's torso, just underneath the breasts. The tape measure should be snug but not too tight. If the measurement is an odd number, round up to the nearest even number.

Measure the cup size: Measure around the fullest part of the bust to get the cup size. Subtract the band size from the bust measurement to get the cup size. Use the chart below to determine the cup size:

0 inch difference = AA cup
1 inch difference = A cup
2 inch difference = B cup
3 inch difference = C cup
4 inch difference = D cup
5 inch difference = DD cup
6 inch difference = DDD/E cup
7 inch difference = F cup
8 inch difference = G cup
9 inch difference = H cup
10 inch difference = I cup

Check the fit: Have the woman try on a bra with the size determined from the measurements. The band should be snug around the torso but not too tight. The cups should fully contain the breasts without any spillage or gaping. The center of the bra should lay flat against the chest. The straps should be adjusted so they are not too loose or too tight.

Make adjustments: If the bra does not fit correctly, make adjustments to the band size or cup size as needed. Try on different sizes and styles to find the best fit.

Check for comfort: Once the correct size has been found, check for comfort. The bra should not dig into the skin or cause any discomfort. The woman should be able to move comfortably and freely while wearing the bra.

By following these steps, Margaret can help women find a bra that fits correctly and provides the necessary support and comfort.

That’s pretty decent!

I’d have added one more important thing: swoop and scoop. This is where you put your boobs in the cups and swoop them in, then put your hand into the cups and scoop your boobs into place.

The round-up part is very subjective - I’d always try both sizes (eg. If you measure a 31” I’d try a 30 and also a 32 (adjusting the cup size accordingly).

But otherwise pretty good!

Edit: just properly noticed the cup sizes. It’s going with US sizing, as there’s no FF, GG, HH, J or JJ. And there’s a DDD in there too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 08, 2023, 02:54:12 AM
That’s pretty decent!
It is. The thing with this language model is you have to keep refining the question.  So I rephrased the it and added the technique you mentioned.

Fitting a bra using the swoop and scoop technique involves four main steps:

Determine the band size:
Margaret should measure the underbust area, just below the breasts, in inches. This will give the band size. If the measurement is an odd number, Margaret should round it up to the nearest even number. For example, if the underbust measurement is 31 inches, the band size would be 32.

Determine the cup size:
Margaret should measure the fullest part of the breasts, usually at the nipple level, in inches. She should subtract the band size from this measurement to determine the cup size. For example, if the bust measurement is 38 inches and the band size is 32, the difference is 6. According to UK bra sizing, a difference of 6 corresponds to a cup size of a UK E.

Put on the bra correctly:
Margaret should fasten the bra on the loosest hook, ensuring that the bra is level on the back and the straps are adjusted to fit comfortably on the shoulders.

Use the swoop and scoop technique:
Margaret should lean forward slightly, and using the opposite hand to each breast, she should scoop each breast towards the center of the chest, ensuring that all the breast tissue is inside the bra cups. This technique will help ensure that the bra fits correctly and provides the necessary support.

It's important to note that bra fitting is not an exact science, and different brands and styles may fit differently. Margaret should also be mindful of any discomfort or bulging, as this may indicate that the bra is not the correct size or style for the individual.

The paragraph about swoop and scoop  it seems to think you are getting a bra fitted as opposed to fitting a bra for someone else which is what I meant.  Still impressive I think.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 08, 2023, 02:57:21 AM
That’s pretty decent!
It is. The thing with this language model is you have to keep refining the question.  So I rephrased the it and added the technique you mentioned.

Fitting a bra using the swoop and scoop technique involves four main steps:

Determine the band size:
Margaret should measure the underbust area, just below the breasts, in inches. This will give the band size. If the measurement is an odd number, Margaret should round it up to the nearest even number. For example, if the underbust measurement is 31 inches, the band size would be 32.

Determine the cup size:
Margaret should measure the fullest part of the breasts, usually at the nipple level, in inches. She should subtract the band size from this measurement to determine the cup size. For example, if the bust measurement is 38 inches and the band size is 32, the difference is 6. According to UK bra sizing, a difference of 6 corresponds to a cup size of a UK E.

Put on the bra correctly:
Margaret should fasten the bra on the loosest hook, ensuring that the bra is level on the back and the straps are adjusted to fit comfortably on the shoulders.

Use the swoop and scoop technique:
Margaret should lean forward slightly, and using the opposite hand to each breast, she should scoop each breast towards the center of the chest, ensuring that all the breast tissue is inside the bra cups. This technique will help ensure that the bra fits correctly and provides the necessary support.

It's important to note that bra fitting is not an exact science, and different brands and styles may fit differently. Margaret should also be mindful of any discomfort or bulging, as this may indicate that the bra is not the correct size or style for the individual.

Yes. It’s very good. I understand it gleans its information from available sources - so it must be scouring material published in recent years.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 08, 2023, 03:05:25 AM
Yes. It’s very good. I understand it gleans its information from available sources - so it must be scouring material published in recent years.
As far as I understand it - it is a neural network, and generates text based on a learning model.  So it hasn't copied this text verbatim, its added each word in the sentence based on a algorithm.  Damn clever stuff.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 08, 2023, 03:10:18 AM
Yes. It’s very good. I understand it gleans its information from available sources - so it must be scouring material published in recent years.
As far as I understand it - it is a neural network, and generates text based on a learning model.  So it hasn't copied this text verbatim, its added each word in the sentence based on a algorithm.  Damn clever stuff.

I’ve been looking at tgr AI artwork thread too. I don’t know how to access these services, but o wonder if any of them could be used to design bras?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 08, 2023, 03:24:06 AM
I’ve been looking at tgr AI artwork thread too. I don’t know how to access these services, but o wonder if any of them could be used to design bras?
That is an interesting question.  I've not used art AI - I'm not sure if these would work as they seem to stylise images rather than invent anything.  But I'm not 100% sure to be honest.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 08, 2023, 03:50:36 AM
Okay - for today's challenge I thought I'd try some video.  Hope it works.

https://www.redgifs.com/watch/roastedfluidbasil
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 08, 2023, 04:22:36 AM
Okay - for today's challenge I thought I'd try some video.  Hope it works.

https://www.redgifs.com/watch/roastedfluidbasil

Difficult to say because of thr angle - but possible 32F-34FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 09, 2023, 03:00:14 AM
Difficult to say because of thr angle - but possible 32F-34FF.
Thanks.  I had no idea on that one.

So for today - I thought I'd post this young lady as she has a more usual shape.  I guess the normal criteria apply as to how you measure?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 09, 2023, 03:46:06 AM
Difficult to say because of thr angle - but possible 32F-34FF.
Thanks.  I had no idea on that one.

So for today - I thought I'd post this young lady as she has a more usual shape.  I guess the normal criteria apply as to how you measure?

This is something that’s usually caused by weight gain, then weight loss. You’re left with a lot of excess tissue and a general sag. It’s unfortunate and I feel sympathy for her.

The same rules and fitting guidance apply, although, I’d possibly ask for leaning and lying measurements too. Ultimately, a good, full-cup supportive bra would work best. Difficult to tell what size she would be without a fitting, but it’s going to be 34-38 back and big cups.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 10, 2023, 05:33:56 AM
This is something that’s usually caused by weight gain, then weight loss. You’re left with a lot of excess tissue and a general sag. It’s unfortunate and I feel sympathy for her.
Yep - a moment on the lips and a lifetime on the hips (or tits in her case)

Is this (attached) woman's bra a little loose?  The top part seems too big, like she has lost weight or has the wrong size.

I also have a general question - and feel free to ignore it if you feel uncomfortable to answer it.  Having a larger bust - is it a blessing or a curse?   I'd imagine clothes could be tricky - a strapless evening gown may prove problematic.  And getting a blouse to fit.

But then again. There must be some upsides?  The attention you get from men - I guess that is a double edged swore too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 10, 2023, 05:55:46 AM
This is something that’s usually caused by weight gain, then weight loss. You’re left with a lot of excess tissue and a general sag. It’s unfortunate and I feel sympathy for her.
Yep - a moment on the lips and a lifetime on the hips (or tits in her case)

Is this (attached) woman's bra a little loose?  The top part seems too big, like she has lost weight or has the wrong size.

I also have a general question - and feel free to ignore it if you feel uncomfortable to answer it.  Having a larger bust - is it a blessing or a curse?   I'd imagine clothes could be tricky - a strapless evening gown may prove problematic.  And getting a blouse to fit.

But then again. There must be some upsides?  The attention you get from men - I guess that is a double edged swore too.

Yeah. It looks a little bit loose. Probably as much to do with the design of the item than anything else.

As for having big boobs. I’d say it’s more a curse than a blessing. I don’t mean it’s terrible, but I think I’ve commented before on other threads about how having big boobs can present a lot of problems - not just fashion-related, but discomfort, unwanted attention etc. I’ve said before that I’ve ordered up a dress, only to try it on and feel a total mess in it. However, there are some plus sides - having a nice figure/shape/curve (when it behaves) is nice. And, my husband absolutely loves them - but given the option, I’d probably prefer a smaller size. It’s why I have difficulty understanding women who go super-sized - it must be physically and mentally tortuous; any advantage is surely outweighed by the numerous disadvantages.

For me, they’re just a part of my body - like my ears or my feet. For you (and many of the denizens of the BEA), they’re a source of fascination and arousal.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 10, 2023, 07:30:34 AM
As for having big boobs. I’d say it’s more a curse than a blessing.
I appreciate the reply. It was International Women's Day recently so I thought my question would be kinda appropriate. As a man, who doesn't have to deal with the issues of a large bust - I used to think big boobs were something all women would love to have.  It is nice to be a bit more enlightened on this.  To that extent - I will make an effort to not look at a girls chest (it is traumatically hard not too at times) when I meet someone with a large set.  I don't want to make them feel self-conscious or uncomfortable.

It’s why I have difficulty understanding women who go super-sized - it must be physically and mentally tortuous; any advantage is surely outweighed by the numerous disadvantages.
You're not the only one - I can't see having a huge fake chest is healthy.  I also feel the same about a lot of body modifications. I wouldn't have a tattoo. And there is no way I'd take performance enhancing drugs just to be buff.

For me, they’re just a part of my body - like my ears or my feet. For you (and many of the denizens of the BEA), they’re a source of fascination and arousal.
That is a good and healthy attitude - I feel the same about myself. 

I think it is okay to be fascinated by big boobs, and I am.  And I have no idea why I feel this way - it is something quite subconscious.
 
Many busty women are making a good living showing what they have. I support their freedom to do so.  I was reading a thread on Reddit, it was in UK personal finance.  The poster was asking how to lower their tax bill from the 150K they were making on Only Fans a year.   Study for 10 years to be a Doctor and become a surgeon, or flash a big set of boobs and earn about the same.  What an odd world we are in.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 11, 2023, 03:09:55 AM
As for having big boobs. I’d say it’s more a curse than a blessing.
I appreciate the reply. It was International Women's Day recently so I thought my question would be kinda appropriate. As a man, who doesn't have to deal with the issues of a large bust - I used to think big boobs were something all women would love to have.  It is nice to be a bit more enlightened on this.  To that extent - I will make an effort to not look at a girls chest (it is traumatically hard not too at times) when I meet someone with a large set.  I don't want to make them feel self-conscious or uncomfortable.

It’s why I have difficulty understanding women who go super-sized - it must be physically and mentally tortuous; any advantage is surely outweighed by the numerous disadvantages.
You're not the only one - I can't see having a huge fake chest is healthy.  I also feel the same about a lot of body modifications. I wouldn't have a tattoo. And there is no way I'd take performance enhancing drugs just to be buff.

For me, they’re just a part of my body - like my ears or my feet. For you (and many of the denizens of the BEA), they’re a source of fascination and arousal.
That is a good and healthy attitude - I feel the same about myself. 

I think it is okay to be fascinated by big boobs, and I am.  And I have no idea why I feel this way - it is something quite subconscious.
 
Many busty women are making a good living showing what they have. I support their freedom to do so.  I was reading a thread on Reddit, it was in UK personal finance.  The poster was asking how to lower their tax bill from the 150K they were making on Only Fans a year.   Study for 10 years to be a Doctor and become a surgeon, or flash a big set of boobs and earn about the same.  What an odd world we are in.

The best way to be is just be kind, appropriate and respectful.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 11, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
The best way to be is just be kind, appropriate and respectful.
I agree. 

So I saw this bra and pants combo - the bows on the bra straps.  These are going to be uncomfortable if you are wearing this under a blouse, I say that, as I presume they will.  I think it looks lovely, but why would a woman buy this if to only dance round the house in it? 

And, while we are here - how big is her bust?  I was looking at the door behind and I don't know if you can gauge her height by that or not. 

PS not that I am against a women dancing round the house in undies.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 12, 2023, 08:11:20 AM
The best way to be is just be kind, appropriate and respectful.
I agree. 

So I saw this bra and pants combo - the bows on the bra straps.  These are going to be uncomfortable if you are wearing this under a blouse, I say that, as I presume they will.  I think it looks lovely, but why would a woman buy this if to only dance round the house in it? 

And, while we are here - how big is her bust?  I was looking at the door behind and I don't know if you can gauge her height by that or not. 

PS not that I am against a women dancing round the house in undies.

Well, it’s nice enough and looks reasonably supportive - although, it’s not my choice (I’m not keen on thongs either). I understand why women wear stuff like this though - it’s cute and sexy, and if it’s reasonably comfortable on, then why not wear it and feel good about yourself? And, on the plus side, it adds some spark in the bedroom.

I’d say she’s possibly a 30F, maybe a 28G/GG?

Interesting point about the little bows - they’re usually just decorative (us girls like frills, bows, lace, straps, clasps and other cute things) - but the bow in the middle of a bra (when they have one) is a bark back to the days when the bone/busk was inserted into a corset - the best way to hide the opening in the material was to top it off with a little bow.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 12, 2023, 11:53:35 AM
And, on the plus side, it adds some spark in the bedroom.
Works for me!

I’d say she’s possibly a 30F, maybe a 28G/GG?
Thanks...

(us girls like frills, bows, lace, straps, clasps and other cute things)
Not just you girls.  I see there is a story today in the news of Chinese men modelling lingerie - maybe this could start a trend of mens lingerie.

the best way to hide the opening in the material was to top it off with a little bow.
I wondered why it was put there.

One question I have been meaning to ask you.  The Playtex adds on TV used to say as a tag line lifts and separates.  I get the lift part , but separate?  Isn't that an uncomfortable way to have your boobs - it seems modern bras mainly do the opposite of separate.  Was it all just marketing.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 12, 2023, 12:17:33 PM
And, on the plus side, it adds some spark in the bedroom.
Works for me!

I’d say she’s possibly a 30F, maybe a 28G/GG?
Thanks...

(us girls like frills, bows, lace, straps, clasps and other cute things)
Not just you girls.  I see there is a story today in the news of Chinese men modelling lingerie - maybe this could start a trend of mens lingerie.

the best way to hide the opening in the material was to top it off with a little bow.
I wondered why it was put there.

One question I have been meaning to ask you.  The Playtex adds on TV used to say as a tag line lifts and separates.  I get the lift part , but separate?  Isn't that an uncomfortable way to have your boobs - it seems modern bras mainly do the opposite of separate.  Was it all just marketing.

I vaguely remember the Playtex ads (the one I recall the most is “cross your heart”). Lift and separate was probably more to do with giving you a certain shape. What good bras do now is lift and support.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 13, 2023, 04:42:09 AM
I vaguely remember the Playtex ads (the one I recall the most is “cross your heart”). Lift and separate was probably more to do with giving you a certain shape. What good bras do now is lift and support.
I found the add.  This was 1982.  Only $8.99 - bargain.

https://youtu.be/E0wSsTclPYk (https://youtu.be/E0wSsTclPYk)

I've had the attached picture in my pictures folder for a few weeks now. It look comfortable - albeit the sheer material looks out of place to me. What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 13, 2023, 07:06:48 AM
I vaguely remember the Playtex ads (the one I recall the most is “cross your heart”). Lift and separate was probably more to do with giving you a certain shape. What good bras do now is lift and support.
I found the add.  This was 1982.  Only $8.99 - bargain.

https://youtu.be/E0wSsTclPYk (https://youtu.be/E0wSsTclPYk)

I've had the attached picture in my pictures folder for a few weeks now. It look comfortable - albeit the sheer material looks out of place to me. What are your thoughts?

That’s the ad (dubbed with US voices).

The bodyshaper is gorgeous - it’s the Charnos Bioform thong body (remember I mentioned Bioform a few pages back?). I’m not entirely convinced this was an actual item you could purchase though - I think it might have been a modification (note the model’s public hair showing - this tells me it’s not an official Charnos photo, because lingerie models usually wear liners on sheer briefs, or the photos get edited).

The reason I don’t think it’s a real item is because I’d have purchased one if it was. There was definitely a Bioform bra exactly like this, and a thong to match - but I don’t ever recall seeing a bodyshaper. But I could be wrong.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 13, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
That’s the ad (dubbed with US voices).
I'd not noticed that, I assumed it was a US add.  I can see the lip sync now.

The bodyshaper is gorgeous - it’s the Charnos Bioform thong body (remember I mentioned Bioform a few pages back?).
It is - I can see why you'd like wearing one.

I’m not entirely convinced this was an actual item you could purchase though - I think it might have been a modification (note the model’s public hair showing - this tells me it’s not an official Charnos photo, because lingerie models usually wear liners on sheer briefs, or the photos get edited).
I must admit I wondered about the pubic hair.  I think this is what I found notable and usual in this piece of clothing.  It doesn't seem practicable.

The reason I don’t think it’s a real item is because I’d have purchased one if it was.
I did a reverse image search and that was the only image I could find.  But the rabbit hole I'm in now after doing that with some lovely lingerie.

I see there is quite a variation of hip cuts - this one is quite extreme.  I think this looks great - but like a lot of women clothes, practicability seems to be an afterthought.  I feel sure that'd not stay in place with normal wear.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 13, 2023, 12:35:55 PM
That’s the ad (dubbed with US voices).
I'd not noticed that, I assumed it was a US add.  I can see the lip sync now.

The bodyshaper is gorgeous - it’s the Charnos Bioform thong body (remember I mentioned Bioform a few pages back?).
It is - I can see why you'd like wearing one.

I’m not entirely convinced this was an actual item you could purchase though - I think it might have been a modification (note the model’s public hair showing - this tells me it’s not an official Charnos photo, because lingerie models usually wear liners on sheer briefs, or the photos get edited).
I must admit I wondered about the pubic hair.  I think this is what I found notable and usual in this piece of clothing.  It doesn't seem practicable.

The reason I don’t think it’s a real item is because I’d have purchased one if it was.
I did a reverse image search and that was the only image I could find.  But the rabbit hole I'm in now after doing that with some lovely lingerie.

I see there is quite a variation of hip cuts - this one is quite extreme.  I think this looks great - but like a lot of women clothes, practicability seems to be an afterthought.  I feel sure that'd not stay in place with normal wear.

Yeah. It looks gorgeous, but (for me) thongs of any kind are like cheesewire. I can’t understand how anyone can wear them.

Bodyshapers, on the other hand, are amazing. I don’t wear them as much as I used to, but when you find a suitable one, they are terrific under garments.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 14, 2023, 04:14:31 AM
Yeah. It looks gorgeous, but (for me) thongs of any kind are like cheesewire. I can’t understand how anyone can wear them.
I did try a thong once - its not for me either.  Haha yes cheesewire is a good analogy.

Bodyshapers, on the other hand, are amazing. I don’t wear them as much as I used to, but when you find a suitable one, they are terrific under garments.
How are they for comfort - I assume there is some added pressure in some places - if I have the whole concept right that is?  How are they for someone with a bigger bust?

I wonder if you can get something like that for men (not for me haha) not to look feminine but to shape a man's body. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 14, 2023, 04:31:26 AM
A zipper?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 14, 2023, 01:26:03 PM
A zipper?

Goodness. I’ve had a front zipper on a corset, but never a basque. Takes all sorts I guess.

Bodyshapers are generally quite comfortable. Snug. They tend to really help with bigger boobs (assuming you get the right size/fit etc), keeping not just your boobs in shape but also the rest of you.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 15, 2023, 03:13:27 AM
Goodness. I’ve had a front zipper on a corset, but never a basque. Takes all sorts I guess.
I had this in my Downloads folder - this is the a corset with a zipper?

Bodyshapers are generally quite comfortable. Snug. They tend to really help with bigger boobs (assuming you get the right size/fit etc), keeping not just your boobs in shape but also the rest of you.
I was just having a look here:  https://body-shaper.co.uk/  They can be made [it seems] to really alter a woman's shape.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 15, 2023, 03:52:40 AM
Goodness. I’ve had a front zipper on a corset, but never a basque. Takes all sorts I guess.
I had this in my Downloads folder - this is the a corset with a zipper?

Bodyshapers are generally quite comfortable. Snug. They tend to really help with bigger boobs (assuming you get the right size/fit etc), keeping not just your boobs in shape but also the rest of you.
I was just having a look here:  https://body-shaper.co.uk/  They can be made [it seems] to really alter a woman's shape.

That looks like an overbust corset (very difficult to get in your exact size) - mine was an underbust corset with a zipper. You zipped it at the front and laced it according to your fit/shape, then it was relatively easy to take on and off. I think I wore it twice. They’re not the most comfortable of garments to wear for prolonged periods.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 16, 2023, 03:22:23 AM
You zipped it at the front and laced it according to your fit/shape, then it was relatively easy to take on and off. I think I wore it twice. They’re not the most comfortable of garments to wear for prolonged periods.
A zipper next to bare skin I find uncomfortable.  I guess it has a little flap of material to cover the zip on the inside.

Okay, back to a bit of sizing.  As a side note, I often see girls walking about dressed like this - I'm in two minds about it to be honest.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 16, 2023, 12:58:37 PM
You zipped it at the front and laced it according to your fit/shape, then it was relatively easy to take on and off. I think I wore it twice. They’re not the most comfortable of garments to wear for prolonged periods.
A zipper next to bare skin I find uncomfortable.  I guess it has a little flap of material to cover the zip on the inside.

Okay, back to a bit of sizing.  As a side note, I often see girls walking about dressed like this - I'm in two minds about it to be honest.
Mmmm… difficult to tell, but I’d be guessing in the G cup category. Possibly something like a 32G/GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 17, 2023, 06:00:11 AM
Mmmm… difficult to tell, but I’d be guessing in the G cup category. Possibly something like a 32G/GG.
Okay thanks for the 32G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 17, 2023, 11:44:41 AM
Are these military grade suspenders?  I've never seen them this substantial.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 18, 2023, 04:12:59 AM
Not sure if we've done Holly before?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 18, 2023, 05:24:55 AM
Are these military grade suspenders?  I've never seen them this substantial.

I wouldn’t say military, but they’re certainly wide! I used to have a 12-strap, like this one (and I also had custom-made suspender clips for a bodyshaper. The ones that came with it were too thin and too long, so I got really short ones made).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 18, 2023, 05:33:32 AM
Not sure if we've done Holly before?

Well… she’s wearing the wrong size of bra in this photo, for a start. She needs to go up a band size and possibly up a cup size.

I had a look around to see other photos of her. She’s possibly something like a 34J or a 32JJ. In some photos, her boobs look bigger, but I guess that’s either angle, pose or weight gain. Does she still model?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 19, 2023, 03:36:13 AM
I used to have a 12-strap, like this one
Was that for fashion or functionality?  I bet it took a bit of effort to do up all those straps.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 19, 2023, 03:38:25 AM
Well… she’s wearing the wrong size of bra in this photo, for a start. She needs to go up a band size and possibly up a cup size.
I thought it looked a little small.

Does she still model?
I think so, she is relatively new to the scene. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 19, 2023, 03:42:36 AM
I've just been going through some of the pictures I have an an external drive - found lots I'd forgotten I have - like this one.

This is a nice bra - seems a good fit for a big bust.

Edit - nah cup is too small.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 19, 2023, 07:54:12 AM
I used to have a 12-strap, like this one
Was that for fashion or functionality?  I bet it took a bit of effort to do up all those straps.

My husband bought me it. I think I wore it once, maybe twice (in the bedroom). Not the easiest to fasten up, but once on, there was no risk of the stockings falling down. Very sexy too - but not the most practical.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 19, 2023, 07:55:11 AM
I've just been going through some of the pictures I have an an external drive - found lots I'd forgotten I have - like this one.

This is a nice bra - seems a good fit for a big bust.

Edit - nah cup is too small.

It’s a lovely bra. Very supportive. She needs to go up a band size at least, you can see it arching up around the side. Possibly even up a cup size too - although going up a band size would help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 20, 2023, 07:35:07 AM
I was going to ask your estimation the size of a favourite models of mine Jo Paul - https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/675188169104269174/ (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/675188169104269174/)

But then I found this image when looking for a Jo Paul pic to post .  So as she has some interesting lingerie I thought I'd post her as well.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Bombayduk on March 20, 2023, 10:01:24 AM
A new challenge
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 20, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
A new challenge
Is that not a morph?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Bombayduk on March 20, 2023, 12:52:09 PM
A new challenge
Is that not a morph?
I don't believe it is; some girl posting herself on Brittany Elizabeth's Twitter.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Bombayduk on March 20, 2023, 12:52:48 PM
A new challenge
Is that not a morph?
I posted another of her on Llelwyn's thread
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Bombayduk on March 20, 2023, 03:06:14 PM
A new challenge
Is that not a morph?
I looked it up and she goes by Roxanne Heaven on Twitter.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 20, 2023, 04:05:57 PM
I was going to ask your estimation the size of a favourite models of mine Jo Paul - https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/675188169104269174/ (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/675188169104269174/)

But then I found this image when looking for a Jo Paul pic to post .  So as she has some interesting lingerie I thought I'd post her as well.
possibly a 28GG or a 30F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 20, 2023, 04:07:41 PM
A new challenge
Is that not a morph?
I looked it up and she goes by Roxanne Heaven on Twitter.

If they’re for real, she’s probably around 32/34L, possibly slightly bigger. I’d have to see more pics.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 21, 2023, 04:21:47 AM
Is this a balcony bra?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 21, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
Is this a balcony bra?

Yes. Sometimes also called a balconette. They tend to have a straighter neckline, sort of demi/half cups, straighter support and the straps tend to be slightly more towards the armpits. I tend to prefer a balcony bra if I can get one I like.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 22, 2023, 04:05:00 AM
Yes. Sometimes also called a balconette. They tend to have a straighter neckline, sort of demi/half cups, straighter support and the straps tend to be slightly more towards the armpits. I tend to prefer a balcony bra if I can get one I like.
Ah okay - is there a reason they are like that, or is it just fashion?

For today's challenge a bit of video - https://www.redgifs.com/watch/rightwarpedbluebreastedkookaburra (https://www.redgifs.com/watch/rightwarpedbluebreastedkookaburra)

The expression on the guys face, this is me literally every time I see naked boobs.  Ah, never gets old.  But what is her size?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 22, 2023, 05:25:47 AM
Yes. Sometimes also called a balconette. They tend to have a straighter neckline, sort of demi/half cups, straighter support and the straps tend to be slightly more towards the armpits. I tend to prefer a balcony bra if I can get one I like.
Ah okay - is there a reason they are like that, or is it just fashion?

For today's challenge a bit of video - https://www.redgifs.com/watch/rightwarpedbluebreastedkookaburra (https://www.redgifs.com/watch/rightwarpedbluebreastedkookaburra)

The expression on the guys face, this is me literally every time I see naked boobs.  Ah, never gets old.  But what is her size?

It’s a combination of fashion/comfort/design - and preference.

This lady looks like a 34G/GG, maybe a 32H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 22, 2023, 10:40:44 AM
Ghanaian Instagrammer Tilly Anber - her thread on the BEA Forum is here (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999613.0).
(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9999613.0;attach=840527;image)
What do you reckon her cup & bra size is, Margaret? I guess she's at least an H cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 22, 2023, 12:35:01 PM
Ghanaian Instagrammer Tilly Anber - her thread on the BEA Forum is here (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9999613.0).
(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9999613.0;attach=840527;image)
What do you reckon her cup & bra size is, Margaret? I guess she's at least an H cup.


I’d be thinking more 32JJ/30K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 23, 2023, 02:33:11 AM
I think this lady has a lovely figure and a pretty face.  But is she a C or D?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 23, 2023, 12:27:38 PM
I think this lady has a lovely figure and a pretty face.  But is she a C or D?

She’s more likely to be something like a 28E or a 26F.

(28E attached).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 23, 2023, 01:10:08 PM
I think this lady has a lovely figure and a pretty face.  But is she a C or D?


She’s more likely to be something like a 28E or a 26F.

(28E attached).


So many "bra-size violations" have been burned into our collective boobhounds' minds for so long that it's crazy how those somehow seem to be "too small" to be an E cup. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 23, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
I think this lady has a lovely figure and a pretty face.  But is she a C or D?


She’s more likely to be something like a 28E or a 26F.

(28E attached).


So many "bra-size violations" have been burned into our collective boobhounds' minds for so long that it's crazy how those somehow seem to be "too small" to be an E cup. 

Remember that the cup size is relative to the band size. A 28E is approximately a 28” underbust and a 34” overbust (roughly 6” difference). Also, it’s a much smaller frame and a smaller body all round. It would be like being a 36E or a 32E - which are literally nothing like each other, but are relative in terms of the difference between underbust and overbust.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 24, 2023, 04:49:23 AM
She’s more likely to be something like a 28E or a 26F. (28E attached).
I know the theory, but the band size and corresponding cup size still catch me out.  It is probably more intuitive when you buy bras and wear them.

Okay today - I saw this pic and whilst wanting to know her size - it made me think.  And forgive the naivety, but does having a large bust hinder mobility.   I can just imagine trying to get up from a prone position with a weight on my chest.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 24, 2023, 07:27:44 AM
She’s more likely to be something like a 28E or a 26F. (28E attached).
I know the theory, but the band size and corresponding cup size still catch me out.  It is probably more intuitive when you buy bras and wear them.

Okay today - I saw this pic and whilst wanting to know her size - it made me think.  And forgive the naivety, but does having a large bust hinder mobility.   I can just imagine trying to get up from a prone position with a weight on my chest.

Having big boobs definitely has an impact on all mobility (and posture) - the bigger your boobs, the bigger the issue. However, like most things to do with your body, your central nervous system compensates for it accordingly - mostly. I say mostly, because boobs are not like other parts of your body (like arms, legs, feet etc); they’re not “controllable” like limbs. They obey gravity and momentum - they often go where they want to go, rather than where you want them to be; especially if you’re not wearing a supportive bra. They get in the way, they obstruct movement, they bump into things and - when not in a bra - they behave oddly during vigorous movement. Wearing a bikini (or swimsuit) is challenging, because they’re not always as supportive as a bra - so slips can happen. I don’t have any particular stories about this sort of thing, but I’ve experienced boob “clap” before - where your boobs smack together and make a clapping sound. I should also add that sudden or overstretched motions can be sore - the skin at the roots is stretched and can cause pain (eg. If you jump up and down while naked). And, of course there’s back and shoulder problems from carrying around weight at the front of your torso.

I’d say having big boobs is about 80-90% a pain and barely 10% fun. But, you do get used to them - I rarely think about them, unless they’re causing me a problem. They’re just *there* - like an earlobe or hair, or eyelashes. (Except bigger).

~I love answering questions like this, as it forces me to think about them and how they affect me (and how having big boobs probably affects other women too). Ask more!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 24, 2023, 10:56:20 AM
And we love you answering questions like this. Thank you, Margaret!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 24, 2023, 12:58:57 PM
Having big boobs definitely has an impact on all mobility (and posture) - the bigger your boobs, the bigger the issue.
I appreciate your thoughts - I haven't experienced anything like having a large chest - but wearing a heavy backpack and feeling the change of equilibrium that gives maybe goes some-way to understanding the issues.  I know that isn't a perfect analogy.   And my back hurts after wearing one for a few hours.
 
They get in the way, they obstruct movement, they bump into things and - when not in a bra - they behave oddly during vigorous movement.
This is one of the things I've wondered about - some of the most ubiquitous tasks like driving a car or cooking have got to be just  tad more tricky if you have something obstructing your view.   Sleeeping* on your front?

where your boobs smack together and make a clapping sound. I should also add that sudden or overstretched motions can be sore - the skin at the roots is stretched and can cause pain (eg. If you jump up and down while naked).
I think men don't appreciate this aspect.  Although - gotta say walking about naked my little fella can often get caught in things. 

And, of course there’s back and shoulder problems from carrying around weight at the front of your torso.
I reckon breasts have roughly the same weight as water.  Just looked it up - and each one of your breasts (32FF) is 1.8 kg (4.0 lb)  That is quite a bit of weight so I can completely understand how painful that is going to be. 

I’d say having big boobs is about 80-90% a pain and barely 10% fun. But, you do get used to them - I rarely think about them, unless they’re causing me a problem.
Would you ever consider a reduction?  There would have been a time when you didn't have them - I wonder if there was a point when your thought - oh no - too big now! 

~I love answering questions like this, as it forces me to think about them and how they affect me (and how having big boobs probably affects other women too). Ask more!
Well we all appreciate you taking the time to answer our questions.  At the end of the day the more we unsterstand about our fellow humans the better this world is going to be.

*Blocked word for some reason - added an extra E
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 25, 2023, 03:39:47 AM
Having big boobs definitely has an impact on all mobility (and posture) - the bigger your boobs, the bigger the issue.
I appreciate your thoughts - I haven't experienced anything like having a large chest - but wearing a heavy backpack and feeling the change of equilibrium that gives maybe goes some-way to understanding the issues.  I know that isn't a perfect analogy.   And my back hurts after wearing one for a few hours.
 
They get in the way, they obstruct movement, they bump into things and - when not in a bra - they behave oddly during vigorous movement.
This is one of the things I've wondered about - some of the most ubiquitous tasks like driving a car or cooking have got to be just  tad more tricky if you have something obstructing your view.   Sleeeping* on your front?

where your boobs smack together and make a clapping sound. I should also add that sudden or overstretched motions can be sore - the skin at the roots is stretched and can cause pain (eg. If you jump up and down while naked).
I think men don't appreciate this aspect.  Although - gotta say walking about naked my little fella can often get caught in things. 

And, of course there’s back and shoulder problems from carrying around weight at the front of your torso.
I reckon breasts have roughly the same weight as water.  Just looked it up - and each one of your breasts (32FF) is 1.8 kg (4.0 lb)  That is quite a bit of weight so I can completely understand how painful that is going to be. 

I’d say having big boobs is about 80-90% a pain and barely 10% fun. But, you do get used to them - I rarely think about them, unless they’re causing me a problem.
Would you ever consider a reduction?  There would have been a time when you didn't have them - I wonder if there was a point when your thought - oh no - too big now! 

~I love answering questions like this, as it forces me to think about them and how they affect me (and how having big boobs probably affects other women too). Ask more!
Well we all appreciate you taking the time to answer our questions.  At the end of the day the more we unsterstand about our fellow humans the better this world is going to be.

*Blocked word for some reason - added an extra E

Thank you.

To answer some of these…

Basic activity - I generally don’t have too many issues, driving isn’t a problem, but sitting comfortably at a desk can be problematic sometimes. The kinds of things that cause me problems are finding clothes that I feel good in. But there’s also other activity, like exercise, that can be challenging. I can **82** on my front, but it’s not terribly comfortable. I definitely can’t **82** on my back - my boobs splay out left-right. I prefer to **82** on my side (I keep to one side all night). I have a friend with ridiculously big boobs, and she can **82** any which way - and on her front isn’t a problem.

As for a reduction, I’ve considered it in the past - but not seriously. I don’t really remember not having boobs - I’ve had them since I was about 10/11 (I think), and they just gradually got bigger. I recall noticing their size around age 22-23, and I really noticed how ridiculous things had got when I was pregnant - but then everything got big when I was pregnant and never really went back to normal. Now, I’m kind of used to them - but I wouldn’t complain if they were smaller.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 25, 2023, 01:25:10 PM
The kinds of things that cause me problems are finding clothes that I feel good in. But there’s also other activity, like exercise, that can be challenging.
Are there retailers that specialise in clothes for bustier women?  I remember a shop in my home town that only sold outsized clothes for men.  You'd think there'd be something similar for women with bigger busts with properly tailored clothes.  I'm just thinking about women I know and how they choose clothes - a woman with a bust much bigger than her waist and things don't always hang right.  Do you think colour is an important consideration when choosing clothes - I say that as it seems to me a well chosen colour and style can make a busier woman look completely different.

I definitely can’t **82** on my back - my boobs splay out left-right.
I have a friend who actually sleeps sitting up on many occasions (okay she does snore and she does it primarily for that).  I don't know how she does that to be honest - she does lay on a her back too - never on her front.   I sleeep on my side - but I also fidget from one side to the other - that can't be a easy with a bigger bust?

As for a reduction, I’ve considered it in the past - but not seriously. I don’t really remember not having boobs.
I think as long as you are healthy and they are not causing you too much pain, natural is probably best.

I’ve had them since I was about 10/11 (I think), and they just gradually got bigger. I recall noticing their size around age 22-23,
Isn't 10 quite young to get boobs, I thought it was a little older than that.  I'm trying to remember what the girls at school were like at that age.  I only noticed them (girls) at 15/16 probably.

What were other women like to you when you were 23 - I like women, but they can often be bitchy to other women at times.   Especially if they stand out as you probably did.   

I really noticed how ridiculous things had got when I was pregnant - but then everything got big when I was pregnant and never really went back to normal. Now, I’m kind of used to them - but I wouldn’t complain if they were smaller.
I think your experience of pregnancy is quite common, it does seem like once you grow due to those pregnancy hormones it is hard to un-grow. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 26, 2023, 01:47:58 PM
I was looking at this today - not a view I get that often.  More common if you have some boobs...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 26, 2023, 01:55:38 PM
I was looking at this today - not a view I get that often.  More common if you have some boobs...
It’s not quite as downward an angle as that. But it’s not far off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 27, 2023, 02:11:35 AM
Its an interesting way to see the world.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 27, 2023, 03:04:00 AM
Its an interesting way to see the world.

I’m sure it is for men! As I’ve said before, you get used to them being there. It’s not really the novelty you think it might be.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 27, 2023, 03:41:14 AM
I was looking at this today - not a view I get that often.  More common if you have some boobs...
Don't leave us hangin', bro. Who is that?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 27, 2023, 03:42:06 AM
Its an interesting way to see the world.
And who is that?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 27, 2023, 09:54:02 AM
I was looking at this today - not a view I get that often.  More common if you have some boobs...
Don't leave us hangin', bro. Who is that?
Both random Reddit finds - had these two for a while. Sadly I don't have IDs for them. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 28, 2023, 02:18:15 AM
A new image for your delectation.

Following on from the theme of how they look for her - but how big is she?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 28, 2023, 10:47:57 AM
A new image for your delectation.

Following on from the theme of how they look for her - but how big is she?

Too difficult to tell. Probably up at 32G maybe?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 28, 2023, 11:21:06 AM
Too difficult to tell. Probably up at 32G maybe?
Yeah not the best image - I should have chosen something better.  I have a better one for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on March 28, 2023, 01:30:40 PM
Jeeez!

What do you reckon Karla's bra size was, Margaret? Because she is much bigger now!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 29, 2023, 01:20:13 AM
Jeeez!

What do you reckon Karla's bra size was, Margaret? Because she is much bigger now!


It looks like roughly a 53” overbust and maybe a 39” underbust - but it would help to see better pics of the measurements.

Depending on her leaning and lying measurements, you’re looking at something around the 40J/JJ - but possibly 40L.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2023, 02:15:41 AM
Jeeez!
Mind blowing...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2023, 02:21:06 AM
This pic of a woman in front of a mirror - hopefully is a good one for an estimate - I was thinking 32JJ?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2023, 03:19:34 AM
And a bonus question:

One of my favs Karin Spolnikova - do you agree with the 36G as stated below?

https://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Karin_Spolnikova (https://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Karin_Spolnikova)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 29, 2023, 11:43:19 AM
This pic of a woman in front of a mirror - hopefully is a good one for an estimate - I was thinking 32JJ?

Possibly 32JJ, but she’s low hanging, so perhaps 34J. But it’s there or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 29, 2023, 11:44:07 AM
And a bonus question:

One of my favs Karin Spolnikova - do you agree with the 36G as stated below?

https://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Karin_Spolnikova (https://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Karin_Spolnikova)

If she’s 5’5”, I’d say she’s more a 32F. She’s never a 36G in a month of Sundays.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
Possibly 32JJ, but she’s low hanging, so perhaps 34J. But it’s there or thereabouts.
I wasn't too far off then. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2023, 01:25:17 PM
If she’s 5’5”, I’d say she’s more a 32F. She’s never a 36G in a month of Sundays.
That is what I thought - just goes to show half the stuff you see on websites (especially adult ones) is often garbage.

I may have a look at some of the other models on Boobpedia as they often quote a bust size.  I suspect the stats are all bunkum.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 30, 2023, 07:44:27 AM
I may get shot for this Score image*

So the challenge here Margaret - you have to go out;  you realise you only have one pair of clean underwear... (oh no)   

So what bra (colour) do you go with?   


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Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 30, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
I may get shot for this Score image*

So the challenge here Margaret - you have to go out;  you realise you only have one pair of clean underwear... (oh no)   

So what bra (colour) do you go with?   


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While I do like red, I’d go for the lighter coloured one. It would work under most tops or dresses. Both look nice though. I have one red bra in my drawer, and I don’t think I’ve worn it in about ten years.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 31, 2023, 02:44:00 AM
While I do like red, I’d go for the lighter coloured one. It would work under most tops or dresses.
I didn't used to like red lingerie, but it is growing on me. I thought you'd go for the lighter one, as you say it won't show under a blouse.

Today's challenge:  I quite like these mirror pics as you get a better overview.  I'm going for 30G - what do you reckon?

PS, Although, maybe 28 band-size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on March 31, 2023, 05:07:05 AM
While I do like red, I’d go for the lighter coloured one. It would work under most tops or dresses.
I didn't used to like red lingerie, but it is growing on me. I thought you'd go for the lighter one, as you say it won't show under a blouse.

Today's challenge:  I quite like these mirror pics as you get a better overview.  I'm going for 30G - what do you reckon?

PS, Although, maybe 28 band-size.

It’s certainly close to 30G. I always draw a comparison with my own size (32FF), and I think I’m slightly bigger than this woman (both back size and boobs), but it’s there or thereabouts.

Before I forget - I liked your idea of correcting the stated sizes of the women on Boobpedia. I encountered that website a few years ago and laughed at some of the sizes given. They all need corrected - or, at least something that says “reported size of xxx - but more likely to be xxx”.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on March 31, 2023, 01:05:07 PM
It’s certainly close to 30G. I always draw a comparison with my own size (32FF), and I think I’m slightly bigger than this woman (both back size and boobs), but it’s there or thereabouts.
I did think FF for a bit, but went with the bigger size as I sometimes seem to under estimate.

Before I forget - I liked your idea of correcting the stated sizes of the women on Boobpedia.
I'll have another look at the site and pick another out for examination.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 01, 2023, 02:39:20 AM
Okay...

In a new series of challenges - I will be picking women from Boobpedia for inspection.

Today we have a fan favorite Roberta Pedon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Pedon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Pedon)

Not sure why her name came in to my head, but I thought she's be a worthy first.  Page stats say: 36-23-35in, 36F (80F)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 01, 2023, 02:40:29 AM
As a supplement.

The shoes - hit or miss?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 01, 2023, 06:44:09 AM
Okay...

In a new series of challenges - I will be picking women from Boobpedia for inspection.

Today we have a fan favorite Roberta Pedon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Pedon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Pedon)

Not sure why her name came in to my head, but I thought she's be a worthy first.  Page stats say: 36-23-35in, 36F (80F)

Hmm. 36F doesn’t seem quite right. If she is/was 5’7” then she’s naturally going to be slightly bigger in the back, but she doesn’t look like a 36. And if she was 36F, I’d expect her boobs to be slightly smaller. She seems big in the cups and slightly smaller in the back than that. I’d be thinking more like 32/34 back and something like 32GG or 34G.

I’d have to see more photos to be surer, but she’s definitely not 36F. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 01, 2023, 06:44:56 AM
As a supplement.

The shoes - hit or miss?

I am not a fan of open-toed shoes or sandals. I don’t like toes! Classic heels for me. All the way.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 01, 2023, 07:01:28 AM
I’d be thinking more like 32/34 back and something like 32GG or 34G.
I think that is a better estimate.  I'm going to have to create a document with all the new data on the models you've estimated.  There is a lot in the thread so far; not sure I'll go back and re-read it all - I'll just start with the new ones.

I’d have to see more photos to be surer, but she’s definitely not 36F.
Here's a few vids - https://www.freeones.com/videos?f%5Btags%5D=Roberta%20Pedon
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 01, 2023, 07:12:19 AM
I am not a fan of open-toed shoes or sandals. I don’t like toes! Classic heels for me. All the way.
It was the sparkly appearance that took my eye. I hadn't thought about them being open toed - I'm not a fan off sandals either, always stub my toes. 

I can't remember if I asked you about high heels before or not - I think I may.  I was looking at a few pics recently of some really high heels. I think women look great in them, it really shapes the calf.  But I wonder if there is a point and you'd say, nope, aint wearing them way too high?  Either at home or outside.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 01, 2023, 08:16:34 PM
I’d be thinking more like 32/34 back and something like 32GG or 34G.
I think that is a better estimate.  I'm going to have to create a document with all the new data on the models you've estimated.  There is a lot in the thread so far; not sure I'll go back and re-read it all - I'll just start with the new ones.

I’d have to see more photos to be surer, but she’s definitely not 36F.
Here's a few vids - https://www.freeones.com/videos?f%5Btags%5D=Roberta%20Pedon

Having seen the videos, I’m revising this to 32F/34FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 02, 2023, 03:01:55 AM
Having seen the videos, I’m revising this to 32F/34FF.
Seeing a video does give the best view - I find some pictures are a bit misleading at times, even if they're not doctored.

Today I have picked Ines Cudna for consideration - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ines_Cudna (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ines_Cudna)

The website says 34F - she has gained weight since her early modeling days and seems to do lingerie modeling now - but she still looks great, I actually prefer her look now if I was to be honest. Most of the pictures out there will be her early stuff. I saw a YouTube short recently of her doing lingerie, but I can never find things again once I lose them.  If I can find it I'll post a link as it'll be interesting to see how she has changed.

I've just found her Instagram account (I wont post the full link) inescudnamodel
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 02, 2023, 03:38:30 AM
Having seen the videos, I’m revising this to 32F/34FF.
Seeing a video does give the best view - I find some pictures are a bit misleading at times, even if they're not doctored.

Today I have picked Ines Cudna for consideration - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ines_Cudna (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ines_Cudna)

The website says 34F - she has gained weight since her early modeling days and seems to do lingerie modeling now - but she still looks great, I actually prefer her look now if I was to be honest. Most of the pictures out there will be her early stuff. I saw a YouTube short recently of her doing lingerie, but I can never find things again once I lose them.  If I can find it I'll post a link as it'll be interesting to see how she has changed.

I've just found her Instagram account (I wont post the full link) inescudnamodel

34F seems a reasonably good assessment, but I think she’s possibly more like a 32GG. It may just be the way she wears her bras, but she’ll be somewhere in that range.

Oh, and she’s beautiful! I really like her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 02, 2023, 12:01:57 PM
34F seems a reasonably good assessment, but I think she’s possibly more like a 32GG.
I will add that to the spreadsheet.

Oh, and she’s beautiful! I really like her.
She really is.  Ewa Sonnet and her were both models on the now deduct Busty.pl. 

Taking busty.pl - one of the other models of that era - Bea Flora - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Bea_Flora  The site says 34G - not sure that is right.  I can't believe she is 41 already.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 02, 2023, 01:18:17 PM
34F seems a reasonably good assessment, but I think she’s possibly more like a 32GG.
I will add that to the spreadsheet.

Oh, and she’s beautiful! I really like her.
She really is.  Ewa Sonnet and her were both models on the now deduct Busty.pl. 

Taking busty.pl - one of the other models of that era - Bea Flora - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Bea_Flora  The site says 34G - not sure that is right.  I can't believe she is 41 already.

She’s bigger than 34G, I think. Possibly 34HH, 32J.

I’m going to go with 34HH
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 02:36:09 AM
I’m going to go with 34HH
Okay cheers.  Who next.

I'm going to try to keep this to models we know think that are natural. 

A lady that came to mind yesterday is the prolific antipodean porn star Angela White - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Angela_White   34H?  I think that is about right - she looks bigger in other pictures, probably as her weight has fluctuated.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 03, 2023, 03:10:47 AM
I’m going to go with 34HH
Okay cheers.  Who next.

I'm going to try to keep this to models we know think that are natural. 

A lady that came to mind yesterday is the prolific antipodean porn star Angela White - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Angela_White   34H?  I think that is about right - she looks bigger in other pictures, probably as her weight has fluctuated.

From what I understand, she’s a very tiny lady - like, 5’3 or 5’2”. Even in heels she only gets to about 5’7”. So, she’s short, slim and slight of frame. I’m 5’5” and I’m slightly more “curvy” - but our boobs are about the same size. She also tends to wear one cup size smaller, to emphasise her boobs more.

She’s square in 30G/32FF territory. Possibly even 32F. I’m going to go for 32FF, due to the similarity with my own boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 04:19:54 AM
From what I understand, she’s a very tiny lady - like, 5’3 or 5’2”. Even in heels she only gets to about 5’7”.
I thought she was taller to be honest - boobs look bigger on smaller ladies.

She also tends to wear one cup size smaller, to emphasise her boobs more.
She probably wears something more comfortable when she is doing the shopping.

She’s square in 30G/32FF territory. Possibly even 32F. I’m going to go for 32FF, due to the similarity with my own boobs.
I shall mark her down as 32FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 04:43:48 AM
I was thinking about someone a bit taller this time.   So how about 5' 11" (my own height).
 
Eva Herzigova -  I well remember that billboard add with the Wonderbra.    https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Eva_Herzigova  32C? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 03, 2023, 11:14:27 AM
I was thinking about someone a bit taller this time.   So how about 5' 11" (my own height).
 
Eva Herzigova -  I well remember that billboard add with the Wonderbra.    https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Eva_Herzigova  32C?

I remember Eva well. And I also had a WonderBra (not very comfy, and pushed my boobs up way too high).

32C is usually really, really small. And, even though she’s 5’11”, she’s super-skinny. I suspect she’s more like a 28 or 30 back. And, probably slightly bigger in the cups than a C.

I’m going to hazard a guess at 28E or 30F. 

I’ll go in the middle with 30E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 11:51:07 AM
And I also had a WonderBra (not very comfy, and pushed my boobs up way too high).
They didn't look comfy - imagine to have to wear one of them for an evening out.   Can you still buy them in the shops?

I’ll go in the middle with 30E.
Okay, I shall note her as 30E.

I'm picking these women on a random basis - so as a model comes in to my head I shall look her up.  So that said: here we have Sensual Jane - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane

I love how they describe her pubic hair landing strip.  Do we think 34G is about right?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 03, 2023, 12:20:52 PM
And I also had a WonderBra (not very comfy, and pushed my boobs up way too high).
They didn't look comfy - imagine to have to wear one of them for an evening out.   Can you still buy them in the shops?

I’ll go in the middle with 30E.
Okay, I shall note her as 30E.

I'm picking these women on a random basis - so as a model comes in to my head I shall look her up.  So that said: here we have Sensual Jane - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane

I love how they describe her pubic hair landing strip.  Do we think 34G is about right?

Yep. 34FF/34G seems about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 12:53:57 PM
Yep. 34FF/34G seems about right.
I have six in my spreadsheet already.

One more today then:  Kelly Madison - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kelly_Madison

Another 34G?  This is almost like doing some proper research into boobs sizes - albeit a subset of the female population -  I wonder what the average size is likely to be.  We're already seeing a theme it seems. Or is that just my own bias - we'll see.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 03, 2023, 12:56:59 PM
So far then:

Ines Cudna    34F
Roberta Pedon    32GG or 34G.
Bea Flora    34HH
Angela White    32FF
Eva Herzigova    30E
Sensual Jane     34G
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 03, 2023, 01:55:23 PM
Yep. 34FF/34G seems about right.
I have six in my spreadsheet already.

One more today then:  Kelly Madison - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kelly_Madison

Another 34G?  This is almost like doing some proper research into boobs sizes - albeit a subset of the female population -  I wonder what the average size is likely to be.  We're already seeing a theme it seems. Or is that just my own bias - we'll see.

Definitely bigger than 34G. If she’s 5’9”, I’d expect her to be in the 34 back size bracket, possibly even 36 - but most likely 34. And big in the cups - easily up at H/HH, possibly even J.

I’m going to go for 34J, she’s broad, full-on bottom and broad shouldered.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 04, 2023, 04:01:41 AM
I’m going to go for 34J, she’s broad, full-on bottom and broad shouldered.
Okay thanks - she must have the most variation of stated size so far.  Although, I'm still not fully au fait with sister sizing yet.

I hadn't noticed the shoulders - yeah I see it now.

Following on from Kelly's J lets try an H...

Fiona Siciliano - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Fiona_Siciliano  Looking at her pictures, I'm unsure - with your keen eye what do you think?


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 04, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
I’m going to go for 34J, she’s broad, full-on bottom and broad shouldered.
Okay thanks - she must have the most variation of stated size so far.  Although, I'm still not fully au fait with sister sizing yet.

I hadn't noticed the shoulders - yeah I see it now.

Following on from Kelly's J lets try an H...

Fiona Siciliano - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Fiona_Siciliano  Looking at her pictures, I'm unsure - with your keen eye what do you think?

I’ve looked through a lot of photos of this lady and it seems she’s changed a lot as time as gone on. 28H isn’t impossible - but I’d be expecting slightly bigger boobs with more fullness.

However, it says she’s 5’4”, and she looks super-slim (certainly in older photos), and a bit more full in later pics. In earlier pics, I’d believe she was a 28 back, but she looks more like a 30 back now - and if she’s a 30 back, she’s never H (or GG). I’d think she’s more like a 30F, 30FF at a push. In later years, I’d be happy to accept she’s a 30G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 05, 2023, 01:56:27 AM
I’ve looked through a lot of photos of this lady and it seems she’s changed a lot as time as gone on. 28H isn’t impossible - but I’d be expecting slightly bigger boobs with more fullness.
Yep, one of the tricky things about assessing women's boobs is how much they can change.  I'm no expert, but having been round women long enough they can be up and down quite a bit.

but she looks more like a 30 back now - and if she’s a 30 back, she’s never H (or GG). I’d think she’s more like a 30F, 30FF at a push. In later years, I’d be happy to accept she’s a 30G.
In the Boobpedia pic she looks H (to me anyway), but in other photos she looks a lot smaller - 30G is what we'll go with.

Another Virgo today and moving up the band size a bit - Brandy Ryder - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Ryder (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Ryder) - 40G is what they state?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on April 07, 2023, 02:52:04 AM
Hello Margaret,
how about Paige British?
On boobpedia she is stated to be a 34G and beeing 5"3' tall, having 2300cc implants.
Think her size isn't correct on boobpedia as she looks way much bigger,
e.g. Kayla Kiss is listed as 34G with nearly the same hight (Kayla: 5"5'), but Kayla looks much smaller.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 07, 2023, 04:36:28 AM
I’ve looked through a lot of photos of this lady and it seems she’s changed a lot as time as gone on. 28H isn’t impossible - but I’d be expecting slightly bigger boobs with more fullness.
Yep, one of the tricky things about assessing women's boobs is how much they can change.  I'm no expert, but having been round women long enough they can be up and down quite a bit.

but she looks more like a 30 back now - and if she’s a 30 back, she’s never H (or GG). I’d think she’s more like a 30F, 30FF at a push. In later years, I’d be happy to accept she’s a 30G.
In the Boobpedia pic she looks H (to me anyway), but in other photos she looks a lot smaller - 30G is what we'll go with.

Another Virgo today and moving up the band size a bit - Brandy Ryder - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Ryder (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Ryder) - 40G is what they state?

Apologies - I’ve been unable to get logged in again.

40G seems about right for this lady.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 07, 2023, 04:40:46 AM
Hello Margaret,
how about Paige British?
On boobpedia she is stated to be a 34G and beeing 5"3' tall, having 2300cc implants.
Think her size isn't correct on boobpedia as she looks way much bigger,
e.g. Kayla Kiss is listed as 34G with nearly the same hight (Kayla: 5"5'), but Kayla looks much smaller.

Yes - 34G seems modest for this lady. She certainly seems to have a much smaller back than a 34 (I’m a 32 and in much bigger in the back). Possibly more like 26-28 (probably 28) and most likely something like 28H/HH.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 07, 2023, 01:46:40 PM
Apologies - I’ve been unable to get logged in again.
We kept the seat warm for you.

Okay then - going up the scale a bit.  Lilith Grant - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lovely_Lilith - 34N seems huge?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 08, 2023, 02:33:47 AM
Have we done Milena Velba - honestly I can't remember.  We haven't used the Boobpedia entry if we have. 

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milena_Velba (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milena_Velba)  38K, this has gotta be in the right ballpark?

She looks quite like someone I know (not the boobs)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 08, 2023, 04:24:43 PM
Apologies - I’ve been unable to get logged in again.
We kept the seat warm for you.

Okay then - going up the scale a bit.  Lilith Grant - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lovely_Lilith - 34N seems huge?

She’s never a 34N.

Maybe 32/34J?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 08, 2023, 04:28:58 PM
Have we done Milena Velba - honestly I can't remember.  We haven't used the Boobpedia entry if we have. 

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milena_Velba (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milena_Velba)  38K, this has gotta be in the right ballpark?

She looks quite like someone I know (not the boobs)

38 back seems a stretch (pardon the pun).

This is a short lady - she’s maybe a 34 back - but with (admittedly) huuge boobs. So, maybe 34k/KK.

I suspect this lady has done a lot of modelling work post-pregnancy; which would make her boobs seem unusually huge (I went from about 30FF to 34GG after my second baby, and I couldn’t quite comprehend it).

I have to say, she is soooo beautiful.

Does she still model?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 09, 2023, 01:55:34 AM
She’s never a 34N. Maybe 32/34J?
I thought N was a tad too big, nice to get a corroboration.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 09, 2023, 02:06:37 AM
I suspect this lady has done a lot of modelling work post-pregnancy; which would make her boobs seem unusually huge (I went from about 30FF to 34GG after my second baby, and I couldn’t quite comprehend it).
I think she has been one of those girls that always had big boobs - there is was a picture on her website of her as a teen - she was bigger than most of her age.  But the big growth spurt did happen after pregnancy.

From her site:

The strong physical appearance of my Mother gave me the impression that sooner or later I would have to deal with 2 big balls on my chest. Mother's breasts were so huge.

The tits came sooner than neccessary. As a young kid I was always playing with boys. I had more cars than dolls and my favourite playground was a big tank nearby our house. Things changed when my bodyshape became more and more female. Boys made jokes about my fast growing tits and on this schoolphoto you don't have to search long for 12 year old milena.


Does she still model?
I think she packed it in fairly recently - reportedly had a reduction. She is still one of my favs and always will be.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 09, 2023, 02:20:36 AM
Okay this is going to be a tricky one.  Karla's bust has really grown over time, so I'm not sure at what point we should take an estimation.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karla_James (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karla_James)  Boobpedia says 40O jeez...

I took this photo from the forum thread.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on April 09, 2023, 03:01:05 AM
Does she still model?


I think she packed it in fairly recently - reportedly had a reduction. She is still one of my favs and always will be.

As far as I can tell, she's still modeling, although a couple of years ago she was going to close her site down, but thankfully there was a reprieve.

I agree with Hiram that the triumvirate of Nadine Jansen, Milena Velba, and Miosotis are in my favorite models list, and always shall be.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 09, 2023, 04:31:07 AM
Okay this is going to be a tricky one.  Karla's bust has really grown over time, so I'm not sure at what point we should take an estimation.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karla_James (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karla_James)  Boobpedia says 40O jeez...

I took this photo from the forum thread.

I found her doing a measuring video from 2021, and her measurements came out as 38 back and 52 overbust. I’d have to know her leaning and lying measurements, but those numbers give me a bra size of about 38KK. Admittedly, that does seem modest given the size of her boobs, but I’d have to try her with a few bras to see what works - and I suspect she’d need something like a 38L.

It’s remarkable seeing photos of her when she was younger compared to now - the growth is almost certainly down to weight gain and hormones.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 09, 2023, 07:08:23 AM
So far then - this is how the data is looking.


Ines Cudna 
34
  F
Roberta Pedon 
34 
GG
Bea Flora 
34 
HH
Angela White 
32 
FF
Eva Herzigova 
30 
E
Sensual Jane 
34 
GG
Kelly Madison 
34 
J
Fiona Siciliano 
30 
G
Brandy Ryder 
40 
G
Lilith Grant 
34 
J
Milena Velba 
34 
KK
Karla James 
38 
L
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 09, 2023, 07:13:21 AM
When looking for someone else. 

Nilli Willis - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nilli_Willis

40F seems a bit wild, surely her band is a lot less than that?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 09, 2023, 10:04:01 AM
When looking for someone else. 

Nilli Willis - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nilli_Willis

40F seems a bit wild, surely her band is a lot less than that?

It does seem odd. Although, it says she’s 5’9”, so I’d expect her to have a slightly bigger back size. But she looks more like a 34FF/G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 10, 2023, 02:51:25 AM
But she looks more like a 34FF/G.
Thanks - I will make a note of that one.

Changing gears a bit - Vivian Blush - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Vivian_Blush  The site says 36K?   Not so sure myself.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 10, 2023, 06:05:25 AM
But she looks more like a 34FF/G.
Thanks - I will make a note of that one.

Changing gears a bit - Vivian Blush - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Vivian_Blush  The site says 36K?   Not so sure myself.

She’s not a million miles off it. I would say more like a 34/36JJ.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 10, 2023, 11:14:52 AM
Another Slavic woman.

Kira Liv - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kira_Liv (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kira_Liv) - 36M? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 10, 2023, 01:25:05 PM
Another Slavic woman.

Kira Liv - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kira_Liv (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kira_Liv) - 36M?

36M seems big. She’s tall and broad shouldered, so the 36 is about right. But she looks more like a 36K/KK. However, she presents as bigger in some photos I’ve seen - so perhaps M isn’t a stretch. Maybe more like 36L.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 11, 2023, 03:26:26 AM
Maybe more like 36L.
She's our first lady with a 36 band size.

So lets try a 28 band size - April O'Neill - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/April_O%27Neil

Site says 28E with remeasurements of 30DD-23-32 in.  I'm not sure how 30DD equals 28E to be honest (must be sister sizing)- she is 5' 1"


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 11, 2023, 05:24:04 AM
Maybe more like 36L.
She's our first lady with a 36 band size.

So lets try a 28 band size - April O'Neill - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/April_O%27Neil

Site says 28E with remeasurements of 30DD-23-32 in.  I'm not sure how 30DD equals 28E to be honest (must be sister sizing)- she is 5' 1"

If she’s 5’1”, then she’s tiny - and she looks as though she has a tiny back size. So, 26-28 back would be about right. But she has bigger cups than an E, so I’m going to say she’s in the range of 26-28FF. Let’s go with 28FF.

(30DD/28E is a sister sizing match - if you go up a band size, you go down a cup size, if you go down a band size, you go up a cup size).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 11, 2023, 06:43:20 AM
(30DD/28E is a sister sizing match - if you go up a band size, you go down a cup size, if you go down a band size, you go up a cup size).
I still find this hard to get my head round. 

In my mind - a bra measurement,  the number corresponds to the band size - the cup size being the difference between that and across the bust measurement.   I guess this is right, but when you need to go up a bit or down a bit you try a sister size. 

So, we don't have 38 band on our list. 

I have my doubts about the stats on Maria Whittaker are accurate, 38 band seems too big - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maria_Whittaker - 38E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 11, 2023, 08:40:12 AM
(30DD/28E is a sister sizing match - if you go up a band size, you go down a cup size, if you go down a band size, you go up a cup size).
I still find this hard to get my head round. 

In my mind - a bra measurement,  the number corresponds to the band size - the cup size being the difference between that and across the bust measurement.   I guess this is right, but when you need to go up a bit or down a bit you try a sister size. 

So, we don't have 38 band on our list. 

I have my doubts about the stats on Maria Whittaker are accurate, 38 band seems too big - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maria_Whittaker - 38E?

Remember three key things about bra fitting: the bands are only available in even-numbered sizes (28, 32, 38 and so on), but the bands have rows of hooks and eyes to compensate for variances in back sizes. Also, the bands have Lycra in them (most do, anyway), so that helps compensate. And, finally, when you move up or down a band/cup size either the band or the cup changes to compensate for the variance in size (eg. a smaller band with a bigger cup size, or a bigger band with a smaller cup).

As for Maria, here’s what I wrote before about her here on the BEA:

A beautiful woman, and along with Samantha Fox, another example of what was considered “big boobed” in the late 80s in the UK, but wouldn’t be now.

She would probably be a 32G or a 30GG now. It’s hard to tell her frame size, but I remember she did a nightclub tour of the UK in the 80s and visited a club where I lived in England at the time. All the boys were very excited to meet her. She signed photos and took pics with them, giving them a peck on the cheek. She was so glamorous and pretty up-close. And she seemed so tall as well - but she was wearing 4” white heels!

I’d say 30GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 11, 2023, 12:01:01 PM
Remember three key things about bra fitting: the bands are only available in even-numbered sizes (28, 32, 38 and so on)
Ah yes of course, I hadn't thought of that.

the bands have rows of hooks and eyes to compensate for variances in back sizes.
I hadn't really taken that in to consideration either.  I guess if I wore a bra I'd be more used to that idea.

Also, the bands have Lycra in them (most do, anyway), so that helps compensate.
Was it you that said that as a bra wears it will stretch - and the hooks at the back are to accommodate for that?

A beautiful woman, and along with Samantha Fox, another example of what was considered “big boobed” in the late 80s in the UK, but wouldn’t be now.
Indeed - I don't remember any ladies with really big busts back then, certainly not in my social circle.  Although, just had a flash memory of a very busty woman I met once.  But women like that were quite uncommon which is why I remember the encounter.

All the boys were very excited to meet her.
I would have been too.

I’d say 30GG.
I will note her as 30GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 11, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
On the theme of Page 3 girls.

Samantha Fox - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Samantha_Fox_(Page_3_girl) - 34D seems about right?

I know it is none of my business - but her sexual preference fascinates me, bearing in mind her sexual appeal back when she was on Page 3.  Great to see how we have moved on with these issues and that people can be themselves.  But if guys on the building site reading The Sun at tea break ever knew!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 12, 2023, 07:40:16 AM
A bit of a different one.

I was watching a video of Abbi Secraa taking off her bra and one thing stood out (no not that) - the red marks on her shoulder.   You can see this hurt as she rubs the marks once the bra is off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 12, 2023, 11:28:15 AM
On the theme of Page 3 girls.

Samantha Fox - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Samantha_Fox_(Page_3_girl) - 34D seems about right?

I know it is none of my business - but her sexual preference fascinates me, bearing in mind her sexual appeal back when she was on Page 3.  Great to see how we have moved on with these issues and that people can be themselves.  But if guys on the building site reading The Sun at tea break ever knew!

34D seems broad. In her heyday, she was (still is) tiny in height and with a slim back. I’d say she would be more like a 28F/FF.

I had totally forgotten about her coming out - it makes no odds to me. I’m just happy to see someone happy. I also forgot they she’s literally only a few years older than me. Her career started so early. She was a big star in the 80s.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 12, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
A bit of a different one.

I was watching a video of Abbi Secraa taking off her bra and one thing stood out (no not that) - the red marks on her shoulder.   You can see this hurt as she rubs the marks once the bra is off.

This woman is easily in the 34-36LL/M territory. Possibly bigger.

I get weal marks from my bras, so god only knows what it’s like for her. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like carrying around that much weight of boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 13, 2023, 02:31:02 AM
I get weal marks from my bras, so god only knows what it’s like for her. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like carrying around that much weight of boobs.
Definitely sore for her. 

Having had to wear a heavy backpack all day I can sympathise a bit.  Once you get a sore area its really painful.  Much as I am a fan of bigger ladies, you can also understand why they reduce.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 13, 2023, 02:55:17 AM
I’d say she would be more like a 28F/FF.
Okay, I shall note her as 28FF.

I’m just happy to see someone happy.
I agree completely.

I also forgot they she’s literally only a few years older than me.
Yeah she did start doing modelling quite young.  Nothing weird about this - In early 1983, sixteen-year-old Samantha Fox posed in her bedroom, wearing lingerie, while her mother Carole took pictures for The Sunday People newspaper'

To young people the 80's will be history - ha ha I love to tell young people how life was back then - no central heating, no internet, no daytime TV.   I had to walk to school...

Okay, getting back on track - as I brought her up, maybe we'd see what Boobpedia says - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Abbi_Secraa -
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 14, 2023, 03:19:51 AM
I’d say she would be more like a 28F/FF.
Okay, I shall note her as 28FF.

I’m just happy to see someone happy.
I agree completely.

I also forgot they she’s literally only a few years older than me.
Yeah she did start doing modelling quite young.  Nothing weird about this - In early 1983, sixteen-year-old Samantha Fox posed in her bedroom, wearing lingerie, while her mother Carole took pictures for The Sunday People newspaper'

To young people the 80's will be history - ha ha I love to tell young people how life was back then - no central heating, no internet, no daytime TV.   I had to walk to school...

Okay, getting back on track - as I brought her up, maybe we'd see what Boobpedia says - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Abbi_Secraa -

As I said above, this woman is easily in the 34-36LL/M territory. Possibly bigger.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 14, 2023, 03:34:35 AM
Today we have another favorite of mine.

Kerry Marie - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Marie (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Marie)  Site say's 34K?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 14, 2023, 06:22:30 AM
Today we have another favorite of mine.

Kerry Marie - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Marie (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Marie)  Site say's 34K?

I’m more inclined to think she’s something like a 34HH or 36H. K seems a stretch - I’d expect her to be bigger, like Leanne Crow, but she doesn’t have the same rounded fullness.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 14, 2023, 11:31:41 AM
I’m more inclined to think she’s something like a 34HH or 36H. K seems a stretch - I’d expect her to be bigger, like Leanne Crow, but she doesn’t have the same rounded fullness.
I thought K was likely too big - have we done Leanne, I've lost count of who we've done.

From Portsmouth to Prague.

Terry Nova - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Terry_Nova Site says 34H. That may be in the ballpark I think?


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 14, 2023, 01:27:14 PM
I’m more inclined to think she’s something like a 34HH or 36H. K seems a stretch - I’d expect her to be bigger, like Leanne Crow, but she doesn’t have the same rounded fullness.
I thought K was likely too big - have we done Leanne, I've lost count of who we've done.

From Portsmouth to Prague.

Terry Nova - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Terry_Nova Site says 34H. That may be in the ballpark I think?

I think that’s about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 15, 2023, 02:38:57 AM
I think that’s about right.
The first one Boobpedia has got right so far then.

Going back to Abbi for a sec - as I understand it the band does much of the work carrying the weight of breasts. So should the band be stiffer and less flexible - I can see why you'd want some flexibility for breathing, but I always think bra are too lightweight for the work they have to do.  I'm sure this is taken in to consideration when they make them, but maybe if you want support you need a granny type bra?

And, in her case, the straps were way too thin for that amount of weight - surely they'd need to be an inch thick to distribute that amount of weight without pressure points.

Over to British TV for this next one.  (and not the US conspiracy theorist by the same name)   And who knew she had big boobs!

Alex Jones - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alex_Jones (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alex_Jones) 30E seems legit?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 15, 2023, 03:15:35 AM
I think that’s about right.
The first one Boobpedia has got right so far then.

Going back to Abbi for a sec - as I understand it the band does much of the work carrying the weight of breasts. So should the band be stiffer and less flexible - I can see why you'd want some flexibility for breathing, but I always think bra are too lightweight for the work they have to do.  I'm sure this is taken in to consideration when they make them, but maybe if you want support you need a granny type bra?

And, in her case, the straps were way too thin for that amount of weight - surely they'd need to be an inch thick to distribute that amount of weight without pressure points.

Over to British TV for this next one.  (and not the US conspiracy theorist by the same name)   And who knew she had big boobs!

Alex Jones - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alex_Jones (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alex_Jones) 30E seems legit?

I couldn’t say for sure, but I think she’s going to be around 28F/30E.

In terms of Abbi - she’s just not wearing the right kind of bra for her band size and boob size. A bra for boobs that big will have a wide/tall band that works hard, and decent shoulder straps (the bigger the boobs, the bigger the bra).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 15, 2023, 05:46:50 AM
she’s just not wearing the right kind of bra for her band size and boob size.
I'm surprised they make them like that for bigger ladies.  It must be obvious that it is only going to wearable for a short time.

The attached pic is the what I had in mind - and front fastening.  Now this looks much more comfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 15, 2023, 06:09:59 AM
she’s just not wearing the right kind of bra for her band size and boob size.
I'm surprised they make them like that for bigger ladies.  It must be obvious that it is only going to wearable for a short time.

The attached pic is the what I had in mind - and front fastening.  Now this looks much more comfortable.

Hmmm. It *looks* like a bra, but I wouldn’t fancy wearing it. Shoulder straps look too wide, it looks restrictive too. Remember, your boobs want to be free - wearing a bra holds them in place. It’s a fine balancing act.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 15, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
Remember, your boobs want to be free - wearing a bra holds them in place. It’s a fine balancing act.
I guess it is both form, fit and function - I have seen some other (more traditional) bras with wider straps.  A woman's body is a tricky engineering challenge.  I just hate to think all these big busted ladies are uncomfortable.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 16, 2023, 03:01:36 AM
Okay staying in Wales.

Sarah Nicola Randall - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Nicola_Randall (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Nicola_Randall) - 32HH?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 16, 2023, 06:10:35 AM
Okay staying in Wales.

Sarah Nicola Randall - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Nicola_Randall (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Nicola_Randall) - 32HH?

32HH seems modest, but it’s not a million miles away. Give how small she is, I’m thinking 32 back doesn’t seem right. Possibly a 30J/JJ.

Can I also say, she is so beautiful too. I just admire these women so much.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 16, 2023, 07:15:48 AM
I hope you’re keeping track of all these?

I’d love to fit all these ladies - I’ve just been looking at more photos of Sarah Nicola (yes, I have a small crush), and I don’t think I’ve seen one single photo of her yet where she’s wearing a bra that properly fits her. Perhaps that’s the idea - but they generally look too small (or they’re the wrong style for her shape/projection).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 16, 2023, 11:28:38 AM
Can I also say, she is so beautiful too. I just admire these women so much.
I agree - my perspective is also an appreciation of the female body.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 16, 2023, 11:43:01 AM
I hope you’re keeping track of all these?
Yep, see attached.

I’d love to fit all these ladies
A lot of models seem to wear the wrong size - what we don't know is whether this is just for the pics or is that what they wear day-to-day.  I'd quite like to know that. 

I like it when you add what sort of bra you'd recommend.

I’ve seen one single photo of her yet where she’s wearing a bra that properly fits her. Perhaps that’s the idea - but they generally look too small (or they’re the wrong style for her shape/projection).
She seems to have really firm boobs, something I feel (haha yes) that varies a bit between women even of the same age.  I assume that isn't something that alters the fitting at all?


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 16, 2023, 11:48:45 AM
Staying with the Welsh theme.

Lorna Morgan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lorna_Morgan - 30K?  This seems okay - what is the sister sizing for that, I bet her band isn't 30.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 17, 2023, 12:55:04 PM
Staying with the Welsh theme.

Lorna Morgan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lorna_Morgan - 30K?  This seems okay - what is the sister sizing for that, I bet her band isn't 30.

I’ve seen this woman sell her old lingerie on eBay. She’s sold everything from 30G to 32J, which I assume has to do with pregnancy and weight gain/loss.

I’d say she’s there or thereabouts. Probably something like 30JJ.

Oh, and she is GORGEOUS.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 18, 2023, 03:49:01 AM
I’ve seen this woman sell her old lingerie on eBay.
Was she selling them as they are, or did she market them as fan merchandise?

She’s sold everything from 30G to 32J, which I assume has to do with pregnancy and weight gain/loss.  I’d say she’s there or thereabouts. Probably something like 30JJ.
Okay 30JJ is it.

Oh, and she is GORGEOUS.
She is indeed.

Moving north for this next one - Alexis May - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexis_May (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexis_May) (I love the Scottish accent)

From Boobpedia.

There seems to be some conflicting information given by both Alexis and other websites online about her infamous chest size.

For example, while discussing Scottish women as being naturally busty, she remarks with pride to Scoreland that she wears a 30FF bra, and that she has to special order her bras from catalogs. Her former site also indicates her bust size as 30G.[3]
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 18, 2023, 07:27:28 AM
I’ve seen this woman sell her old lingerie on eBay.
Was she selling them as they are, or did she market them as fan merchandise?

She’s sold everything from 30G to 32J, which I assume has to do with pregnancy and weight gain/loss.  I’d say she’s there or thereabouts. Probably something like 30JJ.
Okay 30JJ is it.

Oh, and she is GORGEOUS.
She is indeed.

Moving north for this next one - Alexis May - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexis_May (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexis_May) (I love the Scottish accent)

From Boobpedia.

There seems to be some conflicting information given by both Alexis and other websites online about her infamous chest size.

For example, while discussing Scottish women as being naturally busty, she remarks with pride to Scoreland that she wears a 30FF bra, and that she has to special order her bras from catalogs. Her former site also indicates her bust size as 30G.[3]


She sold them as-is (labels etc)

In terms of Alexis - I’ve never seen this woman before. I’d estimate her to be something like a 32E/F, maybe at a push a 30FF.

I’m a 32FF, and my boobs are much bigger than hers.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 18, 2023, 11:47:24 AM
In terms of Alexis - I’ve never seen this woman before. I’d estimate her to be something like a 32E/F, maybe at a push a 30FF.
I shall note her as a 32F   

I’m a 32FF, and my boobs are much bigger than hers.
Goodness gravy Margaret.  I should put you on the list!

Over to Italy now.  I used to work with an Italian and one useful phrase he taught me in Italian was mammella grande - he knew I liked big boobs.  I think we may have done Mady before, but we haven't cross-referenced with Boopedia on her size.  She isn't on my list so far.

Mady Gio - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Mady_Gio (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Mady_Gio) - site say's 36G - not sure how tall she is, but 36 band seems a tad big?

Edit: Just found the entry on Mady in this thread - at the time you said "I’m going to say 32J, but she could easily also be a 32H/HH too" Does that still stand?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 18, 2023, 12:11:21 PM
As we've covered Mady before I shall do another challenge for Margaret.

Virginia Bell - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Virginia_Bell - site just say's F, she looks way bigger to me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 18, 2023, 02:04:13 PM
In terms of Alexis - I’ve never seen this woman before. I’d estimate her to be something like a 32E/F, maybe at a push a 30FF.
I shall note her as a 32F   

I’m a 32FF, and my boobs are much bigger than hers.
Goodness gravy Margaret.  I should put you on the list!

Over to Italy now.  I used to work with an Italian and one useful phrase he taught me in Italian was mammella grande - he knew I liked big boobs.  I think we may have done Mady before, but we haven't cross-referenced with Boopedia on her size.  She isn't on my list so far.

Mady Gio - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Mady_Gio (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Mady_Gio) - site say's 36G - not sure how tall she is, but 36 band seems a tad big?

Edit: Just found the entry on Mady in this thread - at the time you said "I’m going to say 32J, but she could easily also be a 32H/HH too" Does that still stand?

Yes - go with that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 18, 2023, 02:05:25 PM
As we've covered Mady before I shall do another challenge for Margaret.

Virginia Bell - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Virginia_Bell - site just say's F, she looks way bigger to me.

She looks like a 32GG/H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 19, 2023, 03:46:23 AM
She looks like a 32GG/H.
Okay thanks...

I know I said I'd not do girls with implants, but I will divert for a sec and get you to estimate this lady.  Something came in to ny head last night about the first adult DVD I ever bought - and this woman was on it.

Montana Mounds - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Montana_Mounds (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Montana_Mounds) - 36F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 19, 2023, 12:07:28 PM
She looks like a 32GG/H.
Okay thanks...

I know I said I'd not do girls with implants, but I will divert for a sec and get you to estimate this lady.  Something came in to ny head last night about the first adult DVD I ever bought - and this woman was on it.

Montana Mounds - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Montana_Mounds (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Montana_Mounds) - 36F?

I’m happy to size the women with implants - they fascinate me the most!

I don’t think this lady is a 36 back - although, at 5’7”, she is reasonably taller than most of the women we’ve discussed. She has boobs around the F/FF scale, so I’m going to say 34FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 19, 2023, 07:08:14 PM
What's surprising to me is Montana Mounds never got a thread in the BEA.  Not even many mentions of her.  She's certainly stacked and pretty enough.   :o
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 20, 2023, 01:21:16 AM
What's surprising to me is Montana Mounds never got a thread in the BEA.  Not even many mentions of her.  She's certainly stacked and pretty enough.   :o

I’ve looked at more photos and she might be more like a 34GG. Her size seems to fluctuate across the years.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 20, 2023, 04:00:32 AM
I’m happy to size the women with implants - they fascinate me the most!
I've put Montana down as a 34GG.

Sadly no longer with us - but one of my favs - Joyce Gibson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joyce_Gibson (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joyce_Gibson) - 42F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 20, 2023, 04:11:47 AM
Another woman I've been thinking of.

Marilyn Lange - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marilyn_Lange (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marilyn_Lange) - 38F?


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 20, 2023, 11:29:59 AM
I’m happy to size the women with implants - they fascinate me the most!
I've put Montana down as a 34GG.

Sadly no longer with us - but one of my favs - Joyce Gibson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joyce_Gibson (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joyce_Gibson) - 42F?
If this lady is only 5’2” then there’s no way she’s a 42 back. I can’t even see her being a 42” chest either (although, I’m a 32FF and I’m a 39” chest). I reckon that’s where the 42 is coming from - it’s her overbust measurement. In which case, I reckon she’s possibly a 34 back and a G cup. So, possibly around 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 20, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
Another woman I've been thinking of.

Marilyn Lange - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marilyn_Lange (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marilyn_Lange) - 38F?

This is a tall (well, she’s tall to me) and a very beautiful lady. I’d expect her back size to be reasonably big, but not as much as 38. 34-36 at best. But I’d say 34, and possibly an F cup. So, 34F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 21, 2023, 02:11:00 AM
Thanks for Marilyn and Joyce...  Something about women of that era.

We have 27 women on the list now so I'd thought I would post the cup size chart.  I have a band size one too, but I can't figure out how to combine the two charts.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 21, 2023, 02:13:00 AM
Today's challenge and sticking with the 70's.

Janet Lupo - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janet_Lupo (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janet_Lupo) - 38F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 21, 2023, 10:12:12 AM
Today's challenge and sticking with the 70's.

Janet Lupo - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janet_Lupo (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janet_Lupo) - 38F?

That’s a skinny lady.

There’s no chance she’s a 38F. I think the measurement of 39 is her overbust size, which - based on what I’m seeing - would make her roughly a 32F (32” back and 7” for the boobs). However, she looks much smaller than a 32 back. More like a 28 or a 30.

In which case, I reckon she’s a 28GG or a 30G.

She has a very similar bodyshape and boobs shape to Danni Ashe (I reckon Danni is a 32FF), but with a much smaller back.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 21, 2023, 10:18:01 AM
Thanks for Marilyn and Joyce...  Something about women of that era.

We have 27 women on the list now so I'd thought I would post the cup size chart.  I have a band size one too, but I can't figure out how to combine the two charts.

I’m not sure how you could go about this.

Bra charts often look something like this.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 21, 2023, 11:42:30 AM
In which case, I reckon she’s a 28GG or a 30G.
I hadn't noticed her slim band - I've just been looking at some other pics and now you've pointed it out I can see it.

She has a very similar bodyshape and boobs shape to Danni Ashe (I reckon Danni is a 32FF), but with a much smaller back.
Both have fantastic figures.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 21, 2023, 11:48:06 AM
I’m not sure how you could go about this.
Its just a chart showing all the women you've estimated so far - just a visual representation of the data.

Bra charts often look something like this.
Thanks for the chart, it shows the sister sizing quite well.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 21, 2023, 11:52:50 AM
Another favorite of mine.

September Carrino - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/September_Carrino - 34K seems about right - what do you think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 22, 2023, 03:14:53 AM
Another favorite of mine.

September Carrino - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/September_Carrino - 34K seems about right - what do you think?

She’s only 5’3” and quite slim, so I don’t know where 34K is coming from.

Also, she’s one of those models who does a lot of back arching and projecting her upper torso, so she’s always going to give an impression of huge, rounded boobs. However, she’s a stunningly beautiful lady, with absolutely huge boobs for her size.

I did a bit of digging and found a measuring video which gave 28 for her underbust and 38 for her overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying measurements, that’s going to give me a 28GG/H. But I’m going to diverge slightly here - because every photo I see of her tells me to try a 28J. I would really only know for sure if I could try her with some bras. Also, I found her on social media, and the current photos of her look as though she’s either had a reduction, is doing a good job of minimising - or, just doesn’t pose as much to over-emphasise her shape.

Edit: actually, I looked closer at her social media. I don’t think she’s had a reduction - so I’m going to stick with 28J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 22, 2023, 05:07:12 AM
Also, she’s one of those models who does a lot of back arching and projecting her upper torso, so she’s always going to give an impression of huge, rounded boobs.
I can understand why she does that for the camera.  I must admit you see things I completely miss in these pics.  I often never think about a models height, I do tend to think of them taller than they are actually.

However, she’s a stunningly beautiful lady, with absolutely huge boobs for her size.
Agreed.

I did a bit of digging and found a measuring video which gave 28 for her underbust and 38 for her overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying measurements, that’s going to give me a 28GG/H. But I’m going to diverge slightly here - because every photo I see of her tells me to try a 28J. I would really only know for sure if I could try her with some bras. Also, I found her on social media, and the current photos of her look as though she’s either had a reduction, is doing a good job of minimising - or, just doesn’t pose as much to over-emphasise her shape.
I'm just having a look at the chart you posted yesterday.  That one doesn't show 28J so I guess 28J would be something like a 30GG? 

I wonder if the reductions is weight loss - Stacey Poole's boobs changed somewhat after she lost weight.   Mind you, I'd want to reduction if I had 28J boobs.

And, am I right in thinking no 'I' in any bra chart?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 22, 2023, 05:10:26 AM
Okay - the next challenger.

Brandy Talore - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Talore (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Talore) - same 5 ft 3 in as September, but reportedly 36F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 22, 2023, 05:47:03 AM
Also, she’s one of those models who does a lot of back arching and projecting her upper torso, so she’s always going to give an impression of huge, rounded boobs.
I can understand why she does that for the camera.  I must admit you see things I completely miss in these pics.  I often never think about a models height, I do tend to think of them taller than they are actually.

However, she’s a stunningly beautiful lady, with absolutely huge boobs for her size.
Agreed.

I did a bit of digging and found a measuring video which gave 28 for her underbust and 38 for her overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying measurements, that’s going to give me a 28GG/H. But I’m going to diverge slightly here - because every photo I see of her tells me to try a 28J. I would really only know for sure if I could try her with some bras. Also, I found her on social media, and the current photos of her look as though she’s either had a reduction, is doing a good job of minimising - or, just doesn’t pose as much to over-emphasise her shape.
I'm just having a look at the chart you posted yesterday.  That one doesn't show 28J so I guess 28J would be something like a 30GG? 

I wonder if the reductions is weight loss - Stacey Poole's boobs changed somewhat after she lost weight.   Mind you, I'd want to reduction if I had 28J boobs.

And, am I right in thinking no 'I' in any bra chart?

I think it was just that chart. 28J/JJ does exist (I’ve fitted women for them).

Yep - there’s no ‘I’ bra.

For UK it goes:

A
B
C
D
DD
E
F
FF
G
GG
H
HH
J
JJ
K
KK
L
LL
M

I’ve never fitter anyone beyond an M, and even then I just advised they bought it online from a specialist.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 22, 2023, 11:30:39 AM
Yep - there’s no ‘I’ bra.
I wonder why though, it isn't like 'I' would be confused with one in this context.  What about US or EU bras, do they have an 'I'?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 23, 2023, 02:43:40 AM
Yep - there’s no ‘I’ bra.
I wonder why though, it isn't like 'I' would be confused with one in this context.  What about US or EU bras, do they have an 'I'?

I’ve never managed to find out why there’s no ‘I’, but I suspect it’s for similar reasons that there’s no I in UK car plates - because it looks like a 1. So you would have a 32I etc.

From what I can tell, I exists in some bra sizing, but not often. It’s simpler to think of charts without them.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 23, 2023, 05:18:15 AM
I’ve never managed to find out why there’s no ‘I’, but I suspect it’s for similar reasons that there’s no I in UK car plates - because it looks like a 1. So you would have a 32I etc.
I guess ther'd be no 'O' for the same reason?

Today for the challenge we have the legend that is:

Christina Lucci - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christina_Lucci (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christina_Lucci) - 34E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 23, 2023, 05:21:59 AM
I’ve never managed to find out why there’s no ‘I’, but I suspect it’s for similar reasons that there’s no I in UK car plates - because it looks like a 1. So you would have a 32I etc.
I guess ther'd be no 'O' for the same reason?

Today for the challenge we have the legend that is:

Christina Lucci - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christina_Lucci (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christina_Lucci) - 34E?

What a beautiful lady.

She’s 5’3”, so a 34 back seems a stretch. She looks more like a 32F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 23, 2023, 07:15:02 AM
What a beautiful lady.She’s 5’3”, so a 34 back seems a stretch. She looks more like a 32F.
She was everywhere back in the mid 2000's. 

The tread here starts in 2002.  https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=38795.msg38795#msg38795 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=38795.msg38795#msg38795)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 24, 2023, 06:53:08 AM
What a beautiful lady.She’s 5’3”, so a 34 back seems a stretch. She looks more like a 32F.
She was everywhere back in the mid 2000's. 

The tread here starts in 2002.  https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=38795.msg38795#msg38795 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=38795.msg38795#msg38795)

She’s really changed. But then, we all change. She still has a beautiful glint in her eye.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 24, 2023, 12:12:20 PM
But then, we all change.
Yep, [sigh]

Okay - today we have Sensual Jane (I don't think her name is really Jane)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane) - 34G seems legit?  Just noticed they quote a weight, 60kg (132 lbs),  its probably nonsense.   But I was just thinking, women with bigger boobs are going to be heavier than flat chested women surely?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 25, 2023, 01:43:58 AM
But then, we all change.
Yep, [sigh]

Okay - today we have Sensual Jane (I don't think her name is really Jane)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sensual_Jane) - 34G seems legit?  Just noticed they quote a weight, 60kg (132 lbs),  its probably nonsense.   But I was just thinking, women with bigger boobs are going to be heavier than flat chested women surely?

32/34G seems about right.

The bigger the boobs, the more weight you’re carrying around - but it’s a difficult thing to define without complex maths/physics.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 25, 2023, 02:29:16 AM
32/34G seems about right.
Okay thanks.

The bigger the boobs, the more weight you’re carrying around - but it’s a difficult thing to define without complex maths/physics.
On the bra size wiki there is a section on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size)

For your size 34FF it states your breasts would be 1.8kg.  That weight is going to be noticeable I reckon, especially as you boobs aren't distributed about your body.  A women with 38J is going to be carrying over 5kg! It just goes to show how important a bra is to a woman who is bigger.

As it is her birthday today I thought we should do this Ecuadorian model Antonella Kahllo

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Antonella_Kahllo (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Antonella_Kahllo)

32K @ 4.8kg
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 25, 2023, 03:43:24 AM
https://news.sky.com/story/wearing-correct-sports-bra-can-improve-running-performance-by-up-to-7-research-suggests-12862585 (https://news.sky.com/story/wearing-correct-sports-bra-can-improve-running-performance-by-up-to-7-research-suggests-12862585)

Wearing the correct sports bra may increase running performance by up to 7%, according to a new study.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 25, 2023, 05:28:38 AM
32/34G seems about right.
Okay thanks.

The bigger the boobs, the more weight you’re carrying around - but it’s a difficult thing to define without complex maths/physics.
On the bra size wiki there is a section on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size)

For your size 34FF it states your breasts would be 1.8kg.  That weight is going to be noticeable I reckon, especially as you boobs aren't distributed about your body.  A women with 38J is going to be carrying over 5kg! It just goes to show how important a bra is to a woman who is bigger.

As it is her birthday today I thought we should do this Ecuadorian model Antonella Kahllo

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Antonella_Kahllo (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Antonella_Kahllo)

32K @ 4.8kg

Oh my, she’s beautiful.

32K doesn’t seem too off the mark. And I’m seeing a lot of Curvy Kate bras in her photos, so she’s probably been measured/fitted at some point. She’s possibly 32KK (sometimes her bras look slightly too tight). But she’s big (boobs-wise at least - she’s teeny-tiny in height).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 25, 2023, 11:57:36 AM
Oh my, she’s beautiful.
South American women certainly have that extra special ingredient.

She’s possibly 32KK (sometimes her bras look slightly too tight). But she’s big (boobs-wise at least - she’s teeny-tiny in height).
I shall put her down as a 32KK.

Okay closer to home for this next one - Joey Fisher.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joey_Fisher (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joey_Fisher) - 32H

She has quite rare green eyes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 25, 2023, 12:02:16 PM
Oh my, she’s beautiful.
South American women certainly have that extra special ingredient.

She’s possibly 32KK (sometimes her bras look slightly too tight). But she’s big (boobs-wise at least - she’s teeny-tiny in height).
I shall put her down as a 32KK.

Okay closer to home for this next one - Joey Fisher.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joey_Fisher (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Joey_Fisher) - 32H

She has quite rare green eyes.

I think 32H is a stretch. She is tall, but I’d be thinking more 32G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 26, 2023, 05:03:02 AM
I think 32H is a stretch. She is tall, but I’d be thinking more 32G.
Thanks.

Today I thought I'd try a different body type.

Juliana Simms - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Juliana_Simms (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Juliana_Simms) - 40F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 26, 2023, 11:19:54 AM
I think 32H is a stretch. She is tall, but I’d be thinking more 32G.
Thanks.

Today I thought I'd try a different body type.

Juliana Simms - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Juliana_Simms (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Juliana_Simms) - 40F?

It’s definitely going to be up in the 38/40 back size, but I’m not sure about F for the cups. I found a photo of her measuring and her overbust is 49”. If she was a 40 back, she would be FF/G, which makes me think it’s more like 40G. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 26, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
Cheers for the 40G. 

Not sure if we've done Yulia Nova before - she isn't on my spreadsheet

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Yulia_Nova

This is the sort of Russkiy Mir I can support.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 27, 2023, 02:18:55 AM
Cheers for the 40G. 

Not sure if we've done Yulia Nova before - she isn't on my spreadsheet

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Yulia_Nova

This is the sort of Russkiy Mir I can support.

I’d love to know how they arrive at these figures.

She’s 5’6”, so I don’t think she’s going to have a big back size - certainly not 34.

And her boobs look big, with a lot of projection and west-east set.

I’d be thinking she was more like a 30GG/H.

See attached for what a 30H looks like.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 27, 2023, 02:33:13 AM
I’d love to know how they arrive at these figures.
That's why we do this vital work - righting the wrongs of the Internet!

And her boobs look big, with a lot of projection and west-east set.
Okay, this is a new term?

I’d be thinking she was more like a 30GG/H.
Thanks for the comparison pic. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 27, 2023, 02:37:34 AM
Okay then - the next contestant.

Petra Verkaik.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Petra_Verkaik

The site says 32I (I didn't think there was an 'I') I feel this may be wrong?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 27, 2023, 05:28:37 AM
Okay then - the next contestant.

Petra Verkaik.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Petra_Verkaik

The site says 32I (I didn't think there was an 'I') I feel this may be wrong?

I don’t know where they’re getting that from. 32 is probably about right, given her height. But, I’d say she’s probably a 32G, maybe GG at a push.

In terms of above, west-east is how some women describe how their boobs are set (each boob points a little bit to the west and east). East-west is rare. Some boobs are “low set” - meaning they hang or droop (or the roots are slightly lower down the torso). Then you get full-on-top - where your boobs have a rounded shape at the top of the boobs, or full-on-bottom, where most of the tissue and weight is on the underside. Some women are high set, where their boobs are quite rounded and nearer the top of their torso. Some women are close set, where their boobs sit tightly together in the middle - some women are wide-set, where their boobs are quite far apart (this often happens with implants). And then you have a load of other descriptions (mostly just unofficial or anecdotal) to describe boob shape (often based on fruit) - and there’s also descriptions of nipples that vary too (dinner plates, 45’ record, compact disc, perky, inverted, protruding, volume knob, cleat, soccer stud, light switch, pacifier etc etc etc).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on April 27, 2023, 08:03:46 AM
Okay then - the next contestant.

Petra Verkaik.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Petra_Verkaik

The site says 32I (I didn't think there was an 'I') I feel this may be wrong?

I don’t know where they’re getting that from. 32 is probably about right, given her height. But, I’d say she’s probably a 32G, maybe GG at a push.

In terms of above, west-east is how some women describe how their boobs are set (each boob points a little bit to the west and east). East-west is rare. Some boobs are “low set” - meaning they hang or droop (or the roots are slightly lower down the torso). Then you get full-on-top - where your boobs have a rounded shape at the top of the boobs, or full-on-bottom, where most of the tissue and weight is on the underside. Some women are high set, where their boobs are quite rounded and nearer the top of their torso. Some women are close set, where their boobs sit tightly together in the middle - some women are wide-set, where their boobs are quite far apart (this often happens with implants). And then you have a load of other descriptions (mostly just unofficial or anecdotal) to describe boob shape (often based on fruit) - and there’s also descriptions of nipples that vary too (dinner plates, 45’ record, compact disc, perky, inverted, protruding, volume knob, cleat, soccer stud, light switch, pacifier etc etc etc).

I saw this post and noticed that it is number 666 for Margaret and I hope that doesn't presage something bad.  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 27, 2023, 09:33:16 AM
Okay then - the next contestant.

Petra Verkaik.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Petra_Verkaik

The site says 32I (I didn't think there was an 'I') I feel this may be wrong?

I don’t know where they’re getting that from. 32 is probably about right, given her height. But, I’d say she’s probably a 32G, maybe GG at a push.

In terms of above, west-east is how some women describe how their boobs are set (each boob points a little bit to the west and east). East-west is rare. Some boobs are “low set” - meaning they hang or droop (or the roots are slightly lower down the torso). Then you get full-on-top - where your boobs have a rounded shape at the top of the boobs, or full-on-bottom, where most of the tissue and weight is on the underside. Some women are high set, where their boobs are quite rounded and nearer the top of their torso. Some women are close set, where their boobs sit tightly together in the middle - some women are wide-set, where their boobs are quite far apart (this often happens with implants). And then you have a load of other descriptions (mostly just unofficial or anecdotal) to describe boob shape (often based on fruit) - and there’s also descriptions of nipples that vary too (dinner plates, 45’ record, compact disc, perky, inverted, protruding, volume knob, cleat, soccer stud, light switch, pacifier etc etc etc).

I saw this post and noticed that it is number 666 for Margaret and I hope that doesn't presage something bad.  :o ;) ;D

As long as it’s not some ridiculous bra size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 27, 2023, 11:47:59 AM
In terms of above, west-east is how some women describe how their boobs are set (each boob points a little bit to the west and east).
Jeez, I had no idea - like the Eskimos have lots of words for snow.   It is fascinating to hear how many types of boobs there are (yes, I've seen a lot of variation) but I didn't know you ladies had a term for each type.

East-west is rare. Some boobs are “low set” - meaning they hang or droop (or the roots are slightly lower down the torso). Then you get full-on-top - where your boobs have a rounded shape at the top of the boobs, or full-on-bottom, where most of the tissue and weight is on the underside.
Where possible I wonder if you could illustrate that with some of the models we estimate.  Only if you feel a distinct feature as described above with that individual. 

Some women are high set, where their boobs are quite rounded and nearer the top of their torso. Some women are close set, where their boobs sit tightly together in the middle - some women are wide-set, where their boobs are quite far apart (this often happens with implants). And then you have a load of other descriptions (mostly just unofficial or anecdotal) to describe boob shape (often based on fruit)
The only description I can recall a woman using to describe a type of breast is ski slope shape - where the profile exhibits a ski slope type shape.

and there’s also descriptions of nipples that vary too (dinner plates, 45’ record, compact disc, perky, inverted, protruding, volume knob, cleat, soccer stud, light switch, pacifier etc etc etc).
I am trying to picture each type in my head as I read - some I can identify, and other not so - pacifier?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 27, 2023, 01:08:51 PM
In terms of above, west-east is how some women describe how their boobs are set (each boob points a little bit to the west and east).
Jeez, I had no idea - like the Eskimos have lots of words for snow.   It is fascinating to hear how many types of boobs there are (yes, I've seen a lot of variation) but I didn't know you ladies had a term for each type.

East-west is rare. Some boobs are “low set” - meaning they hang or droop (or the roots are slightly lower down the torso). Then you get full-on-top - where your boobs have a rounded shape at the top of the boobs, or full-on-bottom, where most of the tissue and weight is on the underside.
Where possible I wonder if you could illustrate that with some of the models we estimate.  Only if you feel a distinct feature as described above with that individual. 

Some women are high set, where their boobs are quite rounded and nearer the top of their torso. Some women are close set, where their boobs sit tightly together in the middle - some women are wide-set, where their boobs are quite far apart (this often happens with implants). And then you have a load of other descriptions (mostly just unofficial or anecdotal) to describe boob shape (often based on fruit)
The only description I can recall a woman using to describe a type of breast is ski slope shape - where the profile exhibits a ski slope type shape.

and there’s also descriptions of nipples that vary too (dinner plates, 45’ record, compact disc, perky, inverted, protruding, volume knob, cleat, soccer stud, light switch, pacifier etc etc etc).
I am trying to picture each type in my head as I read - some I can identify, and other not so - pacifier?

Of course. I’ll add these descriptions as I go.

Pacifier = nipples that look like a **09**’s pacifier (a “dummy” in UK-speak).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 28, 2023, 02:36:55 AM
Pacifier = nipples that look like a **09**’s pacifier (a “dummy” in UK-speak).
Ah got it - and I never knew that a pacifier was a dummy.

Okay, back to some estimates.

Valory Irene (Slava Ukraini)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Valory_Irene

The site says 34G - I think she could be bigger than that to honest. And ah, some of the nipples you mentioned.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 29, 2023, 12:04:53 PM
Okay - the next challenger is:

Taylor Stevens.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Taylor_Stevens - 36I (nope)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 30, 2023, 10:38:04 AM
Pacifier = nipples that look like a **09**’s pacifier (a “dummy” in UK-speak).
Ah got it - and I never knew that a pacifier was a dummy.

Okay, back to some estimates.

Valory Irene (Slava Ukraini)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Valory_Irene

The site says 34G - I think she could be bigger than that to honest. And ah, some of the nipples you mentioned.

34GG/H maybe?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 30, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Okay - the next challenger is:

Taylor Stevens.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Taylor_Stevens - 36I (nope)

There doesn’t seem to be any consistency in this lady’s weight, so it’s hard to determine what her (current) size is. It could be anything. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 30, 2023, 11:03:31 AM
There doesn’t seem to be any consistency in this lady’s weight, so it’s hard to determine what her (current) size is. It could be anything.
Fair point - her weight has fluctuated quite a bit. Tricky to get a measure on her size.

As we don't have a K cup yet on our list (KK not K) I thought I'd find a model that reports to have a K cupped bra.

Alexsis Faye.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexsis_Faye

38K - not sure myself.
 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on April 30, 2023, 11:06:19 AM
So far then:

Ines Cudna
34
F
Roberta Pedon
34
GG
Bea Flora
34
HH
Angela White
32
FF
Eva Herzigova
30
E
Sensual Jane
34
GG
Kelly Madison
34
J
Fiona Siciliano
30
G
Brandy Ryder
40
G
Lilith Grant
34
J
Milena Velba
34
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
April O'Neill
28
FF
Maria Whittaker
30
GG
Sam Fox
28
FF
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Kerry Marie
36
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Alex Jones
30
E
Sarah Nicola Randall   
30
JJ
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Alexis May
32
F
Mady Gio
32
HH
Virginia Bell
32
GG
Montana Mounds
34
GG
Joyce Gibson
34
G
Marilyn Lange
34
F
Janet Lupo
30
G
September  Carrino
28
J
Christina Lucci
32
F
Sensual Jane
34
G
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Joey Fisher.
32
G
Juliana Simms
40
G
Yulia Nova
30
H
Petra Verkaik.
32
G
Valory Irene
34
GG
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 01, 2023, 01:55:32 AM
There doesn’t seem to be any consistency in this lady’s weight, so it’s hard to determine what her (current) size is. It could be anything.
Fair point - her weight has fluctuated quite a bit. Tricky to get a measure on her size.

As we don't have a K cup yet on our list (KK not K) I thought I'd find a model that reports to have a K cupped bra.

Alexsis Faye.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alexsis_Faye

38K - not sure myself.

She’s big, but I don’t think she’s a 38K. Possibly more like a 36HH. If she was a K, I’d be expecting boobs almost the size of Leanne Crow or Rachel Aldana.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 01, 2023, 01:56:58 AM
So far then:

Ines Cudna
34
F
Roberta Pedon
34
GG
Bea Flora
34
HH
Angela White
32
FF
Eva Herzigova
30
E
Sensual Jane
34
GG
Kelly Madison
34
J
Fiona Siciliano
30
G
Brandy Ryder
40
G
Lilith Grant
34
J
Milena Velba
34
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
April O'Neill
28
FF
Maria Whittaker
30
GG
Sam Fox
28
FF
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Kerry Marie
36
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Alex Jones
30
E
Sarah Nicola Randall   
30
JJ
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Alexis May
32
F
Mady Gio
32
HH
Virginia Bell
32
GG
Montana Mounds
34
GG
Joyce Gibson
34
G
Marilyn Lange
34
F
Janet Lupo
30
G
September  Carrino
28
J
Christina Lucci
32
F
Sensual Jane
34
G
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Joey Fisher.
32
G
Juliana Simms
40
G
Yulia Nova
30
H
Petra Verkaik.
32
G
Valory Irene
34
GG

34G looking popular.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 01, 2023, 05:03:57 AM
34G looking popular.
Yeah it is shaping up that way - obviously this isn't a representation of the general population, but still, interesting.

Okay, trying to find a K cup.

Alicia Loren

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alicia_Loren

38K?  This seems fairly realistic, and she 5' 8"
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 01, 2023, 08:00:19 AM
34G looking popular.
Yeah it is shaping up that way - obviously this isn't a representation of the general population, but still, interesting.

Okay, trying to find a K cup.

Alicia Loren

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alicia_Loren

38K?  This seems fairly realistic, and she 5' 8"

Yep. Definitely in K/KK possibly even L territory. 38 seems about right too. I’d go for 38K. She is quite low set - so once the boobs are in the cups and lifted, a K would probably work.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 02, 2023, 03:11:47 AM
I’d go for 38K. She is quite low set - so once the boobs are in the cups and lifted, a K would probably work.
Our first K cup. 

I guess the idea of measuring when a woman is leaning forward is to compensate for having a low set?

I thought I'd balance the list a bit with a lady with a smaller bust. 

Amanda Davidson

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Davidson (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Davidson)

34C seems okay, we have no height info though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 02, 2023, 06:31:37 AM
I’d go for 38K. She is quite low set - so once the boobs are in the cups and lifted, a K would probably work.
Our first K cup. 

I guess the idea of measuring when a woman is leaning forward is to compensate for having a low set?

I thought I'd balance the list a bit with a lady with a smaller bust. 

Amanda Davidson

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Davidson (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Davidson)

34C seems okay, we have no height info though.

If she’s a 34 back, then she’s going to be more like a 34E, but I think she’s more like a 28F. 

In terms of measuring, yes - you get a leaning bust because low set boobs can be deceptive. You sometimes find that boobs which look flat all of a sudden assume a huge amount of volume when you pop them into the cups and they round out.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 02, 2023, 12:14:47 PM

If she’s a 34 back, then she’s going to be more like a 34E, but I think she’s more like a 28F. 
Cheers I will put her down as a 28F.

In terms of measuring, yes - you get a leaning bust because low set boobs can be deceptive. You sometimes find that boobs which look flat all of a sudden assume a huge amount of volume when you pop them into the cups and they round out.
That must be weird experience for women, where your boobs, albeit the same volume can look and probably feel quite different depending on the bra.

Next on the list is:

Abigail Ratchford (Another green eyed beauty)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Abigail_Ratchford

36E - 5' 8" so quite tall.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 02, 2023, 01:57:53 PM

If she’s a 34 back, then she’s going to be more like a 34E, but I think she’s more like a 28F. 
Cheers I will put her down as a 28F.

In terms of measuring, yes - you get a leaning bust because low set boobs can be deceptive. You sometimes find that boobs which look flat all of a sudden assume a huge amount of volume when you pop them into the cups and they round out.
That must be weird experience for women, where your boobs, albeit the same volume can look and probably feel quite different depending on the bra.

Next on the list is:

Abigail Ratchford (Another green eyed beauty)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Abigail_Ratchford

36E - 5' 8" so quite tall.

I don’t think she’s a 36 back. 34, at a push. Probably 32. And probably around 32/34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 03, 2023, 03:26:30 AM
Okay then - the next customer.

Devin Brugman

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Devin_Brugman (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Devin_Brugman)

32F - I'm thinking this is not far off.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 03, 2023, 03:53:16 AM
Okay then - the next customer.

Devin Brugman

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Devin_Brugman (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Devin_Brugman)

32F - I'm thinking this is not far off.

Goodness, she’s beautiful. 32 back doesn’t seem right - she’s tall and slim. I’d be thinking more 28 back, probably something like a 28FF.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 04, 2023, 02:51:56 AM
Goodness, she’s beautiful. 32 back doesn’t seem right - she’s tall and slim. I’d be thinking more 28 back, probably something like a 28FF.
Yeah she is - okay 28FF it is

Okay the next contestant.

Bella Brewer - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Bella_Brewer - 34K - maybe.  She is (although this website is unreliable) 82kg, I think she maybe broader than 34.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 04, 2023, 08:02:47 AM
Goodness, she’s beautiful. 32 back doesn’t seem right - she’s tall and slim. I’d be thinking more 28 back, probably something like a 28FF.
Yeah she is - okay 28FF it is

Okay the next contestant.

Bella Brewer - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Bella_Brewer - 34K - maybe.  She is (although this website is unreliable) 82kg, I think she maybe broader than 34.

Yeah. She’s possibly more like 34J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 05, 2023, 04:02:48 AM
Yeah. She’s possibly more like 34J.
Cheers.

The list is lacking smaller ladies, I don't have anyone in the C and D category.  Although to be honest I can't think of any.  So I suspect I will keep with the current arrangement.

Okay today then, something different - for non UK readers this lady is a national weather forecaster.   I think she looks quite busty on TV,  I have been meaning to add her to the challenge every time I see the weather forcast. We have no data for her size that I can see.  So I wonder how big she is?

Carol Kirkwood - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carol_Kirkwood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carol_Kirkwood)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 05, 2023, 05:31:44 AM
Yeah. She’s possibly more like 34J.
Cheers.

The list is lacking smaller ladies, I don't have anyone in the C and D category.  Although to be honest I can't think of any.  So I suspect I will keep with the current arrangement.

Okay today then, something different - for non UK readers this lady is a national weather forecaster.   I think she looks quite busty on TV,  I have been meaning to add her to the challenge every time I see the weather forcast. We have no data for her size that I can see.  So I wonder how big she is?

Carol Kirkwood - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carol_Kirkwood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carol_Kirkwood)

Ha. I know of Carol. Such a delight to see on air (and keeping older women in the limelight too!).

I don’t know what height she is, but I suspect it’s around 5’6” and she seems broad shouldered. She also dresses to her shape, so while her boobs look big with projection, I suspect she’s not as humongous as you’d imagine. I’d be thinking something like a 34GG/H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 05, 2023, 11:50:39 AM
Ha. I know of Carol. Such a delight to see on air (and keeping older women in the limelight too!).
What is the saying - the older the tree the sweeter the fruit.

I’d be thinking something like a 34GG/H.
Still quite big.   

Okay off to Peru now - no marmalade sandwiches in sight.

Paola Ruiz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paola_Ruiz - no size stated for this lady. So not much to go on.

https://www.indexxx.com/m/paola-rios
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 06, 2023, 03:15:25 AM
Ha. I know of Carol. Such a delight to see on air (and keeping older women in the limelight too!).
What is the saying - the older the tree the sweeter the fruit.

I’d be thinking something like a 34GG/H.
Still quite big.   

Okay off to Peru now - no marmalade sandwiches in sight.

Paola Ruiz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paola_Ruiz - no size stated for this lady. So not much to go on.

https://www.indexxx.com/m/paola-rios

Too difficult to tell, but it’s something like a 28D/E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 06, 2023, 12:25:54 PM
Too difficult to tell, but it’s something like a 28D/E.
Yes a tricky one - I shall put her down as a 28D

No, she isn't a minor. 

Milly Morris - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milly_Morris - 36E 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 06, 2023, 01:18:13 PM
Too difficult to tell, but it’s something like a 28D/E.
Yes a tricky one - I shall put her down as a 28D

No, she isn't a minor. 

Milly Morris - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Milly_Morris - 36E

I think 36 back seems awful big. 32-34, and probably E or F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 07, 2023, 01:36:46 AM
Challenge number 46.

Zuzanna Drabinova - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Zuzanna_Drabinova - BP says 32F?  I think she is bigger than that.

https://www.ogglebooble.com/album.html?folder=22114
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 07, 2023, 03:23:37 AM
Challenge number 46.

Zuzanna Drabinova - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Zuzanna_Drabinova - BP says 32F?  I think she is bigger than that.

https://www.ogglebooble.com/album.html?folder=22114

32F seems quite broad - she looks really slim - although it says she’s 5’8”, so I’d expect her to be a little bit broader. But, she looks super slim in the back, so I’m going to go for 30G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 07, 2023, 04:41:55 AM
But, she looks super slim in the back, so I’m going to go for 30G.
You see stuff I never see - once you point it out I see it.  She is slimmer than I thought, I can see how 30G would be right.

So talking slim women - I don't think we've done Tessa Fowler.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler) - 30J and 5' 1"?  I like this shape of Tessa's boobs, but (as with lots of women) they look different in different pics.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 07, 2023, 05:44:25 AM
But, she looks super slim in the back, so I’m going to go for 30G.
You see stuff I never see - once you point it out I see it.  She is slimmer than I thought, I can see how 30G would be right.

So talking slim women - I don't think we've done Tessa Fowler.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler) - 30J and 5' 1"?  I like this shape of Tessa's boobs, but (as with lots of women) they look different in different pics.

This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back. 28” back, 39” overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying bust, that’s going to get me a 28H in a UK bra, but she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH, as her underbust was very snug. She’s possibly grown slightly since then. (She completely gets her bra size wrong in the video).

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 07, 2023, 06:34:40 AM
This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back.
Ah I missed that.

she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH
28HH is it then

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!
She is gorgeous - and (for me) it is always great to hear the accents of the models.  I can't recall Tessa voice, I must have heard it, I think it is fairly generic US.

A couple of ladies off the top of my head with intresting accents are: Leanne Crow (she is from Sunderland) and Stacey Poole, who seems to have a north west English accent, or is it Yorkshire.  haha, I don't know now.

Okay as Tessa was too easy lets try another.

Marketa Pechova (know as Chikita) - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marketa_Pechova - 34E?  Love this womans figure - if I was a woman this is what I'd want to look like.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 07, 2023, 06:44:31 AM
This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back.
Ah I missed that.

she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH
28HH is it then

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!
She is gorgeous - and (for me) it is always great to hear the accents of the models.  I can't recall Tessa voice, I must have heard it, I think it is fairly generic US.

A couple of ladies off the top of my head with intresting accents are: Leanne Crow (she is from Sunderland) and Stacey Poole, who seems to have a north west English accent, or is it Yorkshire.  haha, I don't know now.

Okay as Tessa was too easy lets try another.

Marketa Pechova (know as Chikita) - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Marketa_Pechova - 34E?  Love this womans figure - if I was a woman this is what I'd want to look like.

If she’s 5’5” and as slim as that photo, there’s no way she’s a 34 back. Given how skinny she looks, I’d suspect she’s a 26 or 28 back. Possibly a 26GG.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 07, 2023, 11:26:27 AM
Possibly a 26GG.
That'll be the first lady to have a 26 band.  I don't even have that on the chart!

Okay - over to the archives now.

Pat Wynn - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Pat_Wynn (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Pat_Wynn). 

I haven't seen any of her pics for a while - she looks smaller than I remember. The perm gives the era away...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 07, 2023, 11:46:42 AM

So talking slim women - I don't think we've done Tessa Fowler.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler) - 30J and 5' 1"?  I like this shape of Tessa's boobs, but (as with lots of women) they look different in different pics.

This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back. 28” back, 39” overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying bust, that’s going to get me a 28H in a UK bra, but she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH, as her underbust was very snug. She’s possibly grown slightly since then. (She completely gets her bra size wrong in the video).

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!

Tessa is a modern goddess... she hasn't posted anything to her Onlyfans in months, though, I hope she's allright.
She's got more than one boob measuring video, I watched all of them, and she always comes out US J cup.

I got another question though.... there's a different model I've always really wanted to know the measurements but just in a certain video, because she is just MASSIVE with milk.  (It's a lactation video)

But it's a Daktari video.  If Ms Margaret is even willing to watch it, it is allowed to give a URL to it without posting a photo?  Is it allowed to give enough detail to make it easy to find?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 07, 2023, 04:40:02 PM

So talking slim women - I don't think we've done Tessa Fowler.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler) - 30J and 5' 1"?  I like this shape of Tessa's boobs, but (as with lots of women) they look different in different pics.

This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back. 28” back, 39” overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying bust, that’s going to get me a 28H in a UK bra, but she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH, as her underbust was very snug. She’s possibly grown slightly since then. (She completely gets her bra size wrong in the video).

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!

Tessa is a modern goddess... she hasn't posted anything to her Onlyfans in months, though, I hope she's allright.
She's got more than one boob measuring video, I watched all of them, and she always comes out US J cup.

I got another question though.... there's a different model I've always really wanted to know the measurements but just in a certain video, because she is just MASSIVE with milk.  (It's a lactation video)

But it's a Daktari video.  If Ms Margaret is even willing to watch it, it is allowed to give a URL to it without posting a photo?  Is it allowed to give enough detail to make it easy to find?

Post, I can hack it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 07, 2023, 04:53:36 PM
Post, I can hack it.

I hope I can, I really would love an expert opinion to back my amateur observations.
Daktari videos are on the DNP list, though, so I want to wait until I hear from the mods.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 07, 2023, 10:58:07 PM
I guess you will realize how ignorant I can be about bras, but what does the B-J tag on the strap mean?  ??? Fantastic and fabulous clothing nevertheless.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 08, 2023, 03:04:23 AM
but what does the B-J tag on the strap mean?
Blow job safe...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 08, 2023, 03:44:53 AM
but what does the B-J tag on the strap mean?
Blow job safe...

See me after class.

It means B-J cup. As in, this bra is available in a B-J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 08, 2023, 03:52:18 AM
I guess you will realize how ignorant I can be about bras, but what does the B-J tag on the strap mean?  ??? Fantastic and fabulous clothing nevertheless.  :)

Incidentally, here’s what I wrote about this lady on another thread:

I spotted this girl some time ago on the Curvy Kate instagram page. Isn't she just beautiful?

In terms of size - in this photo (attached) she's wearing a Curvy Kate Luxe in biscotti - and this photo was posted in December 2019, so I'm assuming her size hasn't changed much since then. This bra goes up to an L cup in some band sizes, and from the photos, she's *just about* fitting into the cups, but the centre gore isn't sitting snug - so, it's possible she needs to go up one cup size (although, with strapless bras, it's often better to remain a cup size down, as it tends to hold you in better). I have one of these bras in black, and they are engineered to perfection - usually with strapless bras, you are constantly pulling the cups up and often fall out of them or sag badly - but these hold you in really well (the back band does all the hard work). I've also seen her model a Curvy Kate Hot Spot (which also goes up to K) and a CK Victory (also up to K), and she said it was a 30K she was wearing in the Victory - it looks a good fit, although, I can't see her back band, so can't be 100% certain.

Given her height and frame, I'd suspect she's in the 30K, 30KK or 30L category. Possibly 32K, as she looks broad.

It must be *very* difficult for her to find bras (other than CK) that fit - and even worse for swimwear.

But what a gorgeous girl.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 08, 2023, 04:24:09 AM
Possibly a 26GG.
That'll be the first lady to have a 26 band.  I don't even have that on the chart!

Okay - over to the archives now.

Pat Wynn - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Pat_Wynn (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Pat_Wynn). 

I haven't seen any of her pics for a while - she looks smaller than I remember. The perm gives the era away...

Difficult to be sure, but she looks like a 32 or 34F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 08, 2023, 06:01:42 AM

So talking slim women - I don't think we've done Tessa Fowler.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tessa_Fowler) - 30J and 5' 1"?  I like this shape of Tessa's boobs, but (as with lots of women) they look different in different pics.

This one is easy, because she did a measuring video a while back. 28” back, 39” overbust. Depending on her leaning and lying bust, that’s going to get me a 28H in a UK bra, but she might be slightly more comfortable in a 28HH, as her underbust was very snug. She’s possibly grown slightly since then. (She completely gets her bra size wrong in the video).

Can I just say, she is captivatingly beautiful too - and so charming when she speaks. I love her!

Tessa is a modern goddess... she hasn't posted anything to her Onlyfans in months, though, I hope she's allright.
She's got more than one boob measuring video, I watched all of them, and she always comes out US J cup.

I got another question though.... there's a different model I've always really wanted to know the measurements but just in a certain video, because she is just MASSIVE with milk.  (It's a lactation video)

But it's a Daktari video.  If Ms Margaret is even willing to watch it, it is allowed to give a URL to it without posting a photo?  Is it allowed to give enough detail to make it easy to find?

I’ve been watching through more of Tessa’s videos. I’m so taken by her - she is so charming - and she has the most sensational eyes. I just love everything about her - and she has a figure to die for too. I’m happy to say I officially have a crush on her.

In almost every bra fitting video, she gets her size wrong (both US and UK). She admits to intentionally purchasing bras that are too small - which I understand is common with boob models, as it pushes their boobs up and outwards. But it’s so bad for your breast tissue. It breaks my heart to see it. I wish some of these ladies were members on this forum, so I could do a proper fitting for them.

Seeing her do the naked measuring really takes me back - I didn’t do them often when I was working as a fitter, but it always gives a slightly better fitting when you do - especially if you do leaning and lying measurements. Most women aren’t confident enough to do it, but some are immodest and don’t mind.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 08, 2023, 07:33:54 AM
but what does the B-J tag on the strap mean?
Blow job safe...

See me after class.

It means B-J cup. As in, this bra is available in a B-J.

Are you gonna send him to the Principal's Office, teacher?   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 08, 2023, 11:20:11 AM
I spotted this girl some time ago on the Curvy Kate instagram page. Isn't she just beautiful?
Stacy Vandenberg - I can't find a Boobpedia entry for her. I will put her down as 32K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 08, 2023, 04:44:05 PM
I spotted this girl some time ago on the Curvy Kate instagram page. Isn't she just beautiful?
Stacy Vandenberg - I can't find a Boobpedia entry for her. I will put her down as 32K.

This is weird.  Boobpedia has no listing for her under Stacy or Stacy Vandenberg or Vandenburg, Adriana Fenice, or any version of Nastya or Adriana.  I have no clue how a model who's been around as long as she has can have flown under their radar.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 09, 2023, 01:35:15 AM
I have no clue how a model who's been around as long as she has can have flown under their radar.
I was surprised she isn't on there too.  Unless she has requested not too be.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 09, 2023, 01:41:26 AM
Here's a woman with a controversial back story.  But I thought she'd interesting  I couldn't remember her name until I saw it on the forum today - better post before I forget again..

Faith Nelson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Faith_Nelson - 32G. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 09, 2023, 01:46:50 AM
And an extra to get me to 7K.

Donna Ambrose - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Donna_Ambrose 34G (wow is she really 57)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 09, 2023, 09:47:10 AM
Here's a woman with a controversial back story.  But I thought she'd interesting  I couldn't remember her name until I saw it on the forum today - better post before I forget again..

Faith Nelson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Faith_Nelson - 32G. 

A beautiful girl. I understand she’s had some problems. I hope it’s all worked out for her. I also understand she’s had a reduction and does OnlyFans under another name.

32G seems a bit off-kilter. Especially the back size. I’d be thinking more of something like 30H. She probably wore a 32G or GG in her heyday, but I suspect it was a poor fit. Her boobs are definitely bigger than G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 09, 2023, 11:20:01 AM
And an extra to get me to 7K.

Donna Ambrose - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Donna_Ambrose 34G (wow is she really 57)

34G is possibly correct. Although, her boobs seem to have increased in size over the years (it happens to many of us).

It’s possible that she’s closer to 32GG, but it’s there or thereabouts.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 09, 2023, 11:59:19 AM
her boobs seem to have increased in size over the years (it happens to many of us).
I wonder if that was pregnancy that did that.  Women seem to get bigger (natural) boobs either with weigh gain or pregnancy.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 09, 2023, 12:10:42 PM
her boobs seem to have increased in size over the years (it happens to many of us).
I wonder if that was pregnancy that did that.  Women seem to get bigger (natural) boobs either with weigh gain or pregnancy.

Both will do it every time.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 09, 2023, 04:47:31 PM
her boobs seem to have increased in size over the years (it happens to many of us).
I wonder if that was pregnancy that did that.  Women seem to get bigger (natural) boobs either with weigh gain or pregnancy.

Both will do it every time.

Just makes her very appropriate for this forum, considering it's name!   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 09, 2023, 10:53:34 PM

I got another question though.... there's a different model I've always really wanted to know the measurements but just in a certain video, because she is just MASSIVE with milk.  (It's a lactation video)

But it's a Daktari video.  If Ms Margaret is even willing to watch it, it is allowed to give a URL to it without posting a photo?  Is it allowed to give enough detail to make it easy to find?

Post, I can hack it.

I just sent you a DM with some details.

For everyone else, I just asked Ms Margaret about Katerina Hartlova in her milky video with Hitomi Tanaka.  It's a Daktari video, so no screenshots, clips, or URLs or anything, sorry.  Im sure people can find it.

Boobpedia had Katerina at 5'6" and a 34G at the start of her career, but that can't be right for that video.
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Hartlova
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 10, 2023, 12:49:12 AM
Okay today's candidate.

Christy Canyon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christy_Canyon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christy_Canyon) - 36E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 10, 2023, 01:20:08 AM

I got another question though.... there's a different model I've always really wanted to know the measurements but just in a certain video, because she is just MASSIVE with milk.  (It's a lactation video)

But it's a Daktari video.  If Ms Margaret is even willing to watch it, it is allowed to give a URL to it without posting a photo?  Is it allowed to give enough detail to make it easy to find?

Post, I can hack it.

I just sent you a DM with some details.

For everyone else, I just asked Ms Margaret about Katerina Hartlova in her milky video with Hitomi Tanaka.  It's a Daktari video, so no screenshots, clips, or URLs or anything, sorry.  Im sure people can find it.

Boobpedia had Katerina at 5'6" and a 34G at the start of her career, but that can't be right for that video.
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Hartlova

It’s difficult to be sure, as I’m not getting a decent sense of build/height etc from the video. But I think 34G is a tad off. She looks reasonably slim, and her bio says she’s 5’6”. I’m 5’5” and roughly the same shape as her, and I’m a 32FF, so I think she’s probably a 32FF or a 32G. It could be that she’s grown slightly since the video, so 32GG wouldn’t be unusual.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 10, 2023, 01:21:23 AM
Okay today's candidate.

Christy Canyon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christy_Canyon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Christy_Canyon) - 36E?

If she’s 5’7”, I don’t think she’s a 36 back. Probably more like 32E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 11, 2023, 11:48:29 AM
Righty-ho then.

Nadine Jansen - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nadine_Jansen (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nadine_Jansen) - 42O. 

When she started modeling, she possessed a 41" bust measurement, and a European size 80FF (US size 36FF) brassiere. In a video clip from her website, Nadine measured her bust line with a standard tape measure. After turning around completely to show the measurement procedure was accurate, her bust line was shown to be a convincing 46". By July, 2003 her bustline had reportedly increased to 47". In recent years, her bra size has also increased to 34H. In January 2007, she announced her bust reached a J cup bra size. In a photo shoot at 4 months of pregnancy, the tape measure shows her bustline was 49".

In an unofficial video posted on her website, friend and fellow big breast model Milena Velba weighed Nadine's breasts on an old-style Salter kitchen food scale. When weighed together, Nadine's breast were approximately 7.5 lbs. Weighed separately, the right breast was about 3.5 lbs. and the left breast was about 3 lbs.

Lately her bra size had slightly increased and currently on her website her bra size was listed at 85H (38H in US size).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 11, 2023, 02:18:58 PM
Righty-ho then.

Nadine Jansen - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nadine_Jansen (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Nadine_Jansen) - 42O. 

When she started modeling, she possessed a 41" bust measurement, and a European size 80FF (US size 36FF) brassiere. In a video clip from her website, Nadine measured her bust line with a standard tape measure. After turning around completely to show the measurement procedure was accurate, her bust line was shown to be a convincing 46". By July, 2003 her bustline had reportedly increased to 47". In recent years, her bra size has also increased to 34H. In January 2007, she announced her bust reached a J cup bra size. In a photo shoot at 4 months of pregnancy, the tape measure shows her bustline was 49".

In an unofficial video posted on her website, friend and fellow big breast model Milena Velba weighed Nadine's breasts on an old-style Salter kitchen food scale. When weighed together, Nadine's breast were approximately 7.5 lbs. Weighed separately, the right breast was about 3.5 lbs. and the left breast was about 3 lbs.

Lately her bra size had slightly increased and currently on her website her bra size was listed at 85H (38H in US size).

If she’s 5’4” and on the heavier side, we’re up in the 36-38 back territory, possibly 40, and unquestionably beyond normal cup sizes. So, something like 38L/LL.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 12, 2023, 02:26:34 AM
If she’s 5’4” and on the heavier side, we’re up in the 36-38 back territory, possibly 40, and unquestionably beyond normal cup sizes. So, something like 38L/LL.
So custom bras?  I'm curious how much these cost, and how do you go about getting one.

My first job after school was working in a small fashion retailer making one-off garments, so I ask the question with some knowledge of making patterns for people.

I have Abbi Secraa @ 36LL and Nadine Jansen @ 38LL - when we get to very large sizes like that, I guess the difference isn't that much?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 13, 2023, 04:46:38 AM
If she’s 5’4” and on the heavier side, we’re up in the 36-38 back territory, possibly 40, and unquestionably beyond normal cup sizes. So, something like 38L/LL.
So custom bras?  I'm curious how much these cost, and how do you go about getting one.

My first job after school was working in a small fashion retailer making one-off garments, so I ask the question with some knowledge of making patterns for people.

I have Abbi Secraa @ 36LL and Nadine Jansen @ 38LL - when we get to very large sizes like that, I guess the difference isn't that much?
When things get to a certain size, you have limited options.

You can wear bras that are as close a fit as you can get, which isn’t ideal.

You can not wear a bra at all, which is a terrible idea.

Or, you can pay for a custom bra - and they are not cheap. I’d expect anything from £150>, and even then it might not do the job too well.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 13, 2023, 11:23:57 AM
When things get to a certain size, you have limited options.
That seems like a life lesson right there...
You can wear bras that are as close a fit as you can get, which isn’t ideal.
Indeed.
You can not wear a bra at all, which is a terrible idea.
I guess that would lead to the skin stretching - and ah, boobs lower down over time.
I’d expect anything from £150>, and even then it might not do the job too well.
Jeez, that is quite a sum for a bra.  I wonder if standard sizes will get larger like dress sizes have over the last few years.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 13, 2023, 11:30:04 AM
Today we have the lovely Michelle Monaghan in the fitting room.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Michelle_Monaghan - 32I?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 13, 2023, 01:02:07 PM
Today we have the lovely Michelle Monaghan in the fitting room.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Michelle_Monaghan - 32I?

She’s probably a 34H/HH - there is no I.

I noticed she seems to get bigger as her career goes on. And there’s a photo of her with a young Leanne Crow, where Leanne looks more like a 32GG/H - compared to what she probably is now (somewhere up in the 34KK/L category).

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 13, 2023, 02:31:14 PM

I just sent you a DM with some details.

For everyone else, I just asked Ms Margaret about Katerina Hartlova in her milky video with Hitomi Tanaka.  It's a Daktari video, so no screenshots, clips, or URLs or anything, sorry.  Im sure people can find it.

Boobpedia had Katerina at 5'6" and a 34G at the start of her career, but that can't be right for that video.
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Hartlova

It’s difficult to be sure, as I’m not getting a decent sense of build/height etc from the video. But I think 34G is a tad off. She looks reasonably slim, and her bio says she’s 5’6”. I’m 5’5” and roughly the same shape as her, and I’m a 32FF, so I think she’s probably a 32FF or a 32G. It could be that she’s grown slightly since the video, so 32GG wouldn’t be unusual.

Thank you so much, Margaret, especially since I couldn't just post an image and make it easy.

I've wondered about her size for so very long.

Can you remind me, though... US cup size or UK?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 12:56:49 AM
She’s probably a 34H/HH - there is no I.
It just goes to show how inaccurate Boobpedia is when they keep quoting 'I' when there isn't an 'I'.

I noticed she seems to get bigger as her career goes on.
Yeah its like a moving target to estimate a woman's chest size.

And there’s a photo of her with a young Leanne Crow, where Leanne looks more like a 32GG/H - compared to what she probably is now (somewhere up in the 34KK/L category).
I've updated my list as I hadn't put Leanne on.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 01:00:57 AM
Here is how the list is looking (56 entries) with a subset of the largest ladies sorted by cup size.

Yulia Nova
30
H
Carol Kirkwood
34
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Kerry Marie
36
H
Faith Nelson
30
H
Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Mady Gio
32
HH
Bea Flora
34
HH
Alexsis Faye.
36
HH
Michelle Monaghan
34
HH
September Carrino
28
J
Kelly Madison
34
J
Lilith Grant
34
J
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Sarah Nicola Randall
30
JJ
Alicia Loren
38
K
Stacy Vandenberg
32
K
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Milena Velba
34
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
Leanne Crow
34
L
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Nadine Jansen
38
LL
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 14, 2023, 02:23:39 AM

I just sent you a DM with some details.

For everyone else, I just asked Ms Margaret about Katerina Hartlova in her milky video with Hitomi Tanaka.  It's a Daktari video, so no screenshots, clips, or URLs or anything, sorry.  Im sure people can find it.

Boobpedia had Katerina at 5'6" and a 34G at the start of her career, but that can't be right for that video.
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Hartlova

It’s difficult to be sure, as I’m not getting a decent sense of build/height etc from the video. But I think 34G is a tad off. She looks reasonably slim, and her bio says she’s 5’6”. I’m 5’5” and roughly the same shape as her, and I’m a 32FF, so I think she’s probably a 32FF or a 32G. It could be that she’s grown slightly since the video, so 32GG wouldn’t be unusual.

Thank you so much, Margaret, especially since I couldn't just post an image and make it easy.

I've wondered about her size for so very long.

Can you remind me, though... US cup size or UK?

Always UK. US cup sizes don’t make any sense.

And, I don’t want anyone to think my assessments are the final word - they’re just my best guess based on what I can see and estimate. I recently re-discovered a fuller bust blogger/bra enthusiast, her name js Josie Jones (you’ll find her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.jj.edit), and she says she’s a 30H. I don’t disbelieve her, as she’s been fitted and buys/wears bras according to her fit - but when you see her, you’ll think she’s more like a 30F, or a 28FF. But, 30H she is - so, it can sometimes be very difficult to get it right without seeing the person first-hand, trying out a few bras and getting the fit correct.

I also do a lot of comparison; I have a stick of reference images from the web of women I know to be of a certain size - so it sometimes makes it easier to do a rough side-by-side and compare.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 03:08:00 AM
And, I don’t want anyone to think my assessments are the final word - they’re just my best guess based on what I can see and estimate.
I've always thought of your assessments that way.  This thread is a bit of fun, and to challenge your estimating prowess.

and she says she’s a 30H. I don’t disbelieve her, as she’s been fitted and buys/wears bras according to her fit - but when you see her, you’ll think she’s more like a 30F, or a 28FF.
Just had a look, and I'd have guessed a smaller size than 30H for Josie.

I also do a lot of comparison; I have a stick of reference images from the web of women I know to be of a certain size - so it sometimes makes it easier to do a rough side-by-side and compare.
I think this is why you assess models better than the rest of us - you have the experience. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 03:16:54 AM
Today's challenge - Maggie Green

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maggie_Green
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 14, 2023, 04:20:33 AM
Today's challenge - Maggie Green

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maggie_Green

In the past, when she first set out, I’d have put her at 32FF, so something around there. But she’s put on weight as time has gone on (it happens to us all!). I’d say she’s more or a 32/34 back and probably something like 34G - but it might vary.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 06:49:40 AM
But she’s put on weight as time has gone on (it happens to us all!).
You wait till you get to my age... haha

Okay then - Daisy van Heyden

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Daisy_van_Heyden - 34E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 14, 2023, 08:25:39 AM
But she’s put on weight as time has gone on (it happens to us all!).
You wait till you get to my age... haha

Okay then - Daisy van Heyden

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Daisy_van_Heyden - 34E?

Way too small and slim to be a 34 back. Almost definitely a 26FF 28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 14, 2023, 10:55:01 AM
Way too small and slim to be a 34 back. Almost definitely a 26FF 28F.
I'm sure Boobpedia makes up some of these sizes.

Just reflecting on Maggie Green again - isn't Maggie a shortening of Margaret.   You're a similar size too.

Anyway, I digress.  Another slim lady here.  Bettie Ballhaus

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Bettie_Ballhaus - 32E?  It says on the page she had a reduction in 2014, so we'll have to just go on pre-reduction.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on May 14, 2023, 04:21:23 PM
Here is how the list is looking (56 entries) with a subset of the largest ladies sorted by cup size.

Yulia Nova
30
H
Carol Kirkwood
34
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Kerry Marie
36
H
Faith Nelson
30
H
Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Mady Gio
32
HH
Bea Flora
34
HH
Alexsis Faye.
36
HH
Michelle Monaghan
34
HH
September Carrino
28
J
Kelly Madison
34
J
Lilith Grant
34
J
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Sarah Nicola Randall
30
JJ
Alicia Loren
38
K
Stacy Vandenberg
32
K
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Milena Velba
34
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
Leanne Crow
34
L
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Nadine Jansen
38
LL

Margaret estimated Anya was a 30JJ/30K (before reduction).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 14, 2023, 07:16:08 PM

Thank you so much, Margaret, especially since I couldn't just post an image and make it easy.

I've wondered about her size for so very long.

Can you remind me, though... US cup size or UK?

Always UK. US cup sizes don’t make any sense.

And, I don’t want anyone to think my assessments are the final word - they’re just my best guess based on what I can see and estimate. I recently re-discovered a fuller bust blogger/bra enthusiast, her name js Josie Jones (you’ll find her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.jj.edit), and she says she’s a 30H. I don’t disbelieve her, as she’s been fitted and buys/wears bras according to her fit - but when you see her, you’ll think she’s more like a 30F, or a 28FF. But, 30H she is - so, it can sometimes be very difficult to get it right without seeing the person first-hand, trying out a few bras and getting the fit correct.

I also do a lot of comparison; I have a stick of reference images from the web of women I know to be of a certain size - so it sometimes makes it easier to do a rough side-by-side and compare.

I understand.  I just wanted to make sure.  Boobpedia goes by American I think, and going from an American G to a UK GG is a lot of breast growth.   :)

Which is why I love love love that video so much... Natural Breast Expansion at it's best!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 16, 2023, 11:36:02 AM

Thank you so much, Margaret, especially since I couldn't just post an image and make it easy.

I've wondered about her size for so very long.

Can you remind me, though... US cup size or UK?

Always UK. US cup sizes don’t make any sense.

And, I don’t want anyone to think my assessments are the final word - they’re just my best guess based on what I can see and estimate. I recently re-discovered a fuller bust blogger/bra enthusiast, her name js Josie Jones (you’ll find her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.jj.edit), and she says she’s a 30H. I don’t disbelieve her, as she’s been fitted and buys/wears bras according to her fit - but when you see her, you’ll think she’s more like a 30F, or a 28FF. But, 30H she is - so, it can sometimes be very difficult to get it right without seeing the person first-hand, trying out a few bras and getting the fit correct.

I also do a lot of comparison; I have a stick of reference images from the web of women I know to be of a certain size - so it sometimes makes it easier to do a rough side-by-side and compare.

I understand.  I just wanted to make sure.  Boobpedia goes by American I think, and going from an American G to a UK GG is a lot of breast growth.   :)

Which is why I love love love that video so much... Natural Breast Expansion at it's best!

Interesting on Maggie. We definitely have similar bodyshapes. Not sure I could do her job though ;)

On Bettie… interestingly, she’s selling a 65H (Eu) bra on her website, which comes out roughly as 30FF (UK). It says on Boobpedia (what an incredible resource!) that she’s 4’11”, which I’m not sure is accurate. Anyway - she’s also had a reduction (which looks more like a lift-and-shift), so before that happened, I’d have placed her at 28GG or 30G.

I found two images (a few years apart) with her and a woman called Nadine Jansen, and the difference in Nadine’s boob size across the two photos is really quite startling.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 17, 2023, 04:34:35 AM
A bit of a random one today.

Alina (SiliconeFree) - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alina_(SiliconeFree) - there is no estimate on Boobpedia at all, so nothing to go with.

But there are a number of pics here: https://www.busty-legends.com/gals/alina-heavy-hangers.php
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 17, 2023, 06:34:21 AM
Margaret, on the thread PRO J E C T I O N, there was this little graph pertaining about how there are different classifications of projecting breasts. I wonder what our best expert about breasts thinks about it.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 17, 2023, 11:48:30 AM
A bit of a random one today.

Alina (SiliconeFree) - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alina_(SiliconeFree) - there is no estimate on Boobpedia at all, so nothing to go with.

But there are a number of pics here: https://www.busty-legends.com/gals/alina-heavy-hangers.php

Difficult to say, but it’s going to be big. 36 back maybe and something like H/HH. She’s very low set and flat, so those boobs will have to be squeezed into position with a lot of swoop and scoop.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 17, 2023, 11:53:29 AM
Margaret, on the thread PRO J E C T I O N, there was this little graph pertaining about how there are different classifications of projecting breasts. I wonder what our best expert about breasts thinks about it.  :)

I’m not sure how scientific this is. Roots do play a part in protection (small, high-up roots with big boobs is going to give more), but there’s other factors. Height, weight (carrying weight around your middle can affect projection as it pushes your boobs up), set (west-east/east-west), and boobs shape. Plus, the bras you wear can enhance or minimise it. I know you boys like a bit of projection, but it can be easily faked with the right bra. Naked projection is some other thing. I always find it fascinating the women who make it as (naked) big boob models - they tend to be centre set, very little west-east or east-west and with “rounded” boobs that sit high on their torso (this is often the result of surgery, but not always), so they have really appealing, aesthetically nice-looking boobs. It’s rare to see a model with droopy boobs or pancake boobs, or boobs that go off in different direction. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 17, 2023, 07:41:25 PM
Margaret, on the thread PRO J E C T I O N, there was this little graph pertaining about how there are different classifications of projecting breasts. I wonder what our best expert about breasts thinks about it.  :)

I’m not sure how scientific this is. Roots do play a part in protection (small, high-up roots with big boobs is going to give more), but there’s other factors. Height, weight (carrying weight around your middle can affect projection as it pushes your boobs up), set (west-east/east-west), and boobs shape. Plus, the bras you wear can enhance or minimise it. I know you boys like a bit of projection, but it can be easily faked with the right bra. Naked projection is some other thing. I always find it fascinating the women who make it as (naked) big boob models - they tend to be centre set, very little west-east or east-west and with “rounded” boobs that sit high on their torso (this is often the result of surgery, but not always), so they have really appealing, aesthetically nice-looking boobs. It’s rare to see a model with droopy boobs or pancake boobs, or boobs that go off in different direction. 

Thank you for your reply. You are the best.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 18, 2023, 01:17:15 AM
Margaret, on the thread PRO J E C T I O N, there was this little graph pertaining about how there are different classifications of projecting breasts. I wonder what our best expert about breasts thinks about it.  :)

I’m not sure how scientific this is. Roots do play a part in protection (small, high-up roots with big boobs is going to give more), but there’s other factors. Height, weight (carrying weight around your middle can affect projection as it pushes your boobs up), set (west-east/east-west), and boobs shape. Plus, the bras you wear can enhance or minimise it. I know you boys like a bit of projection, but it can be easily faked with the right bra. Naked projection is some other thing. I always find it fascinating the women who make it as (naked) big boob models - they tend to be centre set, very little west-east or east-west and with “rounded” boobs that sit high on their torso (this is often the result of surgery, but not always), so they have really appealing, aesthetically nice-looking boobs. It’s rare to see a model with droopy boobs or pancake boobs, or boobs that go off in different direction. 

Thank you for your reply. You are the best.  :)

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Yasmin on May 18, 2023, 01:58:31 AM
Margaret, on the thread PRO J E C T I O N, there was this little graph pertaining about how there are different classifications of projecting breasts. I wonder what our best expert about breasts thinks about it.  :)

I’m not sure how scientific this is. Roots do play a part in protection (small, high-up roots with big boobs is going to give more), but there’s other factors. Height, weight (carrying weight around your middle can affect projection as it pushes your boobs up), set (west-east/east-west), and boobs shape. Plus, the bras you wear can enhance or minimise it. I know you boys like a bit of projection, but it can be easily faked with the right bra. Naked projection is some other thing. I always find it fascinating the women who make it as (naked) big boob models - they tend to be centre set, very little west-east or east-west and with “rounded” boobs that sit high on their torso (this is often the result of surgery, but not always), so they have really appealing, aesthetically nice-looking boobs. It’s rare to see a model with droopy boobs or pancake boobs, or boobs that go off in different direction. 

Thank you for your reply. You are the best.  :)

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

I just want to record that you like this comment! ^^
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 18, 2023, 02:12:20 AM
Difficult to say, but it’s going to be big. 36 back maybe and something like H/HH. She’s very low set and flat, so those boobs will have to be squeezed into position with a lot of swoop and scoop.
I often wonder about women with lower hanging boobs, it must be more of a challenge to get a bra to be comfortable. There has got to be more stress on bra.

So that said:  Roberta Smallwood - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Smallwood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Smallwood) - 44G is quoted on https://www.xlgirls.com/bbw-models/Roberta_Smallwood/1496/?nats=NDc5MDU0LjQuNy43LjEuMC4wLjAuMA (https://www.xlgirls.com/bbw-models/Roberta_Smallwood/1496/?nats=NDc5MDU0LjQuNy43LjEuMC4wLjAuMA)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 18, 2023, 11:32:43 AM
Difficult to say, but it’s going to be big. 36 back maybe and something like H/HH. She’s very low set and flat, so those boobs will have to be squeezed into position with a lot of swoop and scoop.
I often wonder about women with lower hanging boobs, it must be more of a challenge to get a bra to be comfortable. There has got to be more stress on bra.

So that said:  Roberta Smallwood - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Smallwood (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Roberta_Smallwood) - 44G is quoted on https://www.xlgirls.com/bbw-models/Roberta_Smallwood/1496/?nats=NDc5MDU0LjQuNy43LjEuMC4wLjAuMA (https://www.xlgirls.com/bbw-models/Roberta_Smallwood/1496/?nats=NDc5MDU0LjQuNy43LjEuMC4wLjAuMA)

It’s difficult to be sure, but 44G doesn’t seem to be wildly inaccurate 1 although, 44 maybe seems a bit wide. Possibly more like 40-42 and G or GG. I fitted a lady once as a 40G and her boobs and overall bodyshape and size were pretty similar.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 18, 2023, 11:57:50 AM
I fitted a lady once as a 40G and her boobs and overall bodyshape and size were pretty similar.
When you do a fitting, I guess (as you've proved here) you have a pretty good idea what size to start before you've done any measuring.   I find women with clothes on can look a different size than with clothes off - sometimes bigger sometimes smaller. I guess even that you'd account for. 

Are some physiques trickier than others - or are they all estimate, measure and try a size - or do you get some that just don't follow the normal rules of bra fitting?

I'd been trying to remember this girls name.

Ashley Ellison - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ashley_Ellison - 32K?

It is alleged that by October 2007, she had grown to a 32JJ bra. It was during 2008, however, that she decisively changed the nature of her body shape, gaining over 30lbs in additional weight and planting herself firmly in the "chubby" or "mid-sized" erotica market.

When she relaunched her career with the SCORE Group in early 2009, her bra size by then was 36J. Since then there has been a slight weight loss from her previous weight increase and, as of March 2013, her website is once again reporting her bust as being 32JJ/K.



Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 19, 2023, 02:52:44 AM
I fitted a lady once as a 40G and her boobs and overall bodyshape and size were pretty similar.
When you do a fitting, I guess (as you've proved here) you have a pretty good idea what size to start before you've done any measuring.   I find women with clothes on can look a different size than with clothes off - sometimes bigger sometimes smaller. I guess even that you'd account for. 

Are some physiques trickier than others - or are they all estimate, measure and try a size - or do you get some that just don't follow the normal rules of bra fitting?

I'd been trying to remember this girls name.

Ashley Ellison - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ashley_Ellison - 32K?

It is alleged that by October 2007, she had grown to a 32JJ bra. It was during 2008, however, that she decisively changed the nature of her body shape, gaining over 30lbs in additional weight and planting herself firmly in the "chubby" or "mid-sized" erotica market.

When she relaunched her career with the SCORE Group in early 2009, her bra size by then was 36J. Since then there has been a slight weight loss from her previous weight increase and, as of March 2013, her website is once again reporting her bust as being 32JJ/K.


Every fitting is different (it’s been a while since I did it professionally, but I still help friends etc when needed), but there was a time when I would do 3-4, sometimes up to 10 or more per day. You get an instinct for it, largely because while everyone is a different shape and size, you get to know those shapes and sizes. I can usually do a quick visual check (even with the person wearing clothes and a bra) and get pretty close (usually on the money) as to what their size is. It almost seems like a magic trick, but it’s just experience and intuition at work. The most difficult assessments tend to be at the extreme ends of the spectrum (really skinny, small boobed women - or larger, curvier women). Another thing is that averages come in to play - I tend to know that most women will be in the back size range of anywhere between 28-36, and from their approximate back size, I can glance at their boobs and think “okay, that’s going to be roughly a 32G”). But it still requires trying on 2 or 3 bras (from different manufacturers) to figure out how comfortable they are on, and if they suit the person. A Panache bra fits differently from a Curvy Kate, a balconette bra fits differently from a full cup etc. But even in everyday life, I can glance at a woman in a restaurant and do a quick assessment that covers posture, how her boobs are set in her current bra, if the back band is riding up or too low (if it’s showing through her outfit or I can see an outline), if her shoulder straps are digging, her projection, her shape and overall size, if she’s got jiggle/wiggle when she moves etc - and I can usually say “that bra doesn’t fit” or “she needs to go up a cup size” or “she’s probably a 30FF” or “that looks like a 32J”.

Okay, Ashley. This is an interesting girl, as she seems to have started modelling young - with quite big boobs initially anyway. And, then we see her move into her late teens and into her early 20s, which is when the spread happens to most women (it happened to me around age 23-25, where I just gained so much weight on my thighs, arse and boobs). All sorts of reasons can be blamed (reduced activity, kids, the pill, pregnancy, eating more, general growth etc).

Based on the most recent pics (I don’t know if she models any more or not), then I reckon 34-36H/HH might be more accurate, as she looks quite tall and broad. 36J might also work for her - but there’s some photos she seems bigger and broader than others, so a 34 or 36JJ might not be unusual.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 20, 2023, 01:43:54 AM
intuition at work.
Ah, that was the word I was looking for...

(from different manufacturers) to figure out how comfortable they are on
A lot of clothes seem to be like that even us men. Even shoes can be a bit hit and miss.  It must be even more so for a bra with its structural function.

I can glance at a woman in a restaurant and do a quick assessment that covers posture, how her boobs are set in her current bra
Do you ever get the urge to say something to a women clearly with the wrong bra on? 

And, then we see her move into her late teens and into her early 20s, which is when the spread happens to most women (it happened to me around age 23-25, where I just gained so much weight on my thighs, arse and boobs). All sorts of reasons can be blamed (reduced activity, kids, the pill, pregnancy, eating more, general growth etc).
Women's bodies are way more complex than men's - something I wish I knew when I was first dating.  Menopause on its own is fascinating.  I had no idea until recently.

(I don’t know if she models any more or not), then I reckon 34-36H/HH
I don't know if she is still active or not.  I think Faith Nelson still is but under another name that I can never remember, but she looks different.  I will put Ashley sown as a 36J.

Edit: Faith is https://www.instagram.com/thepleganpinup/ (https://www.instagram.com/thepleganpinup/)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 20, 2023, 01:52:13 AM
Today then.

Jennica Lynn - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennica_Lynn - 34M. Seems a bit off to me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 20, 2023, 05:49:53 AM
Today then.

Jennica Lynn - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennica_Lynn - 34M. Seems a bit off to me.


Not what you think of a stereotypical Swedish woman. Usually, you think of Swedish women as being blonde, very tall and slim.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 20, 2023, 06:24:10 AM
intuition at work.
Ah, that was the word I was looking for...

(from different manufacturers) to figure out how comfortable they are on
A lot of clothes seem to be like that even us men. Even shoes can be a bit hit and miss.  It must be even more so for a bra with its structural function.

I can glance at a woman in a restaurant and do a quick assessment that covers posture, how her boobs are set in her current bra
Do you ever get the urge to say something to a women clearly with the wrong bra on? 

And, then we see her move into her late teens and into her early 20s, which is when the spread happens to most women (it happened to me around age 23-25, where I just gained so much weight on my thighs, arse and boobs). All sorts of reasons can be blamed (reduced activity, kids, the pill, pregnancy, eating more, general growth etc).
Women's bodies are way more complex than men's - something I wish I knew when I was first dating.  Menopause on its own is fascinating.  I had no idea until recently.

(I don’t know if she models any more or not), then I reckon 34-36H/HH
I don't know if she is still active or not.  I think Faith Nelson still is but under another name that I can never remember, but she looks different.  I will put Ashley sown as a 36J.

Edit: Faith is https://www.instagram.com/thepleganpinup/ (https://www.instagram.com/thepleganpinup/)

I sometimes do get the urge to say something - but it would be rude and presumptuous. I’d say it to a friend or a family member, but never a stranger.

Interesting to see Faith (the_plegan_pinup) now - she’s clearly had a reduction and gone back to doing amateur porn/vintage-look stuff. I find it interesting how some of the models find themselves being drawn back into it after years away.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 20, 2023, 06:26:53 AM
Today then.

Jennica Lynn - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennica_Lynn - 34M. Seems a bit off to me.

If she’s 5’6”, she’s never a 34M. She’s going to be more like a 36-38 back and probably a HH-J cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 21, 2023, 03:48:18 AM
Interesting to see Faith (the_plegan_pinup) now - I find it interesting how some of the models find themselves being drawn back into it after years away.
I think the same - I assume good money for relatively little effort.  I would never recommend a women go in to this line of work unless they really had no other choice. It always seems like a slippery slope to me.  Unless you can make a good nest-egg and retire and never return. (Danni Ashe brings to mind here)

I often see models that did just topless start to venture in to harder core content after a while - whether that was the plan or not when they started.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 21, 2023, 03:50:25 AM
Not what you think of a stereotypical Swedish woman. Usually, you think of Swedish women as being blonde, very tall and slim.
So true. Europe is such a melting pot of ethnicity.   
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 21, 2023, 04:00:16 AM
Staying in Sweden.

Carolina Sukie - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carolina_Sukie - no size quoted, but off the top of my head I'd plumb for 38K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 21, 2023, 05:17:27 AM
Staying in Sweden.

Carolina Sukie - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Carolina_Sukie - no size quoted, but off the top of my head I'd plumb for 38K.

I think a 38 back is too big. She’s probably a 34, maybe a 36. And most likely HH/J cup. There’s a lot of lens distortion, projection and pushing up going on. Her boobs don’t look much bigger than none, but I’m a 32 back and FF cup, so proportionally, up at 36 and an HH cup is about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 21, 2023, 12:06:13 PM

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

You say the nicest things!
You know who we haven't done, though?  Hitomi Tanaka!

She is 5'1" and 110 lbs and boobpedia has her at a 34O.  I can't believe she's 34, as short as she is, though.

I don't know if this is her at her very biggest, but it's close and it shows her almost full length with and without a bikini

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hitomi_Tanaka
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 21, 2023, 10:47:30 PM

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

You say the nicest things!
You know who we haven't done, though?  Hitomi Tanaka!

She is 5'1" and 110 lbs and boobpedia has her at a 34O.  I can't believe she's 34, as short as she is, though.

I don't know if this is her at her very biggest, but it's close and it shows her almost full length with and without a bikini

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hitomi_Tanaka


I can't wait to see what Margaret has to say about Hitomi.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 22, 2023, 03:32:22 AM

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

You say the nicest things!
You know who we haven't done, though?  Hitomi Tanaka!

She is 5'1" and 110 lbs and boobpedia has her at a 34O.  I can't believe she's 34, as short as she is, though.

I don't know if this is her at her very biggest, but it's close and it shows her almost full length with and without a bikini

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hitomi_Tanaka


I can't wait to see what Margaret has to say about Hitomi.  :)

If she’s really that short, then she is never a 34 back, and I’m assuming the O is an exaggeration or a Japanese measurement.

I suspect she’s in the 26-28 back category, as she’s so short, slim and with narrow shoulders. And her boobs are massive, with a low set. I’m thinking it’ll be something like 26J/JJ - but possibly 28K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 22, 2023, 06:49:41 AM
I'm fairly sure we haven't done this lady yet.

Anastasiya Berthier - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anastasiya_Berthier - 34L (seem plausible) BP says natural but I don't think she is.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 22, 2023, 07:26:03 AM

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

You say the nicest things!
You know who we haven't done, though?  Hitomi Tanaka!

She is 5'1" and 110 lbs and boobpedia has her at a 34O.  I can't believe she's 34, as short as she is, though.

I don't know if this is her at her very biggest, but it's close and it shows her almost full length with and without a bikini

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hitomi_Tanaka


I can't wait to see what Margaret has to say about Hitomi.  :)

If she’s really that short, then she is never a 34 back, and I’m assuming the O is an exaggeration or a Japanese measurement.

I suspect she’s in the 26-28 back category, as she’s so short, slim and with narrow shoulders. And her boobs are massive, with a low set. I’m thinking it’ll be something like 26J/JJ - but possibly 28K.

I can attest she really is that short. I'm only 5'5" tall, yet when I saw her at the AVN shows here in Las Vegas, I towered over her. Only while she was wearing platform shoes was she as tall as I, or even taller, but when she would wear sandals, she was way shorter, and she is very slim and petite overall except for those huge natural breasts.  :o :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 22, 2023, 08:51:47 AM

You’re welcome. I seriously love participating in this forum. Almost never any arguments. No-one is rude. Everyone is curious - and, it gives me a little challenge to participate in almost every day. Plus, in some way, it’s educational for everyone. You’re all a terrific bunch of people (albeit a bunch of big boob pervs!).

You say the nicest things!
You know who we haven't done, though?  Hitomi Tanaka!

She is 5'1" and 110 lbs and boobpedia has her at a 34O.  I can't believe she's 34, as short as she is, though.

I don't know if this is her at her very biggest, but it's close and it shows her almost full length with and without a bikini

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hitomi_Tanaka


I can't wait to see what Margaret has to say about Hitomi.  :)

If she’s really that short, then she is never a 34 back, and I’m assuming the O is an exaggeration or a Japanese measurement.

I suspect she’s in the 26-28 back category, as she’s so short, slim and with narrow shoulders. And her boobs are massive, with a low set. I’m thinking it’ll be something like 26J/JJ - but possibly 28K.

She really is massive, yeah....  :)

Boobpedia is really inconsistent, but I think for Japanese models they use Japanese sizes. 

But a UK JJ is a Japanese O so... maybe not an exaggeration!   :o

Thank you Margaret!

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 22, 2023, 08:52:50 AM

I can attest she really is that short. I'm only 5'5" tall, yet when I saw her at the AVN shows here in Las Vegas, I towered over her. Only while she was wearing platform shoes was she as tall as I, or even taller, but when she would wear sandals, she was way shorter, and she is very slim and petite overall except for those huge natural breasts.  :o :)

You're still my hero, Sol, you got to meet her in person!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on May 22, 2023, 10:14:09 AM
I'm fairly sure we haven't done this lady yet.

Anastasiya Berthier - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anastasiya_Berthier - 34L (seem plausible) BP says natural but I don't think she is.

If Anastasiya has implants, then her surgeon is a genius.  In her videos they squish and bounce without any sign of an implant. 

Her thread is HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997466.0) for more pix
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 22, 2023, 11:47:17 AM
If Anastasiya has implants, then her surgeon is a genius.  In her videos they squish and bounce without any sign of an implant. 
Fair point.  I shall examine your submission.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 23, 2023, 08:17:47 AM
I'm fairly sure we haven't done this lady yet.

Anastasiya Berthier - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anastasiya_Berthier - 34L (seem plausible) BP says natural but I don't think she is.

If Anastasiya has implants, then her surgeon is a genius.  In her videos they squish and bounce without any sign of an implant. 

Her thread is HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997466.0) for more pix
I think I assessed this lady before on her thread, but can’t be sure.

She’s going to be in the KK/L/LL category - possibly a 32 or 34 back. Whatever it is, it’s big - because I don’t think I’ve seen one photo of her with a properly-fitting bra on, which makes me think she squeezes into the biggest cup size she can find. There’s also a bit of emphasis and lens distortion going on. But she’s definitely big. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 23, 2023, 01:15:56 PM
I think I assessed this lady before on her thread, but can’t be sure.
Yes is retrospect I think you have.

Whatever it is, it’s big
haha yes...  I have a 38JJ and that seems like a humongous cup - jeez, K or L.

I don’t think I’ve seen one photo of her with a properly-fitting bra on, which makes me think she squeezes into the biggest cup size she can find. There’s also a bit of emphasis and lens distortion going on. But she’s definitely big.
Is that what larger ladies tend to do, go for the biggest cup size they can find and hope it fits.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 23, 2023, 01:19:07 PM
Not related to Yevgeny Prigozhin but today we assess.

Sunny Wagner - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sunny_Wagner (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sunny_Wagner) - 38F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 24, 2023, 12:59:15 AM
Not related to Yevgeny Prigozhin but today we assess.

Sunny Wagner - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sunny_Wagner (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sunny_Wagner) - 38F?

Possibly a 34/36F of FF. A fairly normal and common size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 24, 2023, 01:47:52 AM
Possibly a 34/36F of FF. A fairly normal and common size.
After 66 entries our survey seems to support that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 24, 2023, 01:56:24 AM
Hier eine Dame aus Deutschland.
Emilia Boshe - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Emilia_Boshe - 38HH?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 24, 2023, 11:29:04 AM
Hier eine Dame aus Deutschland.
Emilia Boshe - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Emilia_Boshe - 38HH?

That’s a very tall and very broad lady. 38 back wouldn’t be unusual, but I think she’s more in J/JJ territory.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 25, 2023, 01:04:51 AM
Okay then, this one maybe tricky.  She is on BP, so even though she isn't a model as such I think she can be included.  And I need to some C cup women. (not personally haha)

Diane Kruger - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Diane_Kruger - BP says C cup?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 25, 2023, 01:25:35 AM
Okay then, this one maybe tricky.  She is on BP, so even though she isn't a model as such I think she can be included.  And I need to some C cup women. (not personally haha)

Diane Kruger - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Diane_Kruger - BP says C cup?

28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 25, 2023, 11:30:38 AM
28F.
Ah, bigger than I thought.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 25, 2023, 11:44:37 AM
Next door country to Germany.

Duana - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Duana - 32L.  She is quite tall, so that maybe in the ballpark.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 25, 2023, 12:18:00 PM
28F.
Ah, bigger than I thought.
It sounds big, but it’s not. It’s all about proportion and cup size difference>back size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 25, 2023, 12:18:56 PM
Next door country to Germany.

Duana - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Duana - 32L.  She is quite tall, so that maybe in the ballpark.

I recall covering this lady in her own thread when I saw her wearing a Curvy Kate bra (which I still have too!). I said this:

“I'm going to hazard a guess that she's wearing a K cup in this photo - possibly a 32K (but perhaps a 34K), but I think the size she may require is a 34J or 34JJ.”

PS Notice the west-east set of her boobs?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 25, 2023, 05:00:46 PM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 25, 2023, 09:22:40 PM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)



Jana Defi is what I call a freak of nature of the best type.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 25, 2023, 11:55:07 PM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)



Jana Defi is what I call a freak of nature of the best type.  :)

She is what I call a Goddess.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 26, 2023, 02:08:20 AM
PS Notice the west-east set of her boobs?
Is that just caused by uneven growth of the breast tissue?

I don't think we've done this next lady - but digging in to the archives a bit.

Chesty Morgan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Chesty_Morgan - Q cup?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 26, 2023, 05:28:22 AM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)

I was sure I had commented on this utterly gorgeous lady before. I checked her thread but can’t find it - so it’ll be interesting to see if I can get it close to what I said previously.  Firstly, she is captivating - she has the most amazing figure (among the best I think I’ve ever seen) and she is so beautiful and expressive. I just love how her whole body just seems to behave for her. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a photo or a pose where she doesn’t look natural, confident and statuesque.

So, in terms of her bra size… she’s tall, slim and very full - but it’s all in proportion. I’m inclined to think she’s a 30 or 32 back, but I’m more inclined to think 32. I don’t think she’s a G (US or otherwise), as her boobs are too big and rounded to be a G. She’s more like a 32HH or possibly a 32J. A 30JJ might not be a million miles away either. 

I’m officially adding her to my growing list of BEA lady crushes; Ewa Sonnet, Danni Ashe, Traci Topps, Tessa Fowler.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 26, 2023, 05:29:04 AM
PS Notice the west-east set of her boobs?
Is that just caused by uneven growth of the breast tissue?

I don't think we've done this next lady - but digging in to the archives a bit.

Chesty Morgan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Chesty_Morgan - Q cup?

Never a Q. Nonsense.

In old money, who knows - but possibly something like a modern 34J/JJ.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 26, 2023, 02:11:10 PM
After Jana another Slavic women for the estimating jury.

Katerina Konec -https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Konec - 36E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 27, 2023, 10:00:21 AM
After Jana another Slavic women for the estimating jury.

Katerina Konec -https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katerina_Konec - 36E?

Hard to say because she seems to have grown over the years, so it’s difficult to find consistent images.

She probably started out as a 28G, and then ended up a 34FF or something along those lines.

It always startled me a little when I read things like “blowjob, vaginal, anal, double penetration”. I’m not a prude by any means, but when I first discovered that kind of thing so widespread on the internet (pardon the pun), it just shocked me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 27, 2023, 12:26:27 PM
It always startled me a little when I read things like “blowjob, vaginal, anal, double penetration”. I’m not a prude by any means, but when I first discovered that kind of thing so widespread on the internet (pardon the pun), it just shocked me.
I tend to agree. I think the whole porn thing has gone a bit too far to be honest.  I feel sorry for the young, that's how they think sex should be.  The point I made earlier in this thread that the adult industry is a slippery slope for performers, having to get more fetish to get the views. 

On another note - I stumbled on a video of Milena Velba displaying her bra size (at the time she was 38K) you weren't far off.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCo1pH-IU4U 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on May 28, 2023, 02:28:59 AM
So how about Alyssa Alps?
According to boobpedia she has a 42G-Cup
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alyssa_Alps

I think there is a missmatch, cause she has nearly the same body stats like Deena Duos (Deena: 5 ft 3 in/128lb ; Alyssa: 5 ft 4 in/128lb).
But Deena has definetly bigger implants with more projection and is listed to have 36Js.
So I think Alyssa is more likely a 36F/G-Cup and those 42" is her over the bust meassurement and not the bandsize.

Hope Margaret could help?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 28, 2023, 03:35:12 AM
So how about Alyssa Alps?
According to boobpedia she has a 42G-Cup
https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Alyssa_Alps

I think there is a missmatch, cause she has nearly the same body stats like Deena Duos (Deena: 5 ft 3 in/128lb ; Alyssa: 5 ft 4 in/128lb).
But Deena has definetly bigger implants with more projection and is listed to have 36Js.
So I think Alyssa is more likely a 36F/G-Cup and those 42" is her over the bust meassurement and not the bandsize.

Hope Margaret could help?

I really admire this lady. She’s really stunningly pretty - and she has such an amazing figure. I’d love to see what she looks like now.

If she’s 5’4”, I don’t think there’s much chance she’s a 42 back or a 36 back. She looks in the 32” back bracket, and, based on her boob shape and set, I’d be thinking she was a 32GG/H (bearing in mind these are UK measurements).

She’s now on my ladycrush list. I love her!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on May 28, 2023, 09:45:52 PM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)

I was sure I had commented on this utterly gorgeous lady before. I checked her thread but can’t find it - so it’ll be interesting to see if I can get it close to what I said previously.  Firstly, she is captivating - she has the most amazing figure (among the best I think I’ve ever seen) and she is so beautiful and expressive. I just love how her whole body just seems to behave for her. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a photo or a pose where she doesn’t look natural, confident and statuesque.

So, in terms of her bra size… she’s tall, slim and very full - but it’s all in proportion. I’m inclined to think she’s a 30 or 32 back, but I’m more inclined to think 32. I don’t think she’s a G (US or otherwise), as her boobs are too big and rounded to be a G. She’s more like a 32HH or possibly a 32J. A 30JJ might not be a million miles away either. 

I’m officially adding her to my growing list of BEA lady crushes; Ewa Sonnet, Danni Ashe, Traci Topps, Tessa Fowler.

Thank you Margaret... I know what you mean, and if you've ever seen video, its how she moves, too.   Every square inch of her... perfect.  Every motion... perfect.  Definitely crush material... Jana Defi, Tessa Fowler, and Yulia Nova for me.

How about Ashley Juggs?  Boobpedia has her at 5'8 which I believe and 44E which cant be right.  I bet 36 is closer and if I take eight inches from her back and add it to her boobs I get 36I (american) or 36 G (uk) so that is my guess.




https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ashley_Juggs
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 30, 2023, 11:09:55 AM
I don't think we've done Jana Defi yet, and that's a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous... I think the most beautiful overall body I've ever seen... and close to the most beautiful breasts.

Boobpedia says she is 5'8", 32G (I guess American G.)

I was sure I had commented on this utterly gorgeous lady before. I checked her thread but can’t find it - so it’ll be interesting to see if I can get it close to what I said previously.  Firstly, she is captivating - she has the most amazing figure (among the best I think I’ve ever seen) and she is so beautiful and expressive. I just love how her whole body just seems to behave for her. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a photo or a pose where she doesn’t look natural, confident and statuesque.

So, in terms of her bra size… she’s tall, slim and very full - but it’s all in proportion. I’m inclined to think she’s a 30 or 32 back, but I’m more inclined to think 32. I don’t think she’s a G (US or otherwise), as her boobs are too big and rounded to be a G. She’s more like a 32HH or possibly a 32J. A 30JJ might not be a million miles away either. 

I’m officially adding her to my growing list of BEA lady crushes; Ewa Sonnet, Danni Ashe, Traci Topps, Tessa Fowler.

Thank you Margaret... I know what you mean, and if you've ever seen video, its how she moves, too.   Every square inch of her... perfect.  Every motion... perfect.  Definitely crush material... Jana Defi, Tessa Fowler, and Yulia Nova for me.

How about Ashley Juggs?  Boobpedia has her at 5'8 which I believe and 44E which cant be right.  I bet 36 is closer and if I take eight inches from her back and add it to her boobs I get 36I (american) or 36 G (uk) so that is my guess.




https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ashley_Juggs

Where do all these amazing women come from? She’s beautiful.

I did a search and found a video of her with Danni Ashe - and while she’s taller and a tiny bit broader, she’s not significantly bigger all round, and her boobs are only marginally bigger. I’m certain Danni is a 32FF, so I’d put her at 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 30, 2023, 11:29:50 AM
Now I always thought Amanda Torres was South American - nope she is from Romania.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Torres (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Torres) - 36H
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 30, 2023, 01:31:40 PM
Now I always thought Amanda Torres was South American - nope she is from Romania.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Torres (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Amanda_Torres) - 36H

36H seems modest. 36-38 back, possibly JJ cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on May 31, 2023, 02:42:00 AM
36H seems modest. 36-38 back, possibly JJ cup.
I was thinking 36H seemed a little small.  I shall note her as 38JJ.

Back in to the archive for this lady.  Kimberly Kupps.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kimberly_Kupps - BP says H, I don't think so!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 01, 2023, 12:03:47 PM
36H seems modest. 36-38 back, possibly JJ cup.
I was thinking 36H seemed a little small.  I shall note her as 38JJ.

Back in to the archive for this lady.  Kimberly Kupps.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kimberly_Kupps - BP says H, I don't think so!

She seems to have changed somewhat as she’s gotten older, but I’d now put her in the 34-36 back range with something like HH/J as her cup size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 02, 2023, 01:47:01 AM
Another Romanian girl today (what do they add to the water there).

Luna Amor - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Luna_Amor - 36F seems a bit off, but what do you think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 02, 2023, 02:52:28 AM
Another Romanian girl today (what do they add to the water there).

Luna Amor - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Luna_Amor - 36F seems a bit off, but what do you think?

It’s not as off as you might think. Possibly 34FF or 36F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 02, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
It’s not as off as you might think. Possibly 34FF or 36F.
Ah okay. I still find it hard to estimate boobs. I thought she was bigger.

So over to Moscovia for this next lady.

Maria Body - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maria_Body - 32K Is she really that big?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: MaxBigfoot on June 02, 2023, 05:39:30 PM
It’s not as off as you might think. Possibly 34FF or 36F.
Ah okay. I still find it hard to estimate boobs. I thought she was bigger.

So over to Moscovia for this next lady.

Maria Body - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maria_Body - 32K Is she really that big?

Huh, she went freelance on OnlyFans.  One of the reasons Nadine Jensen's site is shut down, I suppose.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 03, 2023, 06:44:00 AM
It’s not as off as you might think. Possibly 34FF or 36F.
Ah okay. I still find it hard to estimate boobs. I thought she was bigger.

So over to Moscovia for this next lady.

Maria Body - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maria_Body - 32K Is she really that big?

I’ve seen this lady wear Curvy Kate bras, which generally only go up to K/KK, so I think she’s no bigger than that. She’s quite short, but seems broad in the back, so 32/34 would be about right. 32/34K wouldn’t be unusual - she’s quite full on - but I suspect she’s mlre 32/34J or JJ.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 04, 2023, 03:09:19 AM
but I suspect she’s more 32/34J or JJ.
Okay thanks.  I had to look up which is the larger of these (I knew they were close). It is quite subtle.   32JJ is 34J.  It is quite a clever system in many ways, but I keep thinking there most be something better.  No idea what to be honest.

One of Sol's countrywomen here...

Maritza Mendez - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maritza_Mendez - 36E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 04, 2023, 04:17:48 AM
but I suspect she’s more 32/34J or JJ.
Okay thanks.  I had to look up which is the larger of these (I knew they were close). It is quite subtle.   32JJ is 34J.  It is quite a clever system in many ways, but I keep thinking there most be something better.  No idea what to be honest.

One of Sol's countrywomen here...

Maritza Mendez - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Maritza_Mendez - 36E?

I don’t think she’s 36E. She has a really slim back, so I think she’s probably a 30 or 32 back, and she’s roughly the same height and build as me with a pear shape - so I’m going to say she’s a 32G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 05, 2023, 04:07:38 AM
she’s roughly the same height and build as me with a pear shape
She has a great figure. 

Okay then.  I took this next candidates name from the main forum.

Janne Hollan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janne_Hollan (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janne_Hollan) - 38G?  I'm thinking that maybe almost accurate for this young lady - what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 06, 2023, 09:03:23 AM
she’s roughly the same height and build as me with a pear shape
She has a great figure. 

Okay then.  I took this next candidates name from the main forum.

Janne Hollan - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janne_Hollan (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Janne_Hollan) - 38G?  I'm thinking that maybe almost accurate for this young lady - what are your thoughts?

Apologies for taking so long to reply. I am experiencing the “authorisation” problem logging in on a daily basis now. It’s really frustrating. I wish there was someone who would reply and help me sort it out.

Anyway, this lady - he’s, something like 36/38G seems about right, given her shape.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 06, 2023, 11:30:07 AM
Apologies for taking so long to reply. I am experiencing the “authorisation” problem logging in on a daily basis now.
I really wish we could help.  I think we've tried many of the obvious things that it could be.  I've never been able to duplicate the error you've been getting.

When you get this error, is there any other information or anything else that we could try to use to diagnose the issue.  I wonder if you'd be able to access the browsers console window.  I think you said you were on a Mac.  I don't use a Mac and are unsure how much we'd gain from this, but it is worth a try.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/safari/sfri20948/mac

When you get the error, try to access the console and we see the log messages.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/console/cnsl1012/mac

It’s really frustrating. I wish there was someone who would reply and help me sort it out.
Always ready to help a damsel in distress.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 06, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
Always ready to help a damsel in distress.



You are a Gentleman and a scholar.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 07, 2023, 02:15:59 AM
You are a Gentleman and a scholar.  :)
I just hope I can help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 07, 2023, 02:17:47 AM
Okay then, a trip down memory lane.

Sarah Louise Young - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Louise_Young - 36E
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 07, 2023, 06:20:01 AM
Okay then, a trip down memory lane.

Sarah Louise Young - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sarah_Louise_Young - 36E

Ohh. I remember this lady appearing on a Friday night show here in England. I don’t think she’s a 36 back, maybe 32. And probably something like 32F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 07, 2023, 12:08:32 PM
Ohh. I remember this lady appearing on a Friday night show here in England.
I'm just trying to remember that.

The next lady is:

Gabbie Carter - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Gabbie_Carter - 32E? 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 07, 2023, 06:33:34 PM
Ohh. I remember this lady appearing on a Friday night show here in England.
I'm just trying to remember that.

The next lady is:

Gabbie Carter - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Gabbie_Carter - 32E?

I was originally thinking 28 back, but 5’7” (if true) pushes her into slightly bigger back size, so maybe 30FF, 32E. But probably more like 28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 08, 2023, 03:19:39 AM
But probably more like 28F.
Cheers.

Okay a tricky one for you.

Jane BestTits - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jane_BestTits - 40J? 

She's a cam girl, so I can only find videos and the odd pic.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 08, 2023, 04:58:15 AM
But probably more like 28F.
Cheers.

Okay a tricky one for you.

Jane BestTits - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jane_BestTits - 40J? 

She's a cam girl, so I can only find videos and the odd pic.

It’s quite difficult to tell without good photos, but she’s broad in the back - so I’d be trying her with a 36 or 38 back band first - and she’s quite full and low set, so I’d be thinking in the realms of JJ or K. 36-38JJ would be my thinking, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 08, 2023, 12:19:02 PM
36-38JJ would be my thinking, but I could be wrong.
I think you have good judgement of these ladies sizes. 

I have a 38JJ in my collection, I've always though it was a huge bra, and correspondingly these are pretty big boobs that fit in it. 

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 09, 2023, 10:27:24 AM
After some googling and asking some questions on another forum, I’ve figured out what needs to be done to prevent the authorisation problem I have on the aMember Pro forum that runs the BEA.

An admin needs to adjust my profile to "Disable auto-locking for this customer”.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 10, 2023, 01:56:21 AM
An admin needs to adjust my profile to "Disable auto-locking for this customer”.
Ah great you've got a solution. I just hope you can contact an admin.

I don't think we've done Brandy Talore - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Talore - 36F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 10, 2023, 03:36:40 AM
An admin needs to adjust my profile to "Disable auto-locking for this customer”.
Ah great you've got a solution. I just hope you can contact an admin.

I don't think we've done Brandy Talore - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Brandy_Talore - 36F?

36F seems awful big in the back, but she is very low set too. I’d maybe think something like 34G might be more her size -  hotel the photos of her very (and she has more droop as she’s gotten older), so it could be something like 34GG.

I’ve no idea how to contact an admin - there isn’t an obvious way to do so.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 11, 2023, 02:32:30 AM
(and she has more droop as she’s gotten older), so it could be something like 34GG.
Thanks for the 34GG.

I’ve no idea how to contact an admin - there isn’t an obvious way to do so.
I think this has been an issue for a while here.  It is like this site is on auto pilot.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 12, 2023, 04:42:33 AM
Quelque chose d'un peu français.

Ava Moore - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ava_Moore (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ava_Moore) - 34C?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 12, 2023, 06:05:53 AM
Quelque chose d'un peu français.

Ava Moore - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ava_Moore (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Ava_Moore) - 34C?

You’d be surprised at how flat a 34C is. It’s usually a broad back with very small cups. This lady looks to have a slim back with reasonably big cups. I’d be thinking she was more like a 28E/F. (28E attached).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 12, 2023, 01:12:01 PM
You’d be surprised at how flat a 34C is.
Even though I now know the formula for bra sizing, I am still surprised how my own preconception of sizes is still a bit off.  I would have been convinced she was a 34C.

I saw a video today where a woman was taping her breasts for shaping - I never knew this was a thing.   I never been with a woman who does this - albeit maybe for an evening dresses.  Is this a common practice?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 12, 2023, 04:03:33 PM
You’d be surprised at how flat a 34C is.
Even though I now know the formula for bra sizing, I am still surprised how my own preconception of sizes is still a bit off.  I would have been convinced she was a 34C.

I saw a video today where a woman was taping her breasts for shaping - I never knew this was a thing.   I never been with a woman who does this - albeit maybe for an evening dresses.  Is this a common practice?

I’ve heard of tit tape, but I’ve never used it. It can help with giving you a good shape/look under a dress where you maybe don’t want to show that you’re wearing a bra. But, as with most of these things, the bigger the boobs, the less effective. Just wear a bra.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 12, 2023, 08:56:12 PM
Margaret, I would love it if you went to the Louisa Khovanski thread and look at her latest photo and try to determine the size of her bra. It looks very undersized.  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on June 12, 2023, 09:00:53 PM
Margaret, I would love it if you went to the Louisa Khovanski thread and look at her latest photo and try to determine the size of her bra. It looks very undersized.  ;D

If someone posts another photo of Louisa before Margaret reads this, she’ll have no idea what post you’re referring to, Sol. You could, at least, provide Margaret with a link (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9998144.840).  <-Click the word “link” to go the the last page of her thread. Go down to reply 848.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 13, 2023, 01:02:15 AM
Ee ba gum.

Hannah Claydon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hannah_Claydon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hannah_Claydon) - BP says 36F - nah I think 32 maybe 34F?

Actually maybe 30F, she is only 5 foot.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 13, 2023, 10:33:32 AM
Margaret, I would love it if you went to the Louisa Khovanski thread and look at her latest photo and try to determine the size of her bra. It looks very undersized.  ;D

Ms Khovanski is a stunningly beautiful lady, who is (probably intentionally) wearing the wrong bra size. I reckon she’s very short and very slim, which makes me think she’s a very slim back, and very full and centred, so almost definitely something like a 28HH, maybe a 28J.

If someone posts another photo of Louisa before Margaret reads this, she’ll have no idea what post you’re referring to, Sol. You could, at least, provide Margaret with a link (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9998144.840).  <-Click the word “link” to go the the last page of her thread. Go down to reply 848.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 13, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
Ee ba gum.

Hannah Claydon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hannah_Claydon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Hannah_Claydon) - BP says 36F - nah I think 32 maybe 34F?

Actually maybe 30F, she is only 5 foot.

30F seems big, possibly more like 28F, maybe 28E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 13, 2023, 12:41:47 PM
30F seems big, possibly more like 28F, maybe 28E.
Ah okay cheers. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 13, 2023, 12:57:02 PM
I just thought I'd throw this one in there.

Miosotis - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Miosotis - 38U!  Maybe some Breast hypertrophy going on here - but she'll need a bra.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 13, 2023, 03:02:27 PM
I just thought I'd throw this one in there.

Miosotis - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Miosotis - 38U!  Maybe some Breast hypertrophy going on here - but she'll need a bra.

We’re kn the realms of a custom bra here. There’s no real significant letters as far as this woman is concerned, as it’s not a standard bra size that’s comparable with someone else. Let’s just say big.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 14, 2023, 01:13:39 AM
Let’s just say big.
Ha ha .. yes.

One of my fav models from the 70's.

Gillian Duxbury - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Gillian_Duxbury - 34C?  As I tend to underestimate, I will go with 32DD.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 14, 2023, 01:20:01 AM
Let’s just say big.
Ha ha .. yes.

One of my fav models from the 70's.

Gillian Duxbury - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Gillian_Duxbury - 34C?  As I tend to underestimate, I will go with 32DD.  What do you think?

I don’t think she’s a 32 or a 34 back. She looks more like a 28 or 30. Possibly 28E or 30DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 15, 2023, 01:32:21 AM
I don’t think she’s a 32 or a 34 back. She looks more like a 28 or 30. Possibly 28E or 30DD.
Initially I was thinking 28 or 30, but then I doubted myself and went for 32.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 17, 2023, 10:50:35 AM
I think BP are way out with this young lady.  Maybe 28 something.

India Reynolds - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/India_Reynolds - 32E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 17, 2023, 11:15:49 AM
I think BP are way out with this young lady.  Maybe 28 something.

India Reynolds - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/India_Reynolds - 32E?

Yeah, my first thought was a 32 back seems big - although, she’s 5’6” so it’s not impossible. I’m 5’5” and I’m a 32 back - but I have waaay bigger boobs than her and I’m a FF, so she’s not a 32E. If she’s a 32 back, then she’s more like 32D. But I suspect she’s a 30 back, maybe 30D.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 18, 2023, 01:00:45 AM
Today's contestant is:

Charlene Hutchinson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Chaz - 38H?  I think 38 is too big, 34 or even 32, she is only 5 ft 2 in.  Her cups are pretty big though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 18, 2023, 03:45:58 AM
Today's contestant is:

Charlene Hutchinson - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Chaz - 38H?  I think 38 is too big, 34 or even 32, she is only 5 ft 2 in.  Her cups are pretty big though.

38 back seems really big for someone so short (and she has a tiny waist). 34-35 seems about right and she’s up in the HH/J category.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 19, 2023, 11:37:39 AM
Happy 60th to Paula Abdul.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paula_Abdul (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paula_Abdul)

I reckon 34DD.

Edit: no wait, she is only 5 ft.  32C (I have no idea to be honest haha)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 19, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Happy 60th to Paula Abdul.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paula_Abdul (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Paula_Abdul)

I reckon 34DD.

Edit: no wait, she is only 5 ft.  32C (I have no idea to be honest haha)

Yeah. She’s teeny-tiny and slim. Possibly something like 32C/30D.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 21, 2023, 02:49:39 AM
I can't believe Tracy Neve is 57!

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tracy_Neve - but is she a 36E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 21, 2023, 03:40:46 AM
I can't believe Tracy Neve is 57!

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Tracy_Neve - but is she a 36E?

36 back seems big, although, I don’t doubt she was maybe wearing a 36DD/E bra in the 90s (I know I did - just about everyone did).

She looks more like a 32-34E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 21, 2023, 05:50:04 AM
36 back seems big, although, I don’t doubt she was maybe wearing a 36DD/E bra in the 90s (I know I did - just about everyone did).
Were women wearing 36DD/E due to design of bras back then - or were women just getting it wrong?  I assume bras haven't really evolved much since the 90's, are we just better at getting the sizing right these days.

She looks more like a 32-34E.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 21, 2023, 06:04:31 AM
36 back seems big, although, I don’t doubt she was maybe wearing a 36DD/E bra in the 90s (I know I did - just about everyone did).
Were women wearing 36DD/E due to design of bras back then - or were women just getting it wrong?  I assume bras haven't really evolved much since the 90's, are we just better at getting the sizing right these days.

She looks more like a 32-34E.
Cheers.

I think it was more a case of there were about 3 or 4 types of bra: small boobs, medium boobs and big granny boobs. You also had totally impractical lingerie that didn’t fit anyone ever. And, sizing was woeful. I just assumed I was a 34/36D because that’s what seemed to hold my boobs in and fit.

Bras have improved significantly - although, the general mechanics hasn’t changed. Back band, cups, straps, side panel, underwire - that’s what most bras are. But we have much better techniques now, much better materials - and a wider range to choose from - especially for really big boobs (the so-called DD+). I think there’s also been massive improvements in strapless bras, support bras and bras for different boob shapes and/or occasions. It really started to kick in around the mid-2000s when companies realised they were not just getting sizing wrong, but we’re missing out in a really big market. We also get nice colours for big boob bras, gorgeous materials and so much more choice. In the 90s, it was white, black or nude - or, something that took half an hour to put on and was really uncomfortable, but helped heat things up in the bedroom. (Also, I have to confess, wearing sexy lingerie - even if it’s not comfortable, can be quite exciting).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 22, 2023, 01:54:45 AM
It really started to kick in around the mid-2000s when companies realised they were not just getting sizing wrong, but we’re missing out in a really big market.
So before 2000 was the process of measuring a woman as we understand it today different.  Bra sizes are the same,  I wonder how they got so wrong back then?

It is interesting about materials for bras these days - I wonder if this is where the next advancement will take place.   I'd imagine a bra could be developed to have different properties at certain points.  As I see it, bras are elasticated, but this elasticity doesn't vary much, but this isn't necessarily the best way to give support to a woman's breasts that are dynamic.  Some boffin will come up with something sometime.

IIn the 90s, it was white, black or nude - or, something that took half an hour to put on and was really uncomfortable
I remember pursuing my mums clothes catalog and seeing just that. I wasn't hugely inspiring

(Also, I have to confess, wearing sexy lingerie - even if it’s not comfortable, can be quite exciting).
This is why I like lingerie so much - its an enhancement to a woman's beauty. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 02:50:36 AM
It really started to kick in around the mid-2000s when companies realised they were not just getting sizing wrong, but we’re missing out in a really big market.
So before 2000 was the process of measuring a woman as we understand it today different.  Bra sizes are the same,  I wonder how they got so wrong back then?

It is interesting about materials for bras these days - I wonder if this is where the next advancement will take place.   I'd imagine a bra could be developed to have different properties at certain points.  As I see it, bras are elasticated, but this elasticity doesn't vary much, but this isn't necessarily the best way to give support to a woman's breasts that are dynamic.  Some boffin will come up with something sometime.

IIn the 90s, it was white, black or nude - or, something that took half an hour to put on and was really uncomfortable
I remember pursuing my mums clothes catalog and seeing just that. I wasn't hugely inspiring

(Also, I have to confess, wearing sexy lingerie - even if it’s not comfortable, can be quite exciting).
This is why I like lingerie so much - its an enhancement to a woman's beauty.

The biggest issue pre-2000 (and it’s still an issue today) was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm. Prior to the 1970s, bra sizing worked differently. The “number” was the your full bust measurement, and the “cup size” was an approximation of how busty a woman was. So a 36C bra was meant to fit someone who measured 36" across the fullest part of their bust, not the underbust, and a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean. There was very little standardisation between brands, and sizing was all over the place. In the late 1970s, a consortium of lingerie makers decided on a new sizing system - which is quite close to the one we use today, where the cup size is the difference between the underbust measurement and the overbust measurement (more or less).

In order to ease the transition from the old system to the new, they told customers to add 4 inches (sometimes it was 5). That way, they'd stay in their old, familiar size, and gradually get used to the new system. So, someone who was a 30J in the new system could end up being a 36F with the plus 4 system.

Obviously that plan failed spectacularly, because we ended up stuck with a method that goes against how the system is supposed to work.

Now, we have a lot more standardisation of the underbust/overbust method - plus, fitting. I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size. Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra.

In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work. However, they’ve managed to get some things right: the back band does all the hard work, so start there and the rest tends to follow. In terms of materials, bras are made of two main components (there’s actually dozens more though): cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials - which allows for a certain size of back band to fit within a range (32” band should fit anyone within a 31-33 back reasonably comfortably) and then you also have the hooks/eyes to compensate for differences (and wear/tear and stretching of the material over time).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 22, 2023, 07:09:26 AM
It really started to kick in around the mid-2000s when companies realised they were not just getting sizing wrong, but we’re missing out in a really big market.
So before 2000 was the process of measuring a woman as we understand it today different.  Bra sizes are the same,  I wonder how they got so wrong back then?

It is interesting about materials for bras these days - I wonder if this is where the next advancement will take place.   I'd imagine a bra could be developed to have different properties at certain points.  As I see it, bras are elasticated, but this elasticity doesn't vary much, but this isn't necessarily the best way to give support to a woman's breasts that are dynamic.  Some boffin will come up with something sometime.

IIn the 90s, it was white, black or nude - or, something that took half an hour to put on and was really uncomfortable
I remember pursuing my mums clothes catalog and seeing just that. I wasn't hugely inspiring

(Also, I have to confess, wearing sexy lingerie - even if it’s not comfortable, can be quite exciting).
This is why I like lingerie so much - its an enhancement to a woman's beauty.

The biggest issue pre-2000 (and it’s still an issue today) was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm. Prior to the 1970s, bra sizing worked differently. The “number” was the your full bust measurement, and the “cup size” was an approximation of how busty a woman was. So a 36C bra was meant to fit someone who measured 36" across the fullest part of their bust, not the underbust, and a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean. There was very little standardisation between brands, and sizing was all over the place. In the late 1970s, a consortium of lingerie makers decided on a new sizing system - which is quite close to the one we use today, where the cup size is the difference between the underbust measurement and the overbust measurement (more or less).

In order to ease the transition from the old system to the new, they told customers to add 4 inches (sometimes it was 5). That way, they'd stay in their old, familiar size, and gradually get used to the new system. So, someone who was a 30J in the new system could end up being a 36F with the plus 4 system.

Obviously that plan failed spectacularly, because we ended up stuck with a method that goes against how the system is supposed to work.

Now, we have a lot more standardisation of the underbust/overbust method - plus, fitting. I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size. Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra.

In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work. However, they’ve managed to get some things right: the back band does all the hard work, so start there and the rest tends to follow. In terms of materials, bras are made of two main components (there’s actually dozens more though): cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials - which allows for a certain size of back band to fit within a range (32” band should fit anyone within a 31-33 back reasonably comfortably) and then you also have the hooks/eyes to compensate for differences (and wear/tear and stretching of the material over time).

I read this and I adore women, the way they look, the softness of their skin, their melodic voices and many other fine attributes of them but I'm so happy I don't need to get fitted with a bra.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 09:21:19 AM
It really started to kick in around the mid-2000s when companies realised they were not just getting sizing wrong, but we’re missing out in a really big market.
So before 2000 was the process of measuring a woman as we understand it today different.  Bra sizes are the same,  I wonder how they got so wrong back then?

It is interesting about materials for bras these days - I wonder if this is where the next advancement will take place.   I'd imagine a bra could be developed to have different properties at certain points.  As I see it, bras are elasticated, but this elasticity doesn't vary much, but this isn't necessarily the best way to give support to a woman's breasts that are dynamic.  Some boffin will come up with something sometime.

IIn the 90s, it was white, black or nude - or, something that took half an hour to put on and was really uncomfortable
I remember pursuing my mums clothes catalog and seeing just that. I wasn't hugely inspiring

(Also, I have to confess, wearing sexy lingerie - even if it’s not comfortable, can be quite exciting).
This is why I like lingerie so much - its an enhancement to a woman's beauty.

The biggest issue pre-2000 (and it’s still an issue today) was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm. Prior to the 1970s, bra sizing worked differently. The “number” was the your full bust measurement, and the “cup size” was an approximation of how busty a woman was. So a 36C bra was meant to fit someone who measured 36" across the fullest part of their bust, not the underbust, and a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean. There was very little standardisation between brands, and sizing was all over the place. In the late 1970s, a consortium of lingerie makers decided on a new sizing system - which is quite close to the one we use today, where the cup size is the difference between the underbust measurement and the overbust measurement (more or less).

In order to ease the transition from the old system to the new, they told customers to add 4 inches (sometimes it was 5). That way, they'd stay in their old, familiar size, and gradually get used to the new system. So, someone who was a 30J in the new system could end up being a 36F with the plus 4 system.

Obviously that plan failed spectacularly, because we ended up stuck with a method that goes against how the system is supposed to work.

Now, we have a lot more standardisation of the underbust/overbust method - plus, fitting. I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size. Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra.

In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work. However, they’ve managed to get some things right: the back band does all the hard work, so start there and the rest tends to follow. In terms of materials, bras are made of two main components (there’s actually dozens more though): cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials - which allows for a certain size of back band to fit within a range (32” band should fit anyone within a 31-33 back reasonably comfortably) and then you also have the hooks/eyes to compensate for differences (and wear/tear and stretching of the material over time).

I read this and I adore women, the way they look, the softness of their skin, their melodic voices and many other fine attributes of them but I'm so happy I don't need to get fitted with a bra.  ;) ;D

😂 getting Fitted for a bra is not so bad. The big issue is if the fitter isn’t confident or experienced - or if you’ve never had it done before - then it can be awkward/embarrassing. But if the person knows what they’re doing, they can put you at ease and make it feel like a worthwhile experience. Having been fitted and having fitted literally hundreds of women in my time, I know it can be a terrific feeling to discover your true bra size, and not be made to feel bad about the experience. If all things were equal, and I had the choice, I wouldn’t wear a bra. But it’s a necessity, for all manner of reasons - breast health, posture, comfort, shape, modesty etc. I currently own bras that niggle for some tiny reason - maybe the bra is out of shape, maybe the materials are not quite right, maybe it’s the wrong fit, maybe it just doesn’t suit me. But, I can say in all honesty, when you get the right bra fit, when you find your unicorn bra, and you put it on and do all the necessary adjustments, wiggles, jiggles, swoops and scoops, there are few better feelings in life. You feel happy, comfortable, confident - and, dare I say it, sexy. I own some bras that are an absolute joy to put on in the morning for work, or for a night out - they don’t have to be expensive, just well-made - and the correct fit.

But, as I’ve said before, it can be a relief to take off at the end of the day too.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 09:58:56 AM
On the subject of bras (is it ever anything other than boobs and bras on the BEA?) - I literally have dozens of bras that I no longer wear. Some are almost new. I have no real idea what to do with them. Selling them on eBay can be a pain. Posting abroad (USA etc) and be expensive (I’m in the UK), but I’d be open to offers, if I could figure out a safe way of sending funds etc. All suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 22, 2023, 11:49:57 AM
was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm.
I had no idea - that is an interesting anecdote.  I'll ask women I know about this.   I bet they have no clue.

a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean.
It had to have been a nightmare to get a good fit.

I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size.  Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra. 
I agree - actually I am a size 9 - and to illustrate the point you a making, I bought some new trainers recently - tried them on in the store and 9 1/2 was a better fit.  Now if I'd not tried them on and bought them online I'd have the wrong size.


In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work.
I guess that is the real issue - my idea is (not well researched I'd admit) using a material that forms a shape after some sort of process.  Almost like a memory foam mattress.

There are materials that exhibit somewhat similar properties.  You can get  heat shrink tubing for electronics.  It s rubber tube once heated shrinks to shape. It's fascinating stuff. Imagine putting on a bra and having it precisely fit to your shape after processing - and for it to stay that shape and still have its elasticity.

But then I have never worn a bra - so ultimately I suspect a woman would come up with a solution.

cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials
My bag of bras is next to me here in the attic - I will dig one out and have a better look at the construction.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 22, 2023, 12:07:26 PM
then it can be awkward/embarrassing. But if the person knows what they’re doing, they can put you at ease and make it feel like a worthwhile experience.
I was going to ask you about that - how does one go about getting a bra fit.  All the women I know haven't been fitted I'm sure about that.


I wouldn’t wear a bra.
Had a friend come over yesterday - she didn't wear a bra - my male neighbor wanted to chat - I think she felt a bit uncomfortable without one one - but it was a hot day.

just well-made - and the correct fit.
My bra less friend above always buys expensive shoes for that reason.

But, as I’ve said before, it can be a relief to take off at the end of the day too.
The number of time I've seen her come home from work and the first thing that comes off is the bra.  The cool thing is doing without taking the blouse off.  It's like a magic trick.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: TheZookie007 on June 22, 2023, 12:10:17 PM
Hi Margaret, perhaps you recognize the model of bra and therefore can get a size?

This is Wendy Fiore, who according to the interwebs is 1.65 m (5' 5") tall.


(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439673.0;attach=934697;image)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 22, 2023, 12:57:25 PM
All suggestions welcome.
You could post your bras in the https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?board=16.0 section.

I don't know how people handle payments though - gotta be PayPal probably.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 02:49:24 PM
Hi Margaret, perhaps you recognize the model of bra and therefore can get a size?

This is Wendy Fiore, who according to the interwebs is 1.65 m (5' 5") tall.


(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439673.0;attach=934697;image)

I thought I had done this lady before, I can be sure though.

I watched a video of her saying she was trying on a 32HH, but she was measured at 30J (but she felt the 30J was too restrictive). I reckon she’s there or thereabouts. Possibly 30JJ, but equally a 32HH/J might work well.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 03:36:40 PM
then it can be awkward/embarrassing. But if the person knows what they’re doing, they can put you at ease and make it feel like a worthwhile experience.
I was going to ask you about that - how does one go about getting a bra fit.  All the women I know haven't been fitted I'm sure about that.


I wouldn’t wear a bra.
Had a friend come over yesterday - she didn't wear a bra - my male neighbor wanted to chat - I think she felt a bit uncomfortable without one one - but it was a hot day.

just well-made - and the correct fit.
My bra less friend above always buys expensive shoes for that reason.

But, as I’ve said before, it can be a relief to take off at the end of the day too.
The number of time I've seen her come home from work and the first thing that comes off is the bra.  The cool thing is doing without taking the blouse off.  It's like a magic trick.

Most high street stores do bra fittings, but the best places are either small, private outlets - or somewhere like Bravissimo (for bigger boobs). But really, and good department store should have a fitter. You can also do virtual fittings with some places like Curvy Kate.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 22, 2023, 03:41:03 PM
All suggestions welcome.
You could post your bras in the https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?board=16.0 section.

I don't know how people handle payments though - gotta be PayPal probably.

Hmm. Doesn’t look like it’s used much. Really not keen on PayPal either. Too much personal data available. Hmmmm
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 12:43:32 AM
Too much personal data available.
That is going to be the real challenge for any online sale - at some point you're going to have to exchange personal details. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 12:50:59 AM
either small, private outlets
Yes have one of those near me. It a specialist bra shop - they do a bra fitting service.  Its one of the only bra specialists I've ever seen to be honest. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 12:55:37 AM
Okay back to the challenge.

Via Paxton - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Via_Paxton - BP states F, I'm going to disregard that, she is H at least?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 02:21:12 AM
Okay back to the challenge.

Via Paxton - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Via_Paxton - BP states F, I'm going to disregard that, she is H at least?

If she’s 5’8”, then she’s bigger than F. She’s quite broad in the back, but her boob size seems to vary from photo to photo, so I’m assuming she’s gained weight and grown over the years.

If I was to guess, I’d say 32 or 34 back - and possibly G/GG. I’ll go for 34G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 02:21:56 AM
Too much personal data available.
That is going to be the real challenge for any online sale - at some point you're going to have to exchange personal details.

I think there’s a service called CashApp that’s anonymous (mostly), but I’ve never tried it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 03:34:09 AM
For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

India Reynolds
30
D
Paola Ruiz
28
D
Gillian Duxbury
30
DD
Alex Jones
30
E
Christy Canyon
32
E
Eva Herzigova
30
E
Tracy Neve
34
E
Alexis May
32
F
Amanda Davidson
28
F
Ava Moore
28
F
Christina Lucci
32
F
Diane Kruger
28
F
Gabbie Carter
28
F
Hannah Claydon
28
F
Ines Cudna
34
F
Marilyn Lange
34
F
Milly Morris
34
F
Pat Wynn
34
F
Sarah Louise Young
32
F
Sunny Wagner
36
F
Angela White
32
FF
April O'Neill
28
FF
Daisy van Heyden
26
FF
Devin Brugman
28
FF
Katerina Konec
34
FF
Luna Amor
34
FF
Sam Fox
28
FF
Abigail Ratchford
34
G
Ashley Juggs
34
G
Bettie Ballhaus
30
G
Brandy Ryder
40
G
Fiona Siciliano
30
G
Janet Lupo
30
G
Janne Hollan
38
G
Joey Fisher.
32
G
Joyce Gibson
34
G
Juliana Simms
40
G
Maggie Green
34
G
Maritza Mendez
32
G
Petra Verkaik.
32
G
Roberta Smallwood
42
G
Zuzanna Drabinova
30
G
Brandy Talore
34
GG
Donna Ambrose
32
GG
Maria Whittaker
30
GG
Marketa Pechova
26
GG
Montana Mounds
34
GG
Roberta Pedon
34
GG
Sensual Jane
34
GG
Valory Irene
34
GG
Virginia Bell
32
GG
Carol Kirkwood
34
H
Faith Nelson
30
H
Kerry Marie
36
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Yulia Nova
30
H
Alexsis Faye.
36
HH
Alina (SiliconeFree) -
36
HH
Bea Flora
34
HH
Carolina Sukie
36
HH
Mady Gio
32
HH
Michelle Monaghan
34
HH
Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Wendy Fiore
32
HH
Ashley Ellison
36
J
Charlene Hutchinson
34
J
Jennica Lynn
38
J
Kelly Madison
34
J
Kimberly Kupps
36
J
Lilith Grant
34
J
September Carrino
28
J
Agnetis Miracle.
34
JJ
Amanda Torres
38
JJ
Chesty Morgan
34
JJ
Emilia Boshe
38
JJ
Hitomi Tanaka
26
JJ
Jana Defi
30
JJ
Jane BestTits
38
JJ
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Maria Body
34
JJ
Sarah Nicola Randall
30
JJ
Alicia Loren
38
K
Milena Velba
38
K
Stacy Vandenberg
32
K
Anastasiya Berthier
34
KK
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
Leanne Crow
34
L
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Nadine Jansen
38
LL
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 05:40:52 AM
For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

India Reynolds
30
D
Paola Ruiz
28
D
Gillian Duxbury
30
DD
Alex Jones
30
E
Christy Canyon
32
E
Eva Herzigova
30
E
Tracy Neve
34
E
Alexis May
32
F
Amanda Davidson
28
F
Ava Moore
28
F
Christina Lucci
32
F
Diane Kruger
28
F
Gabbie Carter
28
F
Hannah Claydon
28
F
Ines Cudna
34
F
Marilyn Lange
34
F
Milly Morris
34
F
Pat Wynn
34
F
Sarah Louise Young
32
F
Sunny Wagner
36
F
Angela White
32
FF
April O'Neill
28
FF
Daisy van Heyden
26
FF
Devin Brugman
28
FF
Katerina Konec
34
FF
Luna Amor
34
FF
Sam Fox
28
FF
Abigail Ratchford
34
G
Ashley Juggs
34
G
Bettie Ballhaus
30
G
Brandy Ryder
40
G
Fiona Siciliano
30
G
Janet Lupo
30
G
Janne Hollan
38
G
Joey Fisher.
32
G
Joyce Gibson
34
G
Juliana Simms
40
G
Maggie Green
34
G
Maritza Mendez
32
G
Petra Verkaik.
32
G
Roberta Smallwood
42
G
Zuzanna Drabinova
30
G
Brandy Talore
34
GG
Donna Ambrose
32
GG
Maria Whittaker
30
GG
Marketa Pechova
26
GG
Montana Mounds
34
GG
Roberta Pedon
34
GG
Sensual Jane
34
GG
Valory Irene
34
GG
Virginia Bell
32
GG
Carol Kirkwood
34
H
Faith Nelson
30
H
Kerry Marie
36
H
Terry Nova
34
H
Yulia Nova
30
H
Alexsis Faye.
36
HH
Alina (SiliconeFree) -
36
HH
Bea Flora
34
HH
Carolina Sukie
36
HH
Mady Gio
32
HH
Michelle Monaghan
34
HH
Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Wendy Fiore
32
HH
Ashley Ellison
36
J
Charlene Hutchinson
34
J
Jennica Lynn
38
J
Kelly Madison
34
J
Kimberly Kupps
36
J
Lilith Grant
34
J
September Carrino
28
J
Agnetis Miracle.
34
JJ
Amanda Torres
38
JJ
Chesty Morgan
34
JJ
Emilia Boshe
38
JJ
Hitomi Tanaka
26
JJ
Jana Defi
30
JJ
Jane BestTits
38
JJ
Lorna Morgan
30
JJ
Maria Body
34
JJ
Sarah Nicola Randall
30
JJ
Alicia Loren
38
K
Milena Velba
38
K
Stacy Vandenberg
32
K
Anastasiya Berthier
34
KK
Antonella Kahllo
32
KK
Kira Liv
36
L
Leanne Crow
34
L
Abbi Secraa
36
LL
Nadine Jansen
38
LL

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 09:18:46 AM
was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm.
I had no idea - that is an interesting anecdote.  I'll ask women I know about this.   I bet they have no clue.

a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean.
It had to have been a nightmare to get a good fit.

I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size.  Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra. 
I agree - actually I am a size 9 - and to illustrate the point you a making, I bought some new trainers recently - tried them on in the store and 9 1/2 was a better fit.  Now if I'd not tried them on and bought them online I'd have the wrong size.


In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work.
I guess that is the real issue - my idea is (not well researched I'd admit) using a material that forms a shape after some sort of process.  Almost like a memory foam mattress.

There are materials that exhibit somewhat similar properties.  You can get  heat shrink tubing for electronics.  It s rubber tube once heated shrinks to shape. It's fascinating stuff. Imagine putting on a bra and having it precisely fit to your shape after processing - and for it to stay that shape and still have its elasticity.

But then I have never worn a bra - so ultimately I suspect a woman would come up with a solution.

cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials
My bag of bras is next to me here in the attic - I will dig one out and have a better look at the construction.

You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.

What bras do you have and what sizes?

I really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 12:25:55 PM
Lots of FF (close to my heart!)
Literally and figuratively...

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).
You've just given me an idea...

Penelope Cruz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penelope_Cruz - BP says 34C - maybe at some point, but she is bigger than that now.

Attached is data in graph form.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 23, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.
All donated.  Jeez I have even have a leather skirt and a maids outfit.

What bras do you have and what size
I did post pics of most of them earlier on in the thread - I was going through them the other day and found a matching pair of briefs and bra.  I've had them for years and never noticed before.   

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.150

YI really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.
Yeah that would be great.  There would be a lot of unpicking.  My first job after school was working in a high end clothing manufacturer - my job was to cut materials from patterns to be machined.  I have an appreciation of how complex clothing is to put together.  But a bra is something else.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 01:27:28 PM
You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.
All donated.  Jeez I have even have a leather skirt and a maids outfit.

What bras do you have and what size
I did post pics of most of them earlier on in the thread - I was going through them the other day and found a matching pair of briefs and bra.  I've had them for years and never noticed before.   

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.150

YI really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.
Yeah that would be great.  There would be a lot of unpicking.  My first job after school was working in a high end clothing manufacturer - my job was to cut materials from patterns to be machined.  I have an appreciation of how complex clothing is to put together.  But a bra is something else.

That’s a nice plunge bra! (I’ve never been able to get them to work for me).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 23, 2023, 01:28:50 PM
Lots of FF (close to my heart!)
Literally and figuratively...

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).
You've just given me an idea...

Penelope Cruz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penelope_Cruz - BP says 34C - maybe at some point, but she is bigger than that now.

Attached is data in graph form.

Penelope: it’s probably going to be something like a 28D/E. Not big in the cups at all. Pert.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on June 23, 2023, 06:05:36 PM
For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Wendy Fiore
32
HH

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

Tessa and Wendy are the same cup size?  I guess that's because Tessa is so much shorter, but wow, I would of thought Wendy's cup size would be much bigger.

But if you want more, how about Anri Okita?  Boobpedia says 5'6" and a 34 band, which seems big.
But for cup size... I just don't know.  In these pics she was absolutely huge.

Would you mind estimating some regular **28**?  There are some that have no nude or topless pictures that I've always wondered at their real measurements....

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 24, 2023, 03:21:35 AM
For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

Tessa Fowler
28
HH
Wendy Fiore
32
HH

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

Tessa and Wendy are the same cup size?  I guess that's because Tessa is so much shorter, but wow, I would of thought Wendy's cup size would be much bigger.

But if you want more, how about Anri Okita?  Boobpedia says 5'6" and a 34 band, which seems big.
But for cup size... I just don't know.  In these pics she was absolutely huge.

Would you mind estimating some regular **28**?  There are some that have no nude or topless pictures that I've always wondered at their real measurements....

Remember that while their cup sizes are the same, their band sizes are four inches apart - and while the band size represents the underbust measurement, it also adds material to the cups. There’s a world of difference between, say, a 28J and a  34J.

Anri looks like she’d be something like a 32F, maybe a 30FF - but her boobs vary in photos, so perhaps she’s grown. Possibly up as high as 30/32GG.

In terms of estimating regular women - I wouldn’t be comfortable if it was done without their consent. I know I’m estimating models on here without their consent - but they’re women who have out their photos into the public domain willingly and would especially the images to be pored over, so to speak. If wouldn’t be keen on estimating a random woman’s bra size from her social media photos, if she wasn’t someone who engaged in something like modelling or something similar. You could always send me a private message about it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 24, 2023, 03:43:24 AM
Penelope: it’s probably going to be something like a 28D/E. Not big in the cups at all. Pert.
Cheers - actually I was thinking of Salma Hayek, got them mixed up.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Salma_Hayek -36E?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 24, 2023, 04:14:26 AM
Penelope: it’s probably going to be something like a 28D/E. Not big in the cups at all. Pert.
Cheers - actually I was thinking of Salma Hayek, got them mixed up.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Salma_Hayek -36E?

I literally spat my coffee out when I saw 36E (see pic below). Salma Hayek is about 5’2” in her socks. She’s the tiniest of tiniest of tiny.

She’s more like a 28FF/G.

36E attached.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on June 24, 2023, 11:20:09 AM
In terms of estimating regular women - I wouldn’t be comfortable if it was done without their consent. I know I’m estimating models on here without their consent - but they’re women who have out their photos into the public domain willingly and would especially the images to be pored over, so to speak. If wouldn’t be keen on estimating a random woman’s bra size from her social media photos, if she wasn’t someone who engaged in something like modelling or something similar. You could always send me a private message about it.

Nah, that's fine.
I respect your decision.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Anonymouse on June 24, 2023, 11:25:56 AM
In terms of estimating regular women - I wouldn’t be comfortable if it was done without their consent. I know I’m estimating models on here without their consent - but they’re women who have out their photos into the public domain willingly and would especially the images to be pored over, so to speak. If wouldn’t be keen on estimating a random woman’s bra size from her social media photos, if she wasn’t someone who engaged in something like modelling or something similar. You could always send me a private message about it.

Nah, that's fine.
I respect your decision.

Although... that's weird. 
I don't remember exactly what word I used that got censored, but I am sure it wasn't one on the published list.

I was trying to say 'actress' but it was some other word close to it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 26, 2023, 03:55:55 AM
I can't remember if we've done Katy Perry?

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katy_Perry - 32E? Going on the pics that maybe a good estimation - although hasn't she had a bambino since, so she maybe larger now.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 26, 2023, 04:04:55 AM
I can't remember if we've done Katy Perry?

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Katy_Perry - 32E? Going on the pics that maybe a good estimation - although hasn't she had a bambino since, so she maybe larger now.

I don’t think she’s a 32 back, but she’s quite tall, so maybe. She’ll be around 30/32D or DD. Maybe E at a push.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 26, 2023, 01:19:47 PM
Here's a woman I haven't heard about for sometime:  A beautiful woman.

Caroline Munro -https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Caroline_Munro - 38C < nope.  My estimate is 30DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 26, 2023, 01:53:47 PM
Here's a woman I haven't heard about for sometime:  A beautiful woman.

Caroline Munro -https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Caroline_Munro - 38C < nope.  My estimate is 30DD.

Yep. Never a 38 back. Possibly 30/32. D/DD seems about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 27, 2023, 02:13:53 AM
One of my favourite genres is the hot older woman.

So that said:

Penny Porsche - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penny_Porsche - she isn't a 38F I feel sure.  My guess is 34G maybe H.

 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 27, 2023, 02:30:45 AM
One of my favourite genres is the hot older woman.

So that said:

Penny Porsche - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penny_Porsche - she isn't a 38F I feel sure.  My guess is 34G maybe H.

38 back seems a bit unrealistic, although she is reasonably tall, so I’m going to aim for a 32-34 back, probably 34.

I’m not certain her boobs are big enough to be H. She looks *almost* the same size as me, and I’m 32FF, so I’m thinking maybe 34FF, but possibly 34G.

BTW - she’s absolutely gorgeous. I’d never ever compare myself to someone like her, but a good few years back (before my little ones came along), I wasn’t a million miles away from her bodyshape and look. Not any more though. Still got the boobs, but as time goes on, the rest starts to abandon you.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 27, 2023, 02:55:32 AM
I’m not certain her boobs are big enough to be H. She looks *almost* the same size as me, and I’m 32FF, so I’m thinking maybe 34FF, but possibly 34G.
I'll put her down as a 34G - I was tempted to say G, but then thought she may be bigger.

BTW - she’s absolutely gorgeous. I’d never ever compare myself to someone like her, but a good few years back (before my little ones came along), I wasn’t a million miles away from her bodyshape and look. Not any more though.
She is one of my favs.

I must admit I have been curious - is there is a model you've seen who you thought have/had a similar shape to your own.  I have a female friend that tells me often about how the woman in the picture has the same body she used to have.  Honestly I'm never quite sure how to answer that.

Still got the boobs, but as time goes on, the rest starts to abandon you.
I was having this discussion yesterday - slowing down the ageing process is probably the best we (any of us) can do.  I see a lot of older ladies with fantastic boobs, I wonder why breast tissue acts different than other parts of a woman's body. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 27, 2023, 03:14:24 AM
I’m not certain her boobs are big enough to be H. She looks *almost* the same size as me, and I’m 32FF, so I’m thinking maybe 34FF, but possibly 34G.
I'll put her down as a 34G - I was tempted to say G, but then thought she may be bigger.

BTW - she’s absolutely gorgeous. I’d never ever compare myself to someone like her, but a good few years back (before my little ones came along), I wasn’t a million miles away from her bodyshape and look. Not any more though.
She is one of my favs.

I must admit I have been curious - is there is a model you've seen who you thought have/had a similar shape to your own.  I have a female friend that tells me often about how the woman in the picture has the same body she used to have.  Honestly I'm never quite sure how to answer that.

Still got the boobs, but as time goes on, the rest starts to abandon you.
I was having this discussion yesterday - slowing down the ageing process is probably the best we (any of us) can do.  I see a lot of older ladies with fantastic boobs, I wonder why breast tissue acts different than other parts of a woman's body.

The closest I’ve seen to my own height/shape and boobs is Danni Ashe (I’m talking when I was much younger here - like, 25). We have the same bodyshape, almost exactly same shape and size of boobs and we’re about the same height. Of course, she kept her figure and is anabsolutely gorgeous goddess - I’m not in her league at all. But when I see her photos, I recognise my own body (when I was younger). My body warped out of shape after pregnancy, and never really went back to what it was. The boobs got bigger, then got smaller (ie. smaller than when they got bigger. Not smaller than they were before they got bigger). And my hips and arse got bigger, and my thighs and my belly. I’ve got some of it back, but it’s not what it was and it is what it is.

Add: I should say, I don’t want anyone to think I’m comparing myself to Danni or that I look like her. But we definitely have/had almost identical bodyshape and boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 27, 2023, 05:44:50 AM
Just wondering how you feel about this method of bra fitting.  ;) ;D An old cartoon from Bill Ward (1919-1998) and this was done back in the early 60's and you can tell his generation was politically incorrect.  ;D He served in the US Army in World War 2.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 27, 2023, 07:22:11 AM
Just wondering how you feel about this method of bra fitting.  ;) ;D An old cartoon from Bill Ward (1919-1998) and this was done back in the early 60's and you can tell his generation was politically incorrect.  ;D He served in the US Army in World War 2.  :)

😂😂😂 very amusing. I’ve seen a lot of old-fashioned UK seaside postcards like this.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 27, 2023, 07:48:22 AM
Just wondering how you feel about this method of bra fitting.  ;) ;D An old cartoon from Bill Ward (1919-1998) and this was done back in the early 60's and you can tell his generation was politically incorrect.  ;D He served in the US Army in World War 2.  :)

😂😂😂 very amusing. I’ve seen a lot of old-fashioned UK seaside postcards like this.

I'm glad you like it. Too many people nowadays are so pathetically thin skinned that you have to walk on eggshells to deal with them. I know you are, what in the old days was called, a good broad.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 27, 2023, 11:56:17 AM
The closest I’ve seen to my own height/shape and boobs is Danni Ashe (I’m talking when I was much younger here - like, 25).
She was the most viewed woman in the 90's - (in theory) you could have gained the same adulation if the situation had been different.  I'd feel quite chuffed by that thought if it was me - even if it was never going to happen.

Add: I should say, I don’t want anyone to think I’m comparing myself to Danni or that I look like her. But we definitely have/had almost identical bodyshape and boobs.
You're probably being too modest - but I understand your point.

I think the interesting thing about Danni's body was the shape of her boobs, they really did hit the spot on every metric.  But she had everything really, not just boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 27, 2023, 12:06:02 PM
Okay then. This woman has some Danni Ashe-esque boobs.

Leila Lowfire - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Leila_Lowfire - 34G?  Maybe G...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 27, 2023, 12:19:47 PM
Okay then. This woman has some Danni Ashe-esque boobs.

Leila Lowfire - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Leila_Lowfire - 34G?  Maybe G...

Goodness, she is beautiful.

I think 34G isn’t too wide of the mark. Possibly 32G, but it’ll be there or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 27, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Just wondering how you feel about this method of bra fitting.  ;) ;D An old cartoon from Bill Ward (1919-1998) and this was done back in the early 60's and you can tell his generation was politically incorrect.  ;D He served in the US Army in World War 2.  :)

😂😂😂 very amusing. I’ve seen a lot of old-fashioned UK seaside postcards like this.

I'm glad you like it. Too many people nowadays are so pathetically thin skinned that you have to walk on eggshells to deal with them. I know you are, what in the old days was called, a good broad.  :)

Thank you. I’m still a feminist and 100% behind being respectful towards women. I have found this forum fascinating - and, if I’m honest, if any of my friends of family knew I was engaging with it, they’d be shocked. But I think I’ve always been appropriate and kind, when I can be. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on June 27, 2023, 10:29:00 PM
Just wondering how you feel about this method of bra fitting.  ;) ;D An old cartoon from Bill Ward (1919-1998) and this was done back in the early 60's and you can tell his generation was politically incorrect.  ;D He served in the US Army in World War 2.  :)

😂😂😂 very amusing. I’ve seen a lot of old-fashioned UK seaside postcards like this.

I'm glad you like it. Too many people nowadays are so pathetically thin skinned that you have to walk on eggshells to deal with them. I know you are, what in the old days was called, a good broad.  :)

Thank you. I’m still a feminist and 100% behind being respectful towards women. I have found this forum fascinating - and, if I’m honest, if any of my friends of family knew I was engaging with it, they’d be shocked. But I think I’ve always been appropriate and kind, when I can be. 

You are a doll.  :) You are a treasure, and you bring a great deal to this place. So glad you are here.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 28, 2023, 01:07:19 AM
Back to actresses - here's Jeri Ryan. (I can't believe she is 55)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jeri_Ryan - 36D?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 28, 2023, 02:34:17 AM
Back to actresses - here's Jeri Ryan. (I can't believe she is 55)

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jeri_Ryan - 36D?

I love her! She’s tall, but I don’t know where they’re getting 36D from. 32 back, maybe, and probably a DD or E cup. When she was in Star Trek, I understand they used a lot of scaffolding for her costume.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 28, 2023, 04:16:17 AM
When she was in Star Trek, I understand they used a lot of scaffolding for her costume.
I do remember reading about that.  Gotta be a pain to go to the loo.

I first saw her in the sci-fi show Dark Skies before Star Trek.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 28, 2023, 05:20:19 AM
When she was in Star Trek, I understand they used a lot of scaffolding for her costume.
I do remember reading about that.  Gotta be a pain to go to the loo.

I first saw her in the sci-fi show Dark Skies before Star Trek.

The thing to remember with most models/actresses (and women in general) is that the perceived size of their boobs will be influenced by how they dress; what type of bra they wear, if it pushes their boobs up and outwards, or if it compresses them or makes them rounder or flatter. Most women’s boobs kind of sag (the bigger they are, the more they’ll sag), so it’s really only women with small backs and big, rounded boobs who look really huge. You’ll notice a lot of instagrammers and TikTok women who *look* like they have massive boobs because of a combination of wearing a bra that pushes their boobs up and out, and, using wide angle lenses to give a distorted appearance. Most women’s boobs are just normal - and are discreetly hidden away with a properly-fitting bra and appropriate clothing.

If you saw me in real life, you wouldn’t think I had big boobs. If you saw me naked - your jaw would drop (along with my boobs).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 28, 2023, 12:31:39 PM
The thing to remember with most models/actresses (and women in general) is that the perceived size of their boobs will be influenced by how they dress; what type of bra they wear
Its fascinating how you ladies can do that.

Most women’s boobs kind of sag (the bigger they are, the more they’ll sag), so it’s really only women with small backs and big, rounded boobs who look really huge.
Smaller ladies, (shorter) seem to have big boobs, and proportionally they are, but outright they aren't.  The wiki chart giving the volume of breasts per bra size is helpful to illustrate that.  My personally preference isn't overall size, but that proportional difference that makes them look big, even if they aren't.

and, using wide angle lenses to give a distorted appearance.
You get that sense when you see a model from a different angle.  I wish they'd not do the wide angle lens thing, but I understand why they do.

Most women’s boobs are just normal - and are discreetly hidden away with a properly-fitting bra and appropriate clothing.
It never stops amazing me how different they (boobs) look out of a bra. 

I've just had a female friend over for a cuppa - she was stood by the window as she got up to go home - honestly, I was distracted for a sec estimating her size.  She was wearing a bra, but not a push up or anything.  I could have just asked her size to be honest - she'd have told me.  But I like the thought experiment of trying to guess what size she was.  I do have a rough idea though.  I thought they looked bigger than the last time I saw her,  some weight loss my have accentuated her overall profile.

if you saw me naked - your jaw would drop (along with my boobs).
I have imagination - yeah you're right. wow!  Danni Ashe enters my mind.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 29, 2023, 01:26:04 AM
Okay random post here. 

But this woman is 6ft, so I thought that would be interesting.

Melissa Moore- https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Melissa_Moore - 36D seems plausible going on the two pics. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 29, 2023, 02:38:50 AM
Okay random post here. 

But this woman is 6ft, so I thought that would be interesting.

Melissa Moore- https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Melissa_Moore - 36D seems plausible going on the two pics.

She doesn’t look like a 36 back. More like 32DD. Also, she seems to have gotten slightly bigger as she got older.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on June 29, 2023, 03:34:36 AM
Also, she seems to have gotten slightly bigger as she got older.
It looks like she may have gained weight in the 1990 pic. 

For the hundredth entry in my list I thought we'd return to Jennifer Love Hewitt (I think we've done her before).

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt - BP hasn't got an estimate. She is short, so my estimate is 30DD.  But I could be a tad out.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on June 29, 2023, 04:08:22 AM
Also, she seems to have gotten slightly bigger as she got older.
It looks like she may have gained weight in the 1990 pic. 

For the hundredth entry in my list I thought we'd return to Jennifer Love Hewitt (I think we've done her before).

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt - BP hasn't got an estimate. She is short, so my estimate is 30DD.  But I could be a tad out.

Yeah - she looks 28/30 back and possibly anywhere from DD-F. Again, push/up dresses and bras make her look most busty, but she’s slim and not broad-backed.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 01, 2023, 02:06:13 AM
Walt Yasmin Disney.  https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Yasmin_Disney - 36K plausible?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 01, 2023, 02:59:28 AM
Also, she seems to have gotten slightly bigger as she got older.
It looks like she may have gained weight in the 1990 pic. 

For the hundredth entry in my list I thought we'd return to Jennifer Love Hewitt (I think we've done her before).

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt - BP hasn't got an estimate. She is short, so my estimate is 30DD.  But I could be a tad out.

Yes, it’s something like 28E/30DD
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 01, 2023, 03:00:13 AM
Walt Yasmin Disney.  https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Yasmin_Disney - 36K plausible?

I’d say more like 34-36J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 01, 2023, 04:30:56 AM
I’d say more like 34-36J.
The band size always trips me up.   I need to do more (hands on) research.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 01, 2023, 05:25:37 AM
I’d say more like 34-36J.
The band size always trips me up.   I need to do more (hands on) research.

It can be tricky. Whilst it’s a measurement of the underbust, not everyone is an even number - which is where the stretch of the band, plus the hooks and eyes come in - as well as some of the additional material in the cups. When I visually estimate a back size, I often go slightly lower - I don’t always get it right - but I usually get the cup size close. It takes years of practice and experience. “Hands on”. I see what you did there. Oddly, the only time I touch boobs during a fitting is with the bra on and only with the person’s permission. (You’ll notice I said “person” there - yes. I have fitted women and men).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 01, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
not everyone is an even number
Indeed, and I can account for that from my own experience. I used to be a 33" waist - I was too big for 32" jeans and too small for 34" jeans. No choice but to wear a belt and size 34.

When I visually estimate a back size, I often go slightly lower
That makes sense - and from my experience in some technical endeavours that would be the way I'd go about it too.

It takes years of practice and experience.
Yeah I bet it does.  You can't buy experience.

I have fitted women and men).
Now I'm curious - are we talking overweight men - or cross-dressers?  And, how does one refer a man for a bra fitting?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 01, 2023, 12:27:53 PM
not everyone is an even number
Indeed, and I can account for that from my own experience. I used to be a 33" waist - I was too big for 32" jeans and too small for 34" jeans. No choice but to wear a belt and size 34.

When I visually estimate a back size, I often go slightly lower
That makes sense - and from my experience in some technical endeavours that would be the way I'd go about it too.

It takes years of practice and experience.
Yeah I bet it does.  You can't buy experience.

I have fitted women and men).
Now I'm curious - are we talking overweight men - or cross-dressers?  And, how does one refer a man for a bra fitting?

It was mostly when I worked in high street department stores for a while - sometimes, you would just get a man asking about bras and sizes etc, and you could tell it wasn’t a gift they were buying - and the kind thing tl do is be discreet and ask if they need help. Sometimes, it was someone who cross-dresses, which was always easy - as they knew what they wanted, but just needed some sizing advice. And, sometimes, it was just creepy perverts. I have to say, it wasn’t a regular occurrence. But I just treated them the way I’d expect to be treated myself. One man came in fairly regularly over about a period of time. He was about 30 when I first spoke to him. Cross-dresser, wife didn’t know etc - and tended to prefer bigger bras (brought his falsies with him one time and I fitted him for a 36E bra set).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 03, 2023, 03:50:04 AM
It was mostly when I worked in high street department stores for a while
I just had a pic of the sit-com Are you being Served pop in to my head.  Are you free!

you would just get a man asking about bras and sizes etc, and you could tell it wasn’t a gift they were buying advice.
I had no idea - I have never bought a bra for a woman, and now I think about it, not sure how I would go about it.

Now I'd be spot on with the measurements (thanks to your help Margaret)   but years ago it would go like this.  Me "Hi I'd like to buy a bra for my girlfriend". Shop assistant "okay what size is she".  Me hold up palms of hands "about this big"!  haha

it was just creepy perverts. I have to say, it wasn’t a regular occurrence. But I just treated them the way I’d expect to be treated myself.
I only look at bras when I am with a woman, other than that I pretty much avert my eyes so scared of looking like a prev.

One man came in fairly regularly over about a period of time. He was about 30 when I first spoke to him. Cross-dresser, wife didn’t know etc - and tended to prefer bigger bras (brought his falsies with him one time and I fitted him for a 36E bra set).
I bet that is common - wife doesn't know about his fetish.  I tell women I like bras, which is how I've ended up owning so many.  I think if I was younger I'd be tempted to crossdress, but not now.  Although I did try on a French-maids outfit once, fitted good, felt great.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 03, 2023, 03:59:37 AM
Okay another young lady from my Southampton.

Rose Coffen - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Rose_Coffen 34D?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 03, 2023, 04:25:03 AM
Okay another young lady from my Southampton.

Rose Coffen - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Rose_Coffen 34D?

Looks like a 28/30E-F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 05, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
Back with a new one.

Kerry Katona - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Katona - H?

On August 25, 2008, Katona checked into a private clinic in north-west London for several cosmetic surgery procedures including liposuction, laser treatment on her stretch marks, and a breast reduction to decrease the size of her 34GG chest. Reported to cost £15,000, the procedures will be filmed and footage will be featured on Katona's forthcoming MTV reality show Whole Again. She was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying, "After four kids I need it. I’m a GG at the moment, and when I take my bra off my nipples are by my feet. I want to be a DD instead.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 05, 2023, 11:49:31 AM
Back with a new one.

Kerry Katona - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Kerry_Katona - H?

On August 25, 2008, Katona checked into a private clinic in north-west London for several cosmetic surgery procedures including liposuction, laser treatment on her stretch marks, and a breast reduction to decrease the size of her 34GG chest. Reported to cost £15,000, the procedures will be filmed and footage will be featured on Katona's forthcoming MTV reality show Whole Again. She was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying, "After four kids I need it. I’m a GG at the moment, and when I take my bra off my nipples are by my feet. I want to be a DD instead.

Hmm. Her weight fluctuated a lot, but I’d expect her to have been in 32-34 back territory and around FF/G cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 05, 2023, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: Margaret link=topic=10004262.msg10607862#msg10607862
Hmm. Her weight fluctuated a lot, but I’d expect her to have been in 32-34 back territory and around FF/G cup.
I thought she'd be a tricky one due to her weight changes and cosmetic procedures.  I will put her down as a 34G.

I thought I'd bang another off one while I was here. 

Jill Cannon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jill_Cannon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jill_Cannon) - 34E seems on target.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 06, 2023, 02:39:04 AM
Quote from: Margaret link=topic=10004262.msg10607862#msg10607862
Hmm. Her weight fluctuated a lot, but I’d expect her to have been in 32-34 back territory and around FF/G cup.
I thought she'd be a tricky one due to her weight changes and cosmetic procedures.  I will put her down as a 34G.

I thought I'd bang another off one while I was here. 

Jill Cannon - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jill_Cannon (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Jill_Cannon) - 34E seems on target.

34E seems broad for someone so slim and short. I’d be thinking more 28-30E. Maybe 28F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 08, 2023, 12:41:03 AM
34E seems broad for someone so slim and short. I’d be thinking more 28-30E. Maybe 28F.
Cheers. 

it would be interesting to know where BP get there sizing info from, as your estimates differ so often - I trust you, not them.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 08, 2023, 03:16:33 AM
34E seems broad for someone so slim and short. I’d be thinking more 28-30E. Maybe 28F.
Cheers. 

it would be interesting to know where BP get there sizing info from, as your estimates differ so often - I trust you, not them.

Chances are it’s a guess (34DD was the go-to bra size synonymous with “big boobs” for far too long). Or, it may be the bra size she was wearing (34DD is one of those bra sizes that if you put it on, most modest-sized boobs will fit into it, because of the large band size). But it’s probably just magazine copy editor laziness. She’s maybe said in an interview she’s a 28E and the copywriter has looked at it and thought “that doesn’t sound big, I’ll make her a DD”.

You’d be surprised at how easily impressed people are by bra sizes. My husband’s friends think 34DD is bigger than 32FF. I think it’s the alliteration of “double dee”.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 09, 2023, 01:40:42 AM
You’d be surprised at how easily impressed people are by bra sizes. My husband’s friends think 34DD is bigger than 32FF. I think it’s the alliteration of “double dee”.
This is so how I thought about bra sizes - I think it would have been 40DD or maybe 44DD that I thought was huge. Definitely DD as you say.  I guess this stereotype still persists for some people (mainly men I guess).  This is why I like to learn about these things.

Come to think about it - I'm sure I had a adult VHS (yes a tape) with DD in the title.

Did you say there was a redoing of bra sizing some time ago - maybe this is why DD still exits as a metaphor. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 09, 2023, 01:47:11 AM
Back to estimates - and this one is way out.

Lilli Xene - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lilli_Xene (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Lilli_Xene) - 36G
 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 09, 2023, 02:33:48 AM
You’d be surprised at how easily impressed people are by bra sizes. My husband’s friends think 34DD is bigger than 32FF. I think it’s the alliteration of “double dee”.
This is so how I thought about bra sizes - I think it would have been 40DD or maybe 44DD that I thought was huge. Definitely DD as you say.  I guess this stereotype still persists for some people (mainly men I guess).  This is why I like to learn about these things.

Come to think about it - I'm sure I had a adult VHS (yes a tape) with DD in the title.

Did you say there was a redoing of bra sizing some time ago - maybe this is why DD still exits as a metaphor.

It wasn’t so much a re-do, more that they abandoned the plus four measuring method, and added cups beyond DD.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on July 12, 2023, 06:47:58 AM
You’d be surprised at how easily impressed people are by bra sizes. My husband’s friends think 34DD is bigger than 32FF. I think it’s the alliteration of “double dee”.
This is so how I thought about bra sizes - I think it would have been 40DD or maybe 44DD that I thought was huge. Definitely DD as you say.  I guess this stereotype still persists for some people (mainly men I guess).  This is why I like to learn about these things.

Come to think about it - I'm sure I had a adult VHS (yes a tape) with DD in the title.

Did you say there was a redoing of bra sizing some time ago - maybe this is why DD still exits as a metaphor.

It wasn’t so much a re-do, more that they abandoned the plus four measuring method, and added cups beyond DD.

I remember back in the 70's and 80's how so many feature dancers would put their measurements as 80DDD or some such number because they knew guys didn't understand how bras and their measurements actually work.  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 12, 2023, 11:15:08 AM
You’d be surprised at how easily impressed people are by bra sizes. My husband’s friends think 34DD is bigger than 32FF. I think it’s the alliteration of “double dee”.
This is so how I thought about bra sizes - I think it would have been 40DD or maybe 44DD that I thought was huge. Definitely DD as you say.  I guess this stereotype still persists for some people (mainly men I guess).  This is why I like to learn about these things.

Come to think about it - I'm sure I had a adult VHS (yes a tape) with DD in the title.

Did you say there was a redoing of bra sizing some time ago - maybe this is why DD still exits as a metaphor.

It wasn’t so much a re-do, more that they abandoned the plus four measuring method, and added cups beyond DD.

I remember back in the 70's and 80's how so many feature dancers would put their measurements as 80DDD or some such number because they knew guys didn't understand how bras and their measurements actually work.  ;D

Yep. In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 16, 2023, 07:20:11 AM
I've been meaning to post this one for a while. I really like this picture.  Not sure her bra is quite right for some reason.  But other than that,  lovely lingerie.


Ps sorry Zook it is a WeBP,  I am not on a desktop I have no way to convert.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 16, 2023, 03:18:02 PM
I've been meaning to post this one for a while. I really like this picture.  Not sure her bra is quite right for some reason.  But other than that,  lovely lingerie.


Ps sorry Zook it is a WeBP,  I am not on a desktop I have no way to convert.

Gorgeous lingerie. I’m a sucker for a set like this, even though I know I’ll probably never wear it in earnest. Not sure the bra is the right fit or style for her.

Suspenders and stockings are ultra-sexy, but just not terribly practical. But I love the complexity of the set. It’s lovely.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 17, 2023, 04:09:57 AM
Gorgeous lingerie. I’m a sucker for a set like this
Me too - personally I'd rather see a woman dressed like this than naked, odd as that may sound.

Not sure the bra is the right fit or style for her.
It doesn't look right - would some adjustment help, or does she need a different size completely.

Suspenders and stockings are ultra-sexy, but just not terribly practical. But I love the complexity of the set. It’s lovely.
I don't know the origin or the suspender, but I guess they were invented in a time before elastic strips that would hold up a stocking.  It is interesting that the style has stayed around, albeit for form and not function.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 17, 2023, 07:11:41 AM
Gorgeous lingerie. I’m a sucker for a set like this
Me too - personally I'd rather see a woman dressed like this than naked, odd as that may sound.

Not sure the bra is the right fit or style for her.
It doesn't look right - would some adjustment help, or does she need a different size completely.

Suspenders and stockings are ultra-sexy, but just not terribly practical. But I love the complexity of the set. It’s lovely.
I don't know the origin or the suspender, but I guess they were invented in a time before elastic strips that would hold up a stocking.  It is interesting that the style has stayed around, albeit for form and not function.

I think it’s the style of the bra that’s the problem - it doesn’t work for her set.

In terms of suspenders - you’re right, they were prevalent before the invention of nylon hose manufacturing (stockings were made of wool or silk and tended to have no “give”, and manufacturing couldn’t account for the integrated “panty” part). When that emerged, stockings/suspenders effectively died as the means of wearing hose. They’re still popular though - some women prefer them. For me, I have really long thigh bones, so they struggle to stay up.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 17, 2023, 12:16:29 PM
They’re still popular though - some women prefer them.
Is that for normal-wear or for formal/dress clothes?

I saw a wedding recently in the grounds of a nearby castle (not a guest) - looking at some of the dresses and clothes, it would have been interesting to know how popular stockings were at the wedding. 

For me, I have really long thigh bones, so they struggle to stay up.
Do they not come in longer sizes for longer legs?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 17, 2023, 12:17:07 PM
Not my sorta thing...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 17, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
They’re still popular though - some women prefer them.
Is that for normal-wear or for formal/dress clothes?

I saw a wedding recently in the grounds of a nearby castle (not a guest) - looking at some of the dresses and clothes, it would have been interesting to know how popular stockings were at the wedding. 

For me, I have really long thigh bones, so they struggle to stay up.
Do they not come in longer sizes for longer legs?

I’d have thought comfort is more normal 1 suspenders aren’t known for their comfort. They’re fiddly, prone to mishaps and can often show an outline on your clothes.

You can get longer stockings for longer legs (I’ve had some success with hold-ups, which have much better elasticated tops), but otherwise, the stockings/suspenders combo tends to be strictly for the bedroom - and, rarely at that
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 20, 2023, 02:55:55 AM
Now this is the sort of Karen I like.

Karen Price - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karen_Price (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karen_Price) - but is she 38F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 20, 2023, 03:02:29 AM
Now this is the sort of Karen I like.

Karen Price - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karen_Price (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Karen_Price) - but is she 38F?

If she’s 5’5” then there’s no chance she’s a 38F. She looks more like a 32F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 20, 2023, 11:57:32 AM
If she’s 5’5” then there’s no chance she’s a 38F. She looks more like a 32F.
I didn't think she was 38F - incidentally, when the model is laying on her back, I assume that makes estimating a little tricky?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 20, 2023, 03:33:24 PM
If she’s 5’5” then there’s no chance she’s a 38F. She looks more like a 32F.
I didn't think she was 38F - incidentally, when the model is laying on her back, I assume that makes estimating a little tricky?

In some cases, yes, it can make it harder - but also, it gives you an idea of shape and set.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 21, 2023, 01:41:00 AM
Another one from the archive before my weekend away.

Patricia Farinelli - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Patricia_Farinelli (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Patricia_Farinelli) - 36F (at 5' 3" I think she is more likely 32F)

Odd, but I understand why: Underarm hair Shaved - Pubic hair  Full
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 21, 2023, 01:50:26 AM
Another one from the archive before my weekend away.

Patricia Farinelli - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Patricia_Farinelli (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Patricia_Farinelli) - 36F (at 5' 3" I think she is more likely 32F)

Odd, but I understand why: Underarm hair Shaved - Pubic hair  Full

Definitely more like 32F (almost FF).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 28, 2023, 02:17:39 AM
A bit off topic, but:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/03/secret-support-did-prescription-bras-help-lionesses-to-euro-2022-glory
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 28, 2023, 04:27:50 AM
Back to posting pics.

She is a busty woman - but how busty?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on July 28, 2023, 06:45:52 AM
Back to posting pics.

She is a busty woman - but how busty?

Pretty damn busty.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 28, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
A bit off topic, but:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/03/secret-support-did-prescription-bras-help-lionesses-to-euro-2022-glory

Fantastic. Sports bras are a must for working out or sport - but they can be *very* restrictive. But, the last thing you need when jogging or running is wildly loose boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on July 28, 2023, 02:40:14 PM
Back to posting pics.

She is a busty woman - but how busty?

Difficult to say (and the photo looks odd). There’s a bit of push-up going on too. Possibly 32G?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on July 29, 2023, 01:09:34 AM
Difficult to say (and the photo looks odd). There’s a bit of push-up going on too. Possibly 32G?
Yeah I agree - the pic isn't quite right, almost like it is a morph.  Although a good one.  It is getting harder by the day to spot the fakes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 04, 2023, 03:07:44 AM
This picture intrigues me on so many levels.  We know she likes chess, but how big is her chest?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Brahma on August 04, 2023, 07:09:09 AM
34A
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 04, 2023, 09:42:19 AM
34A

Not a bad guess, but she doesn’t look like a 34 back. Probably more like 26 or 28A
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 05, 2023, 03:15:40 AM
Okay another B&W image.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 05, 2023, 04:00:06 AM
Okay another B&W image.

The angle isn’t great to get a rough back size. But it’s possible something like 30F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 05, 2023, 12:30:28 PM
Okay another B&W image.

The angle isn’t great to get a rough back size. But it’s possible something like 30F.
Cheers - I did this one quick; as just as I was posting this morning I had a unexpected visitor.  I didn't look at the image too closely beforehand - I may have chosen something better if I'd have had more time.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 06, 2023, 03:13:32 AM
Trying to find a good image for an estimation. Ones with a mirror seem to be better, maybe?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 06, 2023, 03:47:27 AM
Trying to find a good image for an estimation. Ones with a mirror seem to be better, maybe?

Slim back, but curvy, so possibly a 32 back - and I’d think around an E or an F cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 14, 2023, 02:27:41 AM
Okay what about this lady...
Oh wait!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 14, 2023, 03:15:32 AM
Okay what about this lady...
Oh wait!

Ha!

Go for a 38D, maybe a 40D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 14, 2023, 07:17:01 AM
Okay what about this lady...
Oh wait!


That's disgusting.  :P :( :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 14, 2023, 10:18:58 AM
Go for a 38D, maybe a 40D
He/she is quite busty! 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 14, 2023, 10:20:08 AM
That's disgusting.  :P :( :o ;) ;D
I had to delete the picture from my local drive. Too distressing!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 14, 2023, 09:33:03 PM
That's disgusting.  :P :( :o ;) ;D
I had to delete the picture from my local drive. Too distressing!

That image will probably cause some people to get an icepick and poke their eyes out and try to forget they ever saw such a thing.  :P :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 19, 2023, 01:56:19 AM
I'm curious about Sarah Lang, I wonder what size she is?

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=490504.msg10612405;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 19, 2023, 03:46:45 AM
I'm curious about Sarah Lang, I wonder what size she is?

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=490504.msg10612405;topicseen#new

A big lass. Having looked through the thread, this seems like implants?

I’d be expecting her to be in the 34-38 back category and something like HH, maybe J. So something like 34J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 19, 2023, 11:45:57 AM
A big lass. Having looked through the thread, this seems like implants?
That is interesting you've said that, I'd always assumed she was natural.  But to be honest now I'm not so sure.

I’d be expecting her to be in the 34-38 back category and something like HH, maybe J. So something like 34J.
Ah okay - a bit bigger than I thought.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 20, 2023, 02:33:17 AM
A big lass. Having looked through the thread, this seems like implants?
That is interesting you've said that, I'd always assumed she was natural.  But to be honest now I'm not so sure.

I’d be expecting her to be in the 34-38 back category and something like HH, maybe J. So something like 34J.
Ah okay - a bit bigger than I thought.

My reading of her thread was she won money on a quiz show and got a boob enhancement shortly after, and formed a band?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 21, 2023, 06:30:32 AM
My reading of her thread was she won money on a quiz show and got a boob enhancement shortly after, and formed a band?
I remember her being on a quiz show, but didn't know about the enhancement. 

I just did a search of 'Sarah Lang quiz show', if this is the same person I think she was fairly well built before she had an enhancement.  Maybe it was a lift and not so much volume.  I will have to see if I can find some video.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 21, 2023, 09:48:58 AM
My reading of her thread was she won money on a quiz show and got a boob enhancement shortly after, and formed a band?
I remember her being on a quiz show, but didn't know about the enhancement. 

I just did a search of 'Sarah Lang quiz show', if this is the same person I think she was fairly well built before she had an enhancement.  Maybe it was a lift and not so much volume.  I will have to see if I can find some video.

I remember this well. It was about 15-20 years ago. She’ll be in her late 40s by now. I’m pretty certain there were news stories about her getting implants.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 26, 2023, 03:22:20 AM
Okay then - today's lady.  She say's 38JJ which seems legit.

If memory serves she lives in Ireland.

https://www.reddit.com/user/bigpaireire

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 26, 2023, 04:32:43 AM
Okay then - today's lady.  She say's 38JJ which seems legit.

If memory serves she lives in Ireland.

https://www.reddit.com/user/bigpaireire

38JJ seems about right. Possibly even 38K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on August 26, 2023, 11:51:19 AM
38JJ seems about right. Possibly even 38K.
Cheers - I have a size 38JJ in my bra collection and I thought she looked about that size.  The cups are huge on that bra, interesting to compare between C, D, GG to the JJ sizes when have them together.   Quite a difference in volume.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 02, 2023, 11:12:55 AM
Any idea what brand of bra this is - love the colour.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 03, 2023, 03:02:18 AM
Any idea what brand of bra this is - love the colour.

Could be a brand like H+M, but plunge bras like this are ten a penny. They come and go.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 03, 2023, 12:35:59 PM
Could be a brand like H+M, but plunge bras like this are ten a penny. They come and go.
Ah okay thanks.  How do you identify a plunge bar?  I assume it is the way the centre is cut low to emphasize the cleavage?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 03, 2023, 03:49:42 PM
Could be a brand like H+M, but plunge bras like this are ten a penny. They come and go.
Ah okay thanks.  How do you identify a plunge bar?  I assume it is the way the centre is cut low to emphasize the cleavage?

Yep - usually they split the cleavage and push the boobs up. They’re often characterised by bringing your boobs together from the centre of the cup - they usually have no padding (which is what you get on a “push-up” bra - which is designed to make small boobs look bigger).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 04, 2023, 02:15:04 AM
(which is what you get on a “push-up” bra - which is designed to make small boobs look bigger).
So that is a distinction I was unaware of, pushup bra vs plunge bra. I have heard of both but never really knew the difference.  Neither sound like something you'd be wanting to wear all day, so I guess these are for special occasions.
I assume measuring for these would be a similar process to a normal bra? Although these kinda alter your shape, so maybe not.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 04, 2023, 02:46:02 AM
(which is what you get on a “push-up” bra - which is designed to make small boobs look bigger).
So that is a distinction I was unaware of, pushup bra vs plunge bra. I have heard of both but never really knew the difference.  Neither sound like something you'd be wanting to wear all day, so I guess these are for special occasions.
I assume measuring for these would be a similar process to a normal bra? Although these kinda alter your shape, so maybe not.

For measuring/fitting for either of these bras, you still need to go through a similar process (back size/underbust and overbust), although you’re right - they’re designed to push your boobs up or inwards, so it sometimes takes trying on a few variations to get a comfortable fit. They’re just like any other bra - if you get one that fits properly, they should be comfortable. I’ve never had to wear a push-up bra (they’re big enough), but I’ve tried a plunge for specific tops or dresses - they’re not my favourite type of bra, if I’m honest - they just don’t work for me too well.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 12, 2023, 12:22:08 PM
Here's a young lady I've been meaning to ask you about.

Bianca Censori?

Got to give this woman credit for this outfit.  They'll (young ladies) all be dressing like this soon!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 13, 2023, 02:32:37 AM
Here's a young lady I've been meaning to ask you about.

Bianca Censori?

Got to give this woman credit for this outfit.  They'll (young ladies) all be dressing like this soon!

Possibly something like a 32 or 34F. Hard to tell, as there’s no good shots of her in a bra that I can work with.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 13, 2023, 02:40:11 AM
Possibly something like a 32 or 34F. Hard to tell, as there’s no good shots of her in a bra that I can work with.
Okay thanks.  I was looking at the Daily Mail this morning and she is wearing, what I guess is a boobtube? 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12510297/Kanye-Wests-wife-Bianca-Censori-showcases-cleavage-daring-look-couple-step-Florence-amid-scandalous-getaway.html

One of the comments on the article "She needs a good support bra or she’ll be tripping over those. Just looks absurd." Yep.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on September 13, 2023, 12:18:36 PM
Possibly something like a 32 or 34F. Hard to tell, as there’s no good shots of her in a bra that I can work with.
Okay thanks.  I was looking at the Daily Mail this morning and she is wearing, what I guess is a boobtube? 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12510297/Kanye-Wests-wife-Bianca-Censori-showcases-cleavage-daring-look-couple-step-Florence-amid-scandalous-getaway.html

One of the comments on the article "She needs a good support bra or she’ll be tripping over those. Just looks absurd." Yep.

Life ain't fair: he got all the fabric and she got all the boobs  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 17, 2023, 02:17:28 AM
I'm terrible at estimating  :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on September 17, 2023, 02:27:19 AM
As there are so less reverences in this pic, I would choose the maybe light switch in the upper right corner and say she is less than 3'4  ;D.

On the other hand I would say she is big enough to make me happy 😁
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 17, 2023, 02:30:54 AM
according to who sent me the pic, she's 5'5".
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 17, 2023, 02:37:14 AM
Ask here: we have a resident expert.
https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10615882#msg10615882
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 17, 2023, 04:44:19 AM
Ask here: we have a resident expert.
https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10615882#msg10615882

If she’s 5’5” (my height!), then I’m thinking something like 34JJ or K. But the pose and type of bra (with some emphasis from the woman) could be slightly deceptive. So it could be lower or higher. Either way, she’s up in the JJ-KK category.

Add: put it this way, I’m now a 30GG (in some bras), and she’s way bigger than me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 17, 2023, 05:32:37 AM
I believe that this thread should be merged with our in-house expert thread, Margaret's thread. My $0.02.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 17, 2023, 10:30:22 AM
I believe that this thread should be merged with our in-house expert thread, Margaret's thread. My $0.02.  :)

merged
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 18, 2023, 02:09:15 AM
I believe that this thread should be merged with our in-house expert thread, Margaret's thread. My $0.02.  :)

merged

Who is she btw?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 18, 2023, 03:40:10 AM
here's another one to help solve the mystery


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 18, 2023, 03:41:54 AM
Who is she btw?

The person that sent me the pics said she's "a nice Ukrainian girl".
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 18, 2023, 05:19:56 AM
here's another one to help solve the mystery

I think a 30-32 back band is likely and possibly JJ/K. She has a very similar shape and size as a friend of mine (who is a 30KK), but I think she has slightly more back and slightly less boob, so I’m going to opt for a 32JJ.

PS she’s really beautiful. Who is she?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 18, 2023, 05:54:02 PM
PS she’s really beautiful. Who is she?

I'm trying to find out
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 20, 2023, 03:06:30 AM
I wonder if you could cast your eye over this young lady for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdxxxNabGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdxxxNabGc)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 20, 2023, 11:53:20 AM
I wonder if you could cast your eye over this young lady for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdxxxNabGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdxxxNabGc)

She looks reasonably tall and broad in the back, with low set. I’m thinking she’s not a million miles away from a 32FF/G, possibly even GG.

PS this is almost exactly what my boobs look like in a t-shirt with no bra on, although she’s taller than me and I have a slightly slimmer frame/back size. (I’m now 30GG in *some* bras).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 20, 2023, 07:34:04 PM
PS she’s really beautiful. Who is she?

The guy that told me about her told me where he saw her.  She's Kate (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Meet-Women-From-Eastern-european-C772576.html) a Russian mail order bride. He said he messaged her yesterday. I told him that if he tells her that he wants to marry her I'll send her a message saying what a bastard he is.

Naturally I looked at the site.  There's also Toma (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Dating-European-Women-C428267.html), Lucy (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-European-Women-Personals-C133321.html), and Viktoria (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Pretty-Eastern-european-Ladies-C739624.html).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 21, 2023, 01:51:59 AM
from a 32FF/G, possibly even GG.
My first thought was 32G. It is a size I am used to haha, maybe that is why I got this one.

PS this is almost exactly what my boobs look like in a t-shirt with no bra on
Goodness gravy Margaret - you have a great figure.

(I’m now 30GG in *some* bras).
Perfect size in my opinion.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 21, 2023, 12:59:49 PM
from a 32FF/G, possibly even GG.
My first thought was 32G. It is a size I am used to haha, maybe that is why I got this one.

PS this is almost exactly what my boobs look like in a t-shirt with no bra on
Goodness gravy Margaret - you have a great figure.

(I’m now 30GG in *some* bras).
Perfect size in my opinion.

Well, I said this is almost exactly what my boobs look like in a t-shirt with no bra on - not necessarily my figure 😂

She’s taller (and slimmer) than me - I’m more curvy round the hips. But the boobs are almost a match - especially with no bra on. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 21, 2023, 01:52:53 PM
PS she’s really beautiful. Who is she?

The guy that told me about her told me where he saw her.  She's Kate (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Meet-Women-From-Eastern-european-C772576.html) a Russian mail order bride. He said he messaged her yesterday. I told him that if he tells her that he wants to marry her I'll send her a message saying what a bastard he is.

Naturally I looked at the site.  There's also Toma (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Dating-European-Women-C428267.html), Lucy (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-European-Women-Personals-C133321.html), and Viktoria (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Pretty-Eastern-european-Ladies-C739624.html).

I never fail to be amazed by the revelations that the BEA throws up. I thought mail-order brides were a myth. Is that website for real?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 21, 2023, 09:20:00 PM
I never fail to be amazed by the revelations they the BEA throws up. I thought mail-order brides were a myth. Is that website for real?

Mail order brides have been around for generations BUT caveat emptor.  :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 26, 2023, 03:06:25 AM
This young lady popped up on my YT feed and I got curious.

https://www.youtube.com/@rachelmichellepizzolato/shorts

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 26, 2023, 03:12:24 AM
Posting this as the lady was nice enough to give us a datum.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 26, 2023, 01:22:44 PM
This young lady popped up on my YT feed and I got curious.

https://www.youtube.com/@rachelmichellepizzolato/shorts

Something like 28E would be about right.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 26, 2023, 01:24:06 PM
Posting this as the lady was nice enough to give us a datum.

It doesn’t really tell me much. I’d need her underbust and overbust measurements - or a really good pic of her (naked or in a bra/bikini is ideal), unless there’s other measuring photos?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 27, 2023, 06:43:31 AM
It doesn’t really tell me much. I’d need her underbust and overbust measurements - or a really good pic of her (naked or in a bra/bikini is ideal), unless there’s other measuring photos?
I thought it would be tricky, but there isn't many pictures of women measuring so I thought I'd post.  She has quite a wide bust.  In a way you'd think a width measurement like that could be useful for some women, especially the larger ladies that need custom sizes.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 27, 2023, 08:56:52 AM
It doesn’t really tell me much. I’d need her underbust and overbust measurements - or a really good pic of her (naked or in a bra/bikini is ideal), unless there’s other measuring photos?
I thought it would be tricky, but there isn't many pictures of women measuring so I thought I'd post.  She has quite a wide bust.  In a way you'd think a width measurement like that could be useful for some women, especially the larger ladies that need custom sizes.

Unfortunately all it tells you is that her boobs together are quite wide. It doesn’t tell me anything about her back size or her set. I’d need to see a bit more of her to get a better idea.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 27, 2023, 11:30:33 AM
I’d need to see a bit more of her to get a better idea.
Fair enough.

Lets see if this MP4 will work? (different person)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 27, 2023, 12:17:28 PM
I’d need to see a bit more of her to get a better idea.
Fair enough.

Lets see if this MP4 will work? (different person)

Can’t get that to work for some reason. It won’t download for me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 27, 2023, 09:26:59 PM
I’d need to see a bit more of her to get a better idea.
Fair enough.

Lets see if this MP4 will work? (different person)

Can’t get that to work for some reason. It won’t download for me.

It doesn't work for me either.  :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 28, 2023, 02:40:29 AM
Can’t get that to work for some reason. It won’t download for me.
Nah me either - it did when I posted it.  I will try a plan B.

So I didn't know I could do this but here's some thumbnails.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 28, 2023, 11:20:18 AM
Can’t get that to work for some reason. It won’t download for me.
Nah me either - it did when I posted it.  I will try a plan B.

So I didn't know I could do this but here's some thumbnails.

Looks to be something like a 32-34FF or G. If I had to call it, I’d say 32G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 29, 2023, 01:37:26 AM
Looks to be something like a 32-34FF or G. If I had to call it, I’d say 32G.
Brill thanks.  Honestly if I were a woman I'd probably opt for that sorta size.  I used to think G was huge, but now I think it'll be about right.  Albeit, I have never had any boobs and are unlikely too. 

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on September 29, 2023, 09:34:52 AM
Looks to be something like a 32-34FF or G. If I had to call it, I’d say 32G.
Brill thanks.  Honestly if I were a woman I'd probably opt for that sorta size.  I used to think G was huge, but now I think it'll be about right.  Albeit, I have never had any boobs and are unlikely too.

I’d say anywhere around 30-34 back and E-G cup is manageable. I’ve always felt I’d prefer my boobs to be a little bit smaller though (I’m 30GG now). I think I’ve said before that people with small boobs, or none (or men) don’t really get how much of a hassle very big boobs are. I can’t begin to imagine what’s like for women in the KK+ range; almost all of everyday life must present as a challenge. But yeah, G is alright.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 29, 2023, 12:54:38 PM
I’d say anywhere around 30-34 back and E-G cup is manageable. I’ve always felt I’d prefer my boobs to be a little bit smaller though (I’m 30GG now).
I have a good friend who is quite busty - we were talking about plastic surgery (whimsically) and I asked what size she'd go for if she could.  I said what about C - but she went for D - bigger than I thought.  Current she is G I think.  I think she was more concerned with a lift than a reduction.

I think I’ve said before that people with small boobs, or none (or men) don’t really get how much of a hassle very big boobs are. I can’t begin to imagine what’s like for women in the KK+ range; almost all of everyday life must present as a challenge.
Yep, I've always liked big boobs, but never really had any empathy on how if felt to have them. I think I have a better understand of how it does feel - and ah yeah, women with K's, gotta be quite a trial to lug them about.

But yeah, G is alright.
I guess it also depends on how that size fits your body. I saw a really short woman today incidentally, she was quite busty and she didn't quite look right somehow.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 29, 2023, 11:32:06 PM
While looking around the mail-order bride site I stumbled across Ollia (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Beautiful-Eastern-european-Women-C149910.html) from the Czech Republic.  I have the feeling she might be related to Milena Velba.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on September 30, 2023, 01:45:44 AM
While looking around the mail-order bride site I stumbled across Ollia (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Beautiful-Eastern-european-Women-C149910.html) from the Czech Republic.  I have the feeling she might be related to Milena Velba.
Isn't that a morph of Olyria Roy - she is from  Russia.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on September 30, 2023, 05:31:55 AM
While looking around the mail-order bride site I stumbled across Ollia (https://www.charmdate.com/Profile-Beautiful-Eastern-european-Women-C149910.html) from the Czech Republic.  I have the feeling she might be related to Milena Velba.
Isn't that a morph of Olyria Roy - she is from  Russia.

Yeah, I agree with you.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: SwitcherX on September 30, 2023, 09:57:10 PM
Isn't that a morph of Olyria Roy - she is from  Russia.

I don't know.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 02, 2023, 03:34:34 AM
I find this picture in intriguing.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 02, 2023, 04:39:57 AM
I find this picture in intriguing.

Looks like a Curvy Kate Princess bra (or a copy), and the image seems slightly warped by the mirror.

I’d be guessing, but she looks very slim - possibly a 26-28 back, and somewhere around E-F in cups, maybe a 26-28F. If I had to guess, I’d say 28F.

What do you find intriguing about it?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 02, 2023, 12:16:45 PM
What do you find intriguing about it?
Good question - I think it is overall shape this lady has.  And how thick that band is for someone so slim.  It just caught my eye and I kept on looking at it.

Cheers for the 28F btw.

Haha, slightly warped by the mirror, I think we all need this product!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 02, 2023, 09:59:57 PM
I find this picture in intriguing.

She is so lean and fit that if she just flexes her abdomen a little, she could be put in the Six Pack thread.  :o :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 03, 2023, 02:30:47 AM
As seen on the Daily Mails website.
"Ellie Sweet, who hails from Maidstone, Kent, who wears a size 14 and has 38F breasts".
Is she really a 38F?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 03, 2023, 11:22:00 AM
As seen on the Daily Mails website.
"Ellie Sweet, who hails from Maidstone, Kent, who wears a size 14 and has 38F breasts".
Is she really a 38F?

It’s entirely possible she is a 38F. Possibly more like 38FF - but it’s up there.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 04, 2023, 02:20:08 AM
It’s entirely possible she is a 38F. Possibly more like 38FF - but it’s up there.
Okay cheers.  I thought she may be.

So my next pic is a leaning forward one - did you say once that these are better for guessing a woman's size.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 04, 2023, 12:07:04 PM
It’s entirely possible she is a 38F. Possibly more like 38FF - but it’s up there.
Okay cheers.  I thought she may be.

So my next pic is a leaning forward one - did you say once that these are better for guessing a woman's size.

If I didn’t know better, I’d think they was a sneaky photo someone snapped of me without me knowing! (My thighs are bigger, and my butt - and my boobs! but apart from that!).

It’s difficult to tell because I can’t see her front-on, but it could be something like 30F or 32E. Very difficult to say. A leaning *measurement* is good, but it’s just one component of many.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 04, 2023, 01:19:50 PM
If I didn’t know better, I’d think they was a sneaky photo someone snapped of me without me knowing!
So many questions! haha

Quote from: Margaret link=topic=10004262.msg10618718#ms g10618718 date=1696439224
something like 30F or 32E. Very difficult to say.
Thanks for the estimate - so a slight lean forward rather than bent over is better for measuring?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 04, 2023, 04:40:45 PM
If I didn’t know better, I’d think they was a sneaky photo someone snapped of me without me knowing!
So many questions! haha

Quote from: Margaret link=topic=10004262.msg10618718#ms g10618718 date=1696439224
something like 30F or 32E. Very difficult to say.
Thanks for the estimate - so a slight lean forward rather than bent over is better for measuring?

It’s called a “leaning” measurement, but you bend over and measure right around your back and across the (drooping) boobs.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 05, 2023, 02:20:02 AM
So today I will post a lady who has a badly fitted bra. 

My question:  Is that just a badly adjusted  bra - or does she have the wrong size?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 05, 2023, 05:17:43 AM
So today I will post a lady who has a badly fitted bra. 

My question:  Is that just a badly adjusted  bra - or does she have the wrong size?

She definitely has the cup size wrong - going at least two cup sizes up would help. Possibly going up a band size would help too - I would normally go the other way - but the shoulder straps seem to be doing a lot of work, which is never a good thing. The back band does the heavy lifting. I suspect this is also not the right style of bra for her.

I could sort this in a few minutes - but I suspect it’s deliberate on the woman’s part in order to emphasise her boobs.

It must be very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 05, 2023, 12:25:52 PM
the shoulder straps seem to be doing a lot of work, which is never a good thing. The back band does the heavy lifting.
One (great) thing I have learnt from you is about how the band takes all or most of the weight - I often wonder actually how many women don't know this themselves.

I suspect this is also not the right style of bra for her.
What sort of style would be better do you think?

I could sort this in a few minutes - but I suspect it’s deliberate on the woman’s part in order to emphasise her boobs.
Yes I think so too - probably an old too small bra.

It must be very uncomfortable.
Gotta be - I've never worn a bra, but l can feel how uncomfortable that is going to be it looking at that pic.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 06, 2023, 02:01:59 AM
Okay then - how do busty ladies sleeep*? 

*A banned word FFS
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2023, 03:08:42 AM
Okay then - how do busty ladies sleeep*? 

*A banned word FFS

Exactly like that. Well, certainly I do. I’m right-handed, so I sleeep on my left and I generally don’t move out of that position all night. However, I know many big-boobed women who have no difficulty at all sleeeping face-down. I even know of one friend who has implants who sleeeps on her front (they’re not massive implants, but still). Anecdotally, I’ve researched some of the famous big-boob models from the past (that I’ve learned about on here) who have said in interviews and FAQs that they were also able to sleeep face down. I think sleeeping is something you do instinctively, and it’s a habit formed since you were a baby, so developing big boobs probably doesn’t change it much. My arms sort of cross over my boobs and cradle them, so they act as cushions.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2023, 03:09:21 AM
the shoulder straps seem to be doing a lot of work, which is never a good thing. The back band does the heavy lifting.
One (great) thing I have learnt from you is about how the band takes all or most of the weight - I often wonder actually how many women don't know this themselves.

I suspect this is also not the right style of bra for her.
What sort of style would be better do you think?

I could sort this in a few minutes - but I suspect it’s deliberate on the woman’s part in order to emphasise her boobs.
Yes I think so too - probably an old too small bra.

It must be very uncomfortable.
Gotta be - I've never worn a bra, but l can feel how uncomfortable that is going to be it looking at that pic.

A decent balconette or a full-cup bra would work better.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 06, 2023, 07:12:23 AM
Exactly like that. Well, certainly I do. I’m right-handed, so I sleeep on my left and I generally don’t move out of that position all night.
I'm the same - but what about when you have a disturbed night (like we all have from time to time) do you not find having big boobs a little of a hindrance when you want to want change sides?  Having said that, I have sle*pt with many a busty lady and they don't seem to.  Haha. it is great when you wake to have a boob in your face when she has turned your direction!

However, I know many big-boobed women who have no difficulty at all sleeeping face-down.
I have no boobs and I can't really do that, not without killing my neck by morning.

I think sleeeping is something you do instinctively, and it’s a habit formed since you were a baby, so developing big boobs probably doesn’t change it much. My arms sort of cross over my boobs and cradle them, so they act as cushions.
What would worry me, or what I think would worry me about having a big chest in bed is hurting myself with my own weight.  I'm sure we've all had that feeling of waking and thinking oh no, where is my arm - only to find out you've been sleeeping on it and it has gone numb. 

Is that not a issue for a busty lady?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 06, 2023, 07:15:38 AM
Exactly like that.
For a supplemental - PJs or nude?

Nude for me as I prefer being free in bed.  Even when it is cold I like to have nothing on between the sheets.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2023, 08:14:51 AM
Exactly like that.
For a supplemental - PJs or nude?

Nude for me as I prefer being free in bed.  Even when it is cold I like to have nothing on between the sheets.

PJs for me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2023, 08:16:50 AM
Exactly like that. Well, certainly I do. I’m right-handed, so I sleeep on my left and I generally don’t move out of that position all night.
I'm the same - but what about when you have a disturbed night (like we all have from time to time) do you not find having big boobs a little of a hindrance when you want to want change sides?  Having said that, I have sle*pt with many a busty lady and they don't seem to.  Haha. it is great when you wake to have a boob in your face when she has turned your direction!

However, I know many big-boobed women who have no difficulty at all sleeeping face-down.
I have no boobs and I can't really do that, not without killing my neck by morning.

I think sleeeping is something you do instinctively, and it’s a habit formed since you were a baby, so developing big boobs probably doesn’t change it much. My arms sort of cross over my boobs and cradle them, so they act as cushions.
What would worry me, or what I think would worry me about having a big chest in bed is hurting myself with my own weight.  I'm sure we've all had that feeling of waking and thinking oh no, where is my arm - only to find out you've been sleeeping on it and it has gone numb. 

Is that not a issue for a busty lady?
It’s never really been an issue for me. I sometimes get too warm at night, but apart from that it doesn’t bother me. Having big boobs in general is a hassle almost every day, with even then most mundane of activities - but sleeeping has never been one, unless my boobs are tender or sensitive.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 06, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
Having big boobs in general is a hassle almost every day, with even then most mundane of activities
So what is the one everyday task that is the most tricky having a large chest?  I'd imagine there are a few, but is there one that is the real awkward one.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 06, 2023, 01:04:59 PM
Having big boobs in general is a hassle almost every day, with even then most mundane of activities
So what is the one everyday task that is the most tricky having a large chest?  I'd imagine there are a few, but is there one that is the real awkward one.

Getting dressed and finding an outfit where you don’t look like you’ve draped a trash bin over the top half of your body?

Getting comfortable in a chair and working at a computer can be uncomfortable if it goes on too long.

Running.

But in general, most tasks involving an element of manual dexterity (cooking etc) can sometimes produce annoying moments.

I’m possibly exaggerating ever so slightly - having boobs (even having big ones) isn’t all bad. It just presents regular challenges that somehow become second nature.

The biggest challenge of all, however, is the male gaze - and, judgemental stares from other women. You never, ever get used to a guy staring at your boobs or constantly glancing downwards during a conversation. That is  perhaps only trumped by inappropriate comments about them. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 07, 2023, 02:18:50 AM
Getting dressed and finding an outfit where you don’t look like you’ve draped a trash bin over the top half of your body?
When I walk round a department store, all the mannequins are stick thin with no bust.  Clothes don't seem to be made for busty women - sadly.

Getting comfortable in a chair and working at a computer can be uncomfortable if it goes on too long.
That is an interesting observation - I can see how using a computer could be a issue.  As I sit here at my desk, I look down and see the position of my body and hands and I can see how boobs would get in the way.

Running.
When I run (not often) I can feel my chest pectoral muscles bouncing up and down as I run, and it can be uncomfortable - jeez with a big bust it  must be doubly awkward.  Which is why I prefer to cycle, much easier on the body.

But in general, most tasks involving an element of manual dexterity (cooking etc) can sometimes produce annoying moments.
I think I take these sort of tasks for granted not having much extra mass on my body.

I’m possibly exaggerating ever so slightly
I'm not sure you are.

The biggest challenge of all, however, is the male gaze - and, judgemental stares from other women. You never, ever get used to a guy staring at your boobs or constantly glancing downwards during a conversation. That is  perhaps only trumped by inappropriate comments about them.
Yep, I have seen the gaze when I have been with busty women, and although slightly humorous to me, of course I don't have to fend this off all the time.

I think staring at boobs is one of those involuntary impulses that all men have, I do it, and it is difficult not too.  That said of course, if it is making someone feel uncomfortable.  Personally I am more careful with younger women than older ones, my feeling is that younger women haven't quite built up an immunity to it and will probably find it more uncomfortable.  I think we all get a thicker skin as we age.   Not that I'd stare at an older lady if she felt uneasy about it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 11, 2023, 05:24:38 AM
I just saw this posted in the Toppsy Curvey thread. 

Does 56" look legit?


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 11, 2023, 12:05:40 PM
I just saw this posted in the Toppsy Curvey thread. 

Does 56" look legit?

It doesn’t, I’m afraid. If I did some basic calculations, in order to have a 56” overbust, she would have to be something like a 38” underbust and a 56” overbust. She doesn’t look like she’s a 38 back. Apparently, she was only about 5’5”, so I would be thinking she was more like a 32” underbust - and probably something along the lines of an H/HH. She seems broadly similar in shape and size to Traci Topps and Sarenna Lee, so perhaps 32J - at a push.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 11, 2023, 12:22:25 PM
It doesn’t, I’m afraid. If I did some basic calculations, in order to have a 56” overbust, she would have to be something like a 38” underbust and a 56” overbust.
Thanks for the analysis.

So if she is say a J cup, that'll be an over-bust 12 inches more that her band, thus if she is 32 her over-bust would be 46?

And to be 56 inches she'd have to be an M cup.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 11, 2023, 01:51:32 PM
It doesn’t, I’m afraid. If I did some basic calculations, in order to have a 56” overbust, she would have to be something like a 38” underbust and a 56” overbust.
Thanks for the analysis.

So if she is say a J cup, that'll be an over-bust 12 inches more that her band, thus if she is 32 her over-bust would be 46?

And to be 56 inches she'd have to be an M cup.

Yes. And, she’s not an M cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on October 11, 2023, 04:16:30 PM
So my guess in the Toppsy Curvey thread  with about 46-48" bust wasn't that bad  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 12, 2023, 04:01:21 AM
Yes. And, she’s not an M cup.
Would this lady be more likely to be an M cup?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 12, 2023, 07:37:34 AM
Yes. And, she’s not an M cup.
Would this lady be more likely to be an M cup?

She’s certainly up in the JJ/K category. She also looks to have what almost all of us women have; one boob bigger than the other.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 12, 2023, 12:05:27 PM
She also looks to have what almost all of us women have; one boob bigger than the other.
Oh yeah hadn't seen that.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 18, 2023, 11:46:54 AM
As I'm a curious person.

From the busty granny with small waist thread.

As long as this picture is unaltered, I guess she has had a boob job.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 19, 2023, 03:13:20 AM
As I'm a curious person.

From the busty granny with small waist thread.

As long as this picture is unaltered, I guess she has had a boob job.

Not necessarily - it’s maybe just a good bra.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 19, 2023, 04:49:42 AM
Not necessarily - it’s maybe just a good bra.
Yeah could be - she seems to have a quite slim physique, this made me think implants.

But she's making a cuppa for me - which is awesome. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 19, 2023, 04:53:32 AM
Not necessarily - it’s maybe just a good bra.
Yeah could be - she seems to have a quite slim physique, this made me think implants.

But she's making a cuppa for me - which is awesome.

You do realise this is Mary Berry from the Great British Bake-off? Or at least it looks like her to me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 19, 2023, 05:02:06 AM
You do realise this is Mary Berry from the Great British Bake-off? Or at least it looks like her to me.
You know what, I thought she looked familiar. 

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 23, 2023, 09:20:51 PM
You do realise this is Mary Berry from the Great British Bake-off? Or at least it looks like her to me.
You know what, I thought she looked familiar. 



I had no idea. I'm an American and I had no idea who she is.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on October 24, 2023, 05:59:39 AM
Margaret, this is Fabiana Britto. Can you give me a size approximation, please?  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 24, 2023, 12:59:36 PM
Margaret, this is Fabiana Britto. Can you give me a size approximation, please?  :)

Possibly something like a 28-30H/HH maybe?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 26, 2023, 03:37:17 AM
From another thread - Anna Katz.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anna_Katz (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anna_Katz)

38K?

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 26, 2023, 03:31:34 PM
From another thread - Anna Katz.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anna_Katz (https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Anna_Katz)

38K?

36/36, yes. Not entirely sure about K - but it’ll be something like GG-H.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 27, 2023, 02:33:06 AM
36/36, yes. Not entirely sure about K - but it’ll be something like GG-H.
Ah okay, I find it hard to estimate the ladies with the larger band.  Any idea of the bra brand?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 28, 2023, 12:35:50 PM
36/36, yes. Not entirely sure about K - but it’ll be something like GG-H.
Ah okay, I find it hard to estimate the ladies with the larger band.  Any idea of the bra brand?

Actually, having Googled this lady, I’m going to revise my assessment. She’s definitely up in the KK/L category. She’s a big lady, quite low set - so it’s possibly just the way she’s wearing this bra (I found the actual bra owned by her as sold - on her merchandise website - and she’s wearing a racer-back style bra fastener that pulls the shoulder straps together at the centre of your shoulder blades - which some bigger boobed women wear to pull their boobs up).

I’m not sure what brand of bra it is (there was a time I could have identified it in a heartbeat), but I think it’s a Polish or European brand.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on October 31, 2023, 03:41:12 AM
What do you think about this bra fit from our favourite north eastern lass Leanne Crow.

I notice a slight gap on the front under-band - is that just the way she is standing, or is the fit slightly off?  Of course she could be tightening to make them look bigger.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on October 31, 2023, 01:45:03 PM
What do you think about this bra fit from our favourite north eastern lass Leanne Crow.

I notice a slight gap on the front under-band - is that just the way she is standing, or is the fit slightly off?  Of course she could be tightening to make them look bigger.

I noticed this photo the other day on her thread and was going to comment something similar.

It’s *almost* a good fit (the bra is a Curvy Kate Princess, one of my absolute favourite bras of all time. -8 have this very bra in a 32FF). I suspect Leanne is pretty close to being a 32-34L, but this bra only goes up to a KK cup, hence the centre gore not quite sitting flush 1 and her boobs are very slightly bulging over the tops of the cups. Her pose is probably contributing to this, but I can tell by the band around the side they it’s riding up ever so slightly (isn’t the back band a whoppingly huge size?? - the back bands really are mega-big on these bras, as they have so much of the heavy lifting to do).

What I can say is that Leanne favours Curvy Kate bras - I see her modelling in them all the time - and I know why; they are quality bras, designed with really big boobs in mind, plus - they're comfortable, colourful and really sexy.

But yes, I’d be recommending a 32 or 34L (CK don’t make them) or go for a KK and possibly get a back band extender.

Add: just found a pic of her with the back band showing (from the same shoot - I hope it’s okay to post it?) - and the back band is sitting pretty horizontal - which is almost perfect. So, it must be the pose causing the slight riding up in the first pic. So, with that knowledge, I reckon my assessment is right - she’s something like a 34L, but can only get a 34KK.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on October 31, 2023, 10:19:49 PM
Hello Margaret! Taking this back to the 1970's heyday, I don't know if you measured the great Sylvia McFarland. I did a search but could not find her in the women you measured.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sylvia_McFarland
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 01, 2023, 02:16:48 AM
Hello Margaret! Taking this back to the 1970's heyday, I don't know if you measured the great Sylvia McFarland. I did a search but could not find her in the women you measured.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Sylvia_McFarland

I’d need to see more pics, but she looks like a 32F/FF, possibly 32G.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 01, 2023, 04:31:20 AM
It’s *almost* a good fit (the bra is a Curvy Kate Princess, one of my absolute favourite bras of all time.
It does look like a nice garment. I always love the feel of the material they are made out of.

but this bra only goes up to a KK cup, hence the centre gore not quite sitting flush 1 and her boobs are very slightly bulging over the tops of the cups.
So, is the one she has on slightly undersize do you think?

Her pose is probably contributing to this, but I can tell by the band around the side they it’s riding up ever so slightly (isn’t the back band a whoppingly huge size?? - the back bands really are mega-big on these bras, as they have so much of the heavy lifting to do).
Yeah the back is big, but so is the front!  Actually looking at the back, I'm surprised the band narrows at the clasps, you'd have thought that would be wider with more hooks.

What I can say is that Leanne favours Curvy Kate bras - I see her modelling in them all the time - and I know why; they are quality bras, designed with really big boobs in mind, plus - they're comfortable, colourful and really sexy.
I think I will have find some more pics of her in bras, just to see how she wears them.  I guess this has changed over time.  There are some early pics of her in a bra, I will have a peruse.

and the back band is sitting pretty horizontal - which is almost perfect. So, it must be the pose causing the slight riding up in the first pic. So, with that knowledge, I reckon my assessment is right - she’s something like a 34L, but can only get a 34KK.
It must be a game changer to get a bra to fit well if you are 34KK. 

Edit: I've just had a look at Leanne's website, in the about me  it states "Measurements:32JJ-30-38", it probably needs updating, but that is where she was at one time.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 01, 2023, 04:49:09 PM
It’s *almost* a good fit (the bra is a Curvy Kate Princess, one of my absolute favourite bras of all time.
It does look like a nice garment. I always love the feel of the material they are made out of.

but this bra only goes up to a KK cup, hence the centre gore not quite sitting flush 1 and her boobs are very slightly bulging over the tops of the cups.
So, is the one she has on slightly undersize do you think?

Her pose is probably contributing to this, but I can tell by the band around the side they it’s riding up ever so slightly (isn’t the back band a whoppingly huge size?? - the back bands really are mega-big on these bras, as they have so much of the heavy lifting to do).
Yeah the back is big, but so is the front!  Actually looking at the back, I'm surprised the band narrows at the clasps, you'd have thought that would be wider with more hooks.

What I can say is that Leanne favours Curvy Kate bras - I see her modelling in them all the time - and I know why; they are quality bras, designed with really big boobs in mind, plus - they're comfortable, colourful and really sexy.
I think I will have find some more pics of her in bras, just to see how she wears them.  I guess this has changed over time.  There are some early pics of her in a bra, I will have a peruse.

and the back band is sitting pretty horizontal - which is almost perfect. So, it must be the pose causing the slight riding up in the first pic. So, with that knowledge, I reckon my assessment is right - she’s something like a 34L, but can only get a 34KK.
It must be a game changer to get a bra to fit well if you are 34KK. 

Edit: I've just had a look at Leanne's website, in the about me  it states "Measurements:32JJ-30-38", it probably needs updating, but that is where she was at one time.
I might be wrong, but I think the Princess at KK has four rows of hooks and eyes - but you’re right - you would expect it to be wider - but one of the great features of that particular bra is the side panelling - it really does do a lot of lifting and supporting. It’s an amazing bra. I have about half a dozen of them in different colours. Hopefully, Santa will bring me some more now that my size has changed a bit.

She’s definitely bigger than 32JJ - easily KK/L.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 03, 2023, 12:08:43 PM
Something I was looking at today.  This is a screen capture of video. 

I really like this outfit, but not sure what it is.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 03, 2023, 03:10:16 PM
Something I was looking at today.  This is a screen capture of video. 

I really like this outfit, but not sure what it is.

That’s called a Longline Bra - look them up, they’re really amazing. I have a few, but haven’t worn them in a while. If you find the right one in your size, they can be super-comfy.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 04, 2023, 04:19:17 AM
That’s called a Longline Bra
Ah yes, I remember now.

look them up, they’re really amazing.
I will, I think they look nice.

I have a few, but haven’t worn them in a while. If you find the right one in your size, they can be super-comfy.
Comfy and and sexy - a win win. 

You must have a huge collection of bras and lingerie?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 04, 2023, 04:44:22 AM
That’s called a Longline Bra
Ah yes, I remember now.

look them up, they’re really amazing.
I will, I think they look nice.

I have a few, but haven’t worn them in a while. If you find the right one in your size, they can be super-comfy.
Comfy and and sexy - a win win. 

You must have a huge collection of bras and lingerie?

I do indeed have a pretty massive collection. Four full drawers worth of bras, briefs, basques, strapless bras, corsets, things with clasps and chains, suspender belts and stockings. All in a variety of styles, colours and sizes (a lot of it is outside of my current size now). Some of it I haven’t looked at for years. Some of it is treasured, some of it worn beyond reasonable use - and some of it so impractical that it was perhaps worn once for fun and never again (that tends to be the stuff my husband has purchased for me). It mostly consists of bras - a lot of which were given to me to do reviews, or to test, but I have my go-to favourites that will always do the job required.

I think I perhaps have 60-100 bras, and I also have a bunch that I really need to give away or sell, as they’ll probably never ever fit me again.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 04, 2023, 05:59:36 AM
That’s called a Longline Bra
Ah yes, I remember now.

look them up, they’re really amazing.
I will, I think they look nice.

I have a few, but haven’t worn them in a while. If you find the right one in your size, they can be super-comfy.
Comfy and and sexy - a win win. 

You must have a huge collection of bras and lingerie?

I do indeed have a pretty massive collection. Four full drawers worth of bras, briefs, basques, strapless bras, corsets, things with clasps and chains, suspender belts and stockings. All in a variety of styles, colours and sizes (a lot of it is outside of my current size now). Some of it I haven’t looked at for years. Some of it is treasured, some of it worn beyond reasonable use - and some of it so impractical that it was perhaps worn once for fun and never again (that tends to be the stuff my husband has purchased for me). It mostly consists of bras - a lot of which were given to me to do reviews, or to test, but I have my go-to favourites that will always do the job required.

I think I perhaps have 60-100 bras, and I also have a bunch that I really need to give away or sell, as they’ll probably never ever fit me again.

Have you thought of perhaps opening a Bra Museum and then charge people to see them?  ??? ::) :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 04, 2023, 06:05:18 AM
I think I perhaps have 60-100 bras, and I also have a bunch that I really need to give away or sell, as they’ll probably never ever fit me again.
Goodness that is a lot. It puts my own small collection to shame.  Are there any rare ones in there, ones that may be worth more?  Any real favs that you'd never part with even if you'd never wear?  I guess if you added up how much you've spent over the years it would come to a fair bit. 

I wonder what you could do with them all - almost enough to open shop.

All the women I've ever known, family and non family always seem to have lots of clothes. It is fascinating.  I have a friend that has lots of clothes, most of it will never fit her, ever!  Like some small blouses that are like a size 9 or something.  And shoes - OMG!

I only have one piece of clothing I'll never wear again,  which is a fur lined Levis denim jacket I bought on my first trip to the US. Oh, and a pair of Levis jeans in a odd, 33" waist that I've kept.

I found this pic online today - not the most practical piece of clothing. but interesting.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 04, 2023, 06:10:58 AM
Have you thought of perhaps opening a Bra Museum and then charge people to see them?  ??? ::) :)
That did cross my mind, but a collectors type webpage may be better.  I'm going to have to look now, is there one.

Edit:  Who knew!  https://www.reddit.com/r/BraCollectors/
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 05, 2023, 04:01:56 AM
That’s called a Longline Bra
Ah yes, I remember now.

look them up, they’re really amazing.
I will, I think they look nice.

I have a few, but haven’t worn them in a while. If you find the right one in your size, they can be super-comfy.
Comfy and and sexy - a win win. 

You must have a huge collection of bras and lingerie?

I do indeed have a pretty massive collection. Four full drawers worth of bras, briefs, basques, strapless bras, corsets, things with clasps and chains, suspender belts and stockings. All in a variety of styles, colours and sizes (a lot of it is outside of my current size now). Some of it I haven’t looked at for years. Some of it is treasured, some of it worn beyond reasonable use - and some of it so impractical that it was perhaps worn once for fun and never again (that tends to be the stuff my husband has purchased for me). It mostly consists of bras - a lot of which were given to me to do reviews, or to test, but I have my go-to favourites that will always do the job required.

I think I perhaps have 60-100 bras, and I also have a bunch that I really need to give away or sell, as they’ll probably never ever fit me again.

Have you thought of perhaps opening a Bra Museum and then charge people to see them?  ??? ::) :)

😂😂 some of them certainly belong in a museum. Or the museum trash.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 05, 2023, 04:27:33 AM
I think I perhaps have 60-100 bras, and I also have a bunch that I really need to give away or sell, as they’ll probably never ever fit me again.
Goodness that is a lot. It puts my own small collection to shame.  Are there any rare ones in there, ones that may be worth more?  Any real favs that you'd never part with even if you'd never wear?  I guess if you added up how much you've spent over the years it would come to a fair bit. 

I wonder what you could do with them all - almost enough to open shop.

All the women I've ever known, family and non family always seem to have lots of clothes. It is fascinating.  I have a friend that has lots of clothes, most of it will never fit her, ever!  Like some small blouses that are like a size 9 or something.  And shoes - OMG!

I only have one piece of clothing I'll never wear again,  which is a fur lined Levis denim jacket I bought on my first trip to the US. Oh, and a pair of Levis jeans in a odd, 33" waist that I've kept.

I found this pic online today - not the most practical piece of clothing. but interesting.

That’s a cute little crop top - probably not one for me, maybe more for the younger generation.

I do tend to have go-to bras that I use every day, mainly for comfort and reliability reasons (Panache, CK, Freya, Fantasie). But I don’t necessarily have any that are valuable - maybe to someone they’d be worth something. It’s mostly a pile of bras that no longer fit me. I really should sell them or give them away. There’s a few that are “emergency” bras, or bras for special occasions (eg. Strapless). But bras are hugely expensive - even the reasonably priced ones like Curvy Kate or Flirtelle are not exactly cheap. I reckon I’ve probably spent well into the thousands over the years - although, I did get a lot of free bras for testing and reviews (and still sometimes do). And, I get bras and other underwear gifted from my partner from time to time.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 05, 2023, 04:29:15 AM
Have you thought of perhaps opening a Bra Museum and then charge people to see them?  ??? ::) :)
That did cross my mind, but a collectors type webpage may be better.  I'm going to have to look now, is there one.

Edit:  Who knew!  https://www.reddit.com/r/BraCollectors/

That’s an interesting subreddit. Not quite what I was expecting when I clicked on it. I thought maybe it would be a place for people who collect bras for… em… sentimental or value reasons. But it seems it’s about collecting them for other reasons 😳😳😳
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 06, 2023, 02:42:33 AM
I do tend to have go-to bras that I use every day, mainly for comfort and reliability reasons (Panache, CK, Freya, Fantasie).
When you find a bra that is just right, do you tend to buy another?  I do this, if I find something comfortable, I'll buy two.

I'm not sure what it is like for womens underwear, but I buy something and go back a year later to replace it, only to find the manufacturer has changed it.  This is annoying - does this happen in the bra world?

It’s mostly a pile of bras that no longer fit me. I really should sell them or give them away.
I was just thinking, if I am ever in a charity shop (I like to look at the books) I never see bras.  Lots of women's clothing, but never  bras.  I wonder why.

Bras wear out eventually - so if you have some good ones; there may be women out there that would really appreciate them. Especially how expensive they are, and how tight money is these days. I have no idea how you'd d this though.

There’s a few that are “emergency” bras, or bras for special occasions (eg. Strapless).
I can understand special accasions - not sure I understand how an emergency bra works (I guess you mean one that is a standby bra)

But bras are hugely expensive
Yes they are - surprisingly so.  However they are quite intricate garments. lots of fiddly stitching.

And, I get bras and other underwear gifted from my partner from time to time.
I've wanted to buy bras for women - but then you (me) get in to all the sizing issues (which is why taking to you is so interesting).  Not only sizing but fit and style, it is all above my pay grade, so I end up with something else as a gift.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 06, 2023, 02:43:29 AM
That’s an interesting subreddit. Not quite what I was expecting when I clicked on it.
No me either, I thought like you.

But other men collecting bras - this makes me feel less weird (or does it)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 06, 2023, 03:06:47 AM
I do tend to have go-to bras that I use every day, mainly for comfort and reliability reasons (Panache, CK, Freya, Fantasie).
When you find a bra that is just right, do you tend to buy another?  I do this, if I find something comfortable, I'll buy two.

I'm not sure what it is like for womens underwear, but I buy something and go back a year later to replace it, only to find the manufacturer has changed it.  This is annoying - does this happen in the bra world?

It’s mostly a pile of bras that no longer fit me. I really should sell them or give them away.
I was just thinking, if I am ever in a charity shop (I like to look at the books) I never see bras.  Lots of women's clothing, but never  bras.  I wonder why.

Bras wear out eventually - so if you have some good ones; there may be women out there that would really appreciate them. Especially how expensive they are, and how tight money is these days. I have no idea how you'd d this though.

There’s a few that are “emergency” bras, or bras for special occasions (eg. Strapless).
I can understand special accasions - not sure I understand how an emergency bra works (I guess you mean one that is a standby bra)

But bras are hugely expensive
Yes they are - surprisingly so.  However they are quite intricate garments. lots of fiddly stitching.

And, I get bras and other underwear gifted from my partner from time to time.
I've wanted to buy bras for women - but then you (me) get in to all the sizing issues (which is why taking to you is so interesting).  Not only sizing but fit and style, it is all above my pay grade, so I end up with something else as a gift.

I usually buy bras in pairs - not necessarily the same bra, but usually two at a time. One for every day wear and one for “going out”. For the most part, popular and classic bra styles and shapes tend to stay around for a while. A classic exa one of this is the Panache Tango II bra - it’s been around a long time, and very little changes about its design - because it’s a perfect, classic bra that just works. Same with a lot of Fantasie, Freya, Curvy Kate bras - there’s styles that just work. So they tend to be around if you need them.

In terms of emergency bras - I mean things like a strapless that works or a bra that will go with any outfit (usually black, nude or white).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 07, 2023, 11:45:42 AM
A classic exa one of this is the Panache Tango II bra - it’s been around a long time, and very little changes about its design - because it’s a perfect, classic bra that just works.
I've just looked that one up - I have a Panache in my collection, it has the very same embroidered leaf pattern.

So they tend to be around if you need them.
I once spent a some time trying to fit a detached wire in a friends bra that had come out. I think she liked this bra so much she wore it out.  I never did get that wire back in.

In terms of emergency bras - I mean things like a strapless that works or a bra that will go with any outfit (usually black, nude or white).
That is nude the skin colour?

Are strapless uncomfortable after a while, I assume you have to pop to the ladies now and then to rejig yourself?

Okay, (attached) here's a lady I'm curious about - you'll know who it is.  I think she looks great.


Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 07, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
A classic exa one of this is the Panache Tango II bra - it’s been around a long time, and very little changes about its design - because it’s a perfect, classic bra that just works.
I've just looked that one up - I have a Panache in my collection, it has the very same embroidered leaf pattern.

So they tend to be around if you need them.
I once spent a some time trying to fit a detached wire in a friends bra that had come out. I think she liked this bra so much she wore it out.  I never did get that wire back in.

In terms of emergency bras - I mean things like a strapless that works or a bra that will go with any outfit (usually black, nude or white).
That is nude the skin colour?

Are strapless uncomfortable after a while, I assume you have to pop to the ladies now and then to rejig yourself?

Okay, (attached) here's a lady I'm curious about - you'll know who it is.  I think she looks great.

Yes - nude, the skin colour. Surprisingly, a nude bra is better under a white top than a white bra is.

Strapless bras really aren’t designed to be entirely comfortable - largely because of what they neee to do. However, I have a few Curvy Kate Luxe bras (and a couple of other brands of strapless) that are incredible feats of engineering, and, are mostly comfortable too.

And… yes. I know who this lady is. I’ll keep politics out of it and say she’s probably a 30D, possibly a 30E. The bra she’s wearing is designed to make your boobs look bigger (I think it’s an Ultimo - I’ve never worn one and never would). I’m not keen on her as a person, a personality, a business woman - or, indeed, a so-called politician.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 08, 2023, 02:33:34 AM
she’s probably a 30D, possibly a 30E.
Cheers.

(I think it’s an Ultimo - I’ve never worn one and never would).
Ah that was the brand, I couldn't remember what her company was called.  Would you not wear one because they aren't good bras, or because of Ultimo the brand?

I’m not keen on her as a person, a personality, a business woman - or, indeed, a so-called politician.
I agree - but apparently the net is tightening on the PPE money.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 08, 2023, 02:38:56 AM
How to make a blouse look good if you have big boobs.

I think Abbi does well here, but see how the base of the blouse sticks out from her waist. Is there anything a busty woman can do to minimize this?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 09, 2023, 01:16:52 AM
she’s probably a 30D, possibly a 30E.
Cheers.

(I think it’s an Ultimo - I’ve never worn one and never would).
Ah that was the brand, I couldn't remember what her company was called.  Would you not wear one because they aren't good bras, or because of Ultimo the brand?

I’m not keen on her as a person, a personality, a business woman - or, indeed, a so-called politician.
I agree - but apparently the net is tightening on the PPE money.

They’re just not bras for someone like me. They’re specifically designed to push your boobs up and out / they’re more a fashion bra for young, small-boobed women - and they’re not very comfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 09, 2023, 01:18:47 AM
How to make a blouse look good if you have big boobs.

I think Abbi does well here, but see how the base of the blouse sticks out from her waist. Is there anything a busty woman can do to minimize this?

Any clothing with big boobs is a challenge - blouses tend to either over-emphasise them, or, make you look fat. Finding flattering clothes is generally quite frustrating.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 09, 2023, 03:38:32 AM
Any clothing with big boobs is a challenge - blouses tend to either over-emphasise them, or, make you look fat. Finding flattering clothes is generally quite frustrating.
Have you found a solution?

I have a recollection about a garment that flattened a woman's boobs, which sounds awful.

Ah this is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_binding

This is a rabbit hole I didn't expect to go down, just found Minimiser Bras - https://www.marksandspencer.com/l/lingerie/bras/fs5/minimiser-1 

Is a Minimiser Bra something that would work for someone bigger than a D?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 09, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Any clothing with big boobs is a challenge - blouses tend to either over-emphasise them, or, make you look fat. Finding flattering clothes is generally quite frustrating.
Have you found a solution?

I have a recollection about a garment that flattened a woman's boobs, which sounds awful.

Ah this is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_binding

This is a rabbit hole I didn't expect to go down, just found Minimiser Bras - https://www.marksandspencer.com/l/lingerie/bras/fs5/minimiser-1 

Is a Minimiser Bra something that would work for someone bigger than a D?

I think the solution is always just to keep looking - and wear what makes you feel comfortable and happy. It’s a difficult relationship though - there’s been times I’ve seen photos of a friend wearing an amazing, tight minidress and naively ordered one for myself, in the crazy hope that I’d look as good as she does - only to find out I’ve deluded myself. I’ve also bought outfits, dresses etc and come home and tried them on, but ended up sobbing at the sight of myself in the mirror. And then there’s times I get it right (not often!) and it feels amazing. The right dress/outfit/shoes/boots/hair/whatever has a transformational effect. You feel happy, comfortable and sexy.

Now, minimiser bras - I’ve sort-of tried them. Not extreme ones (like binding), but just ones that flatten you down slightly (this was a long time ago), and they’re not great. I understand why some women would want to reduce the appearance of big boobs, but I kind of just dress in a way that doesn’t draw attention to my boobs. I’m not a prude, but I don’t like unwanted attention. Or stares (from anyone). It’s a rare occasion when I show too much cleavage (other than to my partner). I have friends who are happy for their boobs to be a big feature of their image - many women do. But not me. I’m also getting older, and it’s not flattering to dress like a young person - but, in my day, I wore short skirts/dresses and low cut tops. Nowadays, if I tried that, I’d look like something from a bad comedy sketch - so I dress to the occasion and to make myself happy and comfortable.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 10, 2023, 02:22:08 AM
I think the solution is always just to keep looking - and wear what makes you feel comfortable and happy.
I agree, and I think this gets easier as we get older.  I was in the supermarket recently, it is cold so I had a hat on. I took my hat off as I went in the shop.  The thing is, when I saw myself in the window when I left - my hair had been sticking up all the time.  I just chuckled to myself. I don't care think these days.

I’ve also bought outfits, dresses etc and come home and tried them on, but ended up sobbing at the sight of myself in the mirror. And then there’s times I get it right (not often!) and it feels amazing. The right dress/outfit/shoes/boots/hair/whatever has a transformational effect. You feel happy, comfortable and sexy.
Something that I am envious, but also not envious of women and their clothes.  I have never felt the highs and lows of my outfit.  Mine have always been, well, meh.  It would be great to have an outfit and feel I look good. I only feel like that if I wear a suit and tie, but there isn't much variety in it.

Now, minimiser bras - I’ve sort-of tried them. Not extreme ones (like binding), but just ones that flatten you down slightly (this was a long time ago), and they’re not great. I understand why some women would want to reduce the appearance of big boobs,
Binding sounds medieval. I assume minimiser bras don't have that great of an effect, and only for smaller ladies.

I kind of just dress in a way that doesn’t draw attention to my boobs. I’m not a prude, but I don’t like unwanted attention. Or stares (from anyone).
I have seen this stare myself, jeez probably done it too.  I wouldn't want it either.

The fashion for really tight yoga pants that women all seem to be wearing.  They really are very revealing, I honestly don't want to see this while I am picking some parsnips.  I'm not sure of this is confidence or ignorance on some women.

It’s a rare occasion when I show too much cleavage
I was going to ask you about cleavage. Its a tricky one. I feel it okay in a cocktail dress, but not at the supermarket.

I have friends who are happy for their boobs to be a big feature of their image - many women do.
I do know of women like that.  I also know women who have never used there boobs like that. I don't think a woman should define herself for just her chest.

it’s not flattering to dress like a young person
I do see that a lot where I live. It isn't just the clothes, the hair and the tan - it isn't a good look for a middle aged woman.

I wore short skirts/dresses and low cut tops. Nowadays, if I tried that, I’d look like something from a bad comedy sketch - so I dress to the occasion and to make myself happy and comfortable.
When you did dress in skirts/dresses and low cut tops (and I'm not sure how to phrase this) what were your thoughts when deciding what to wear?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 10, 2023, 02:30:52 AM
I had a crush on Gabrielle Drake when I was young, never knew she did nudes.

But what was her bust size?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 10, 2023, 03:01:04 AM
I had a crush on Gabrielle Drake when I was young, never knew she did nudes.

But what was her bust size?

Possibly something like 28D.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 10, 2023, 03:10:25 AM
I think the solution is always just to keep looking - and wear what makes you feel comfortable and happy.
I agree, and I think this gets easier as we get older.  I was in the supermarket recently, it is cold so I had a hat on. I took my hat off as I went in the shop.  The thing is, when I saw myself in the window when I left - my hair had been sticking up all the time.  I just chuckled to myself. I don't care think these days.

I’ve also bought outfits, dresses etc and come home and tried them on, but ended up sobbing at the sight of myself in the mirror. And then there’s times I get it right (not often!) and it feels amazing. The right dress/outfit/shoes/boots/hair/whatever has a transformational effect. You feel happy, comfortable and sexy.
Something that I am envious, but also not envious of women and their clothes.  I have never felt the highs and lows of my outfit.  Mine have always been, well, meh.  It would be great to have an outfit and feel I look good. I only feel like that if I wear a suit and tie, but there isn't much variety in it.

Now, minimiser bras - I’ve sort-of tried them. Not extreme ones (like binding), but just ones that flatten you down slightly (this was a long time ago), and they’re not great. I understand why some women would want to reduce the appearance of big boobs,
Binding sounds medieval. I assume minimiser bras don't have that great of an effect, and only for smaller ladies.

I kind of just dress in a way that doesn’t draw attention to my boobs. I’m not a prude, but I don’t like unwanted attention. Or stares (from anyone).
I have seen this stare myself, jeez probably done it too.  I wouldn't want it either.

The fashion for really tight yoga pants that women all seem to be wearing.  They really are very revealing, I honestly don't want to see this while I am picking some parsnips.  I'm not sure of this is confidence or ignorance on some women.

It’s a rare occasion when I show too much cleavage
I was going to ask you about cleavage. Its a tricky one. I feel it okay in a cocktail dress, but not at the supermarket.

I have friends who are happy for their boobs to be a big feature of their image - many women do.
I do know of women like that.  I also know women who have never used there boobs like that. I don't think a woman should define herself for just her chest.

it’s not flattering to dress like a young person
I do see that a lot where I live. It isn't just the clothes, the hair and the tan - it isn't a good look for a middle aged woman.

I wore short skirts/dresses and low cut tops. Nowadays, if I tried that, I’d look like something from a bad comedy sketch - so I dress to the occasion and to make myself happy and comfortable.
When you did dress in skirts/dresses and low cut tops (and I'm not sure how to phrase this) what were your thoughts when deciding what to wear?
When deciding, I usually just wore what I liked to wear. I wasn’t a fan of miniskirts or minidresses, as such, but if o wanted to wear one, I did. I always really liked short flairy skirts, and I was a massive fan of tea dresses (short, low cut ones). But I also liked a skirt suit (I had a herringbone one that I really loved). When I worked in an office in one of my early jobs as a teenager, I used to wear a short black pleated skirt, a blouse, opaque black tights with an really high denier - and black patent high heels. I always enjoyed wearing stuff like that - but, then again, I was younger, much slimmer (and while I had big boobs, they weren’t 30GGs).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 13, 2023, 02:52:30 AM
I wasn’t a fan of miniskirts or minidresses, as such, but if o wanted to wear one, I did.
I've never really liked the look to be honest.  Too revealing, but on a really hot day, yeah I can see the appeal.

I was a massive fan of tea dresses (short, low cut ones).
I will have to look that one up. (I just did, they look nice, stylish but comfortable).

But I also liked a skirt suit (I had a herringbone one that I really loved).
Yep love that look.

I used to wear a short black pleated skirt, a blouse, opaque black tights with an really high denier - and black patent high heels.
A classic style that I do like - I find women wearing that outfit slightly intimidating, but it looks great.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 13, 2023, 02:57:00 AM
I love this combi.  Almost like wedding lingerie if that is a thing.

I was a in a charity shop Saturday, they had a vintage wedding dress that was interesting, only £45.  I don't think it would fit me!  haha
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 13, 2023, 03:11:31 AM
I love this combi.  Almost like wedding lingerie if that is a thing.

I was a in a charity shop Saturday, they had a vintage wedding dress that was interesting, only £45.  I don't think it would fit me!  haha

That is a nice combo. It’s been a long time since I wore a white bra and suspenders set. Even longer since I wore a wedding dress. Wedding dresses are another one of those magical things - it’s very difficult to describe the feeling, experience and emotion. I still have mine.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 13, 2023, 03:50:19 AM
It’s been a long time since I wore a white bra and suspenders set.
I feel that they only look really nice on someone with a darker skin tone, like a tan.  But that is just a preference on my part.

it’s very difficult to describe the feeling, experience and emotion. I still have mine.
Which is why I'd like to try one!

Here's some more on that outfit - I'll post a link due to the 1.1.1.1 rule.

https://www.primecurves.com/taryn-pretty-in-white-cosmid/
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 13, 2023, 06:51:42 AM
It’s been a long time since I wore a white bra and suspenders set.
I feel that they only look really nice on someone with a darker skin tone, like a tan.  But that is just a preference on my part.

it’s very difficult to describe the feeling, experience and emotion. I still have mine.
Which is why I'd like to try one!

Here's some more on that outfit - I'll post a link due to the 1.1.1.1 rule.

https://www.primecurves.com/taryn-pretty-in-white-cosmid/

It’s a beautiful set - especially the bra. I’m not big on thongs though.

I can still remember trying out my wedding dress for the fitting - and, getting everything in place on the day; my hair, my lingerie (corset-style basque with suspenders), my makeup, the shoes and dress, my little borrowed blue garter. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so special or beautiful. Of course, after a few hours I was dying to get out of it! Long time ago now, but it was magical at the time. The only real way to describe it is truly like feeling like a princess for the day.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 13, 2023, 07:23:14 AM
It’s been a long time since I wore a white bra and suspenders set.
I feel that they only look really nice on someone with a darker skin tone, like a tan.  But that is just a preference on my part.

it’s very difficult to describe the feeling, experience and emotion. I still have mine.
Which is why I'd like to try one!

Here's some more on that outfit - I'll post a link due to the 1.1.1.1 rule.

https://www.primecurves.com/taryn-pretty-in-white-cosmid/

It’s a beautiful set - especially the bra. I’m not big on thongs though.

I can still remember trying out my wedding dress for the fitting - and, getting everything in place on the day; my hair, my lingerie (corset-style basque with suspenders), my makeup, the shoes and dress, my little borrowed blue garter. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so special or beautiful. Of course, after a few hours I was dying to get out of it! Long time ago now, but it was magical at the time. The only real way to describe it is truly like feeling like a princess for the day.

Believe me, you are still a Princess, or better yet, a Queen.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 13, 2023, 09:07:55 AM
It’s been a long time since I wore a white bra and suspenders set.
I feel that they only look really nice on someone with a darker skin tone, like a tan.  But that is just a preference on my part.

it’s very difficult to describe the feeling, experience and emotion. I still have mine.
Which is why I'd like to try one!

Here's some more on that outfit - I'll post a link due to the 1.1.1.1 rule.

https://www.primecurves.com/taryn-pretty-in-white-cosmid/

It’s a beautiful set - especially the bra. I’m not big on thongs though.

I can still remember trying out my wedding dress for the fitting - and, getting everything in place on the day; my hair, my lingerie (corset-style basque with suspenders), my makeup, the shoes and dress, my little borrowed blue garter. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so special or beautiful. Of course, after a few hours I was dying to get out of it! Long time ago now, but it was magical at the time. The only real way to describe it is truly like feeling like a princess for the day.

Believe me, you are still a Princess, or better yet, a Queen.  :)

Why thank you. The subject of wedding dresses, wedding lingerie and all things wedding-related is one I could spend a LOT of time on. Even now, attending a wedding as a guest is a great experience (if you get the right outfit, that is) - the process of selecting an outfit is still as fraught (if only slightly less fraught than being the actual bride on the day).

It’s a really wonderful experience.

Is there a ‘big-boobed bride’ thread here on the BEA?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 15, 2023, 06:41:52 AM
Is there a ‘big-boobed bride’ thread here on the BEA?
I was going to post one of Abbi, but I can't seem to post today for some reason.

Edit:

I shall try a URL - https://static-eu-cdn.eporner.com/gallery/3P/ps/noOCbnaps3P/104416-abbi-secraa-nude.jpg
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 15, 2023, 06:55:41 AM
I wonder if you've ever tried leather or more fetish styles of lingerie. I can't really say it is my thing, but I do find it interesting. 

I was looking at something the other day, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was.  I guess it was like spandex type lingerie, something like that.  All fascinating stuff.

And I have an estimation for you - What is a turnaround? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCk9yBBOUo)

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on November 15, 2023, 07:42:08 AM
Is there a ‘big-boobed bride’ thread here on the BEA?

I didn’t see an answer to this. 

Yes: “Busty in a Wedding Dress?” thread found HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=243257.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2023, 11:45:20 AM
Is there a ‘big-boobed bride’ thread here on the BEA?

Amazing - thank you.

I didn’t see an answer to this. 

Yes: “Busty in a Wedding Dress?” thread found HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=243257.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2023, 11:46:14 AM
Is there a ‘big-boobed bride’ thread here on the BEA?
I was going to post one of Abbi, but I can't seem to post today for some reason.

Edit:

I shall try a URL - https://static-eu-cdn.eporner.com/gallery/3P/ps/noOCbnaps3P/104416-abbi-secraa-nude.jpg

That’s certainly something someone could try for wedding lingerie! Might need some support though…
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2023, 12:37:58 PM
I wonder if you've ever tried leather or more fetish styles of lingerie. I can't really say it is my thing, but I do find it interesting. 

I was looking at something the other day, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was.  I guess it was like spandex type lingerie, something like that.  All fascinating stuff.

And I have an estimation for you - What is a turnaround? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCk9yBBOUo)

That’s a tricky one, as I don’t really have any other context to go with - but it’s going to be something like a 32F, maybe a 30G.

In terms of lingerie I’ve tried over the many years, I’ve never really tried “fetish” stuff - as such - but I’ve had a lot of varieties of every kind of lingerie; corset-style basques, normal basques, suspender sets - I have had leather-style bras and suspender sets (one was a sort of fake snakeskin material, it was really thin straps etc and didn’t do much for me). I’ve had all manner of colours, all manner of straps, buckles, clasps and clips. I’ve had baby dolls, knickers with built-in suspenders, corslettes, vintage lingerie, longline bras, bodyshapers, crotchless knickers, things that resemble dental floss and bras that wouldn’t wouldn’t withstand a light breeze. You won’t be surprised that most of this was purchased by my partner - and is often worn for no longer than around 40 minutes.

But the lingerie I’m happiest in is a nice bra set (Curvy Kate FTW), or a really comfortable bodyshaper (and in my younger days, I loved a bodyshaper with suspenders - but not so much now). Fetish stuff tends to be for the bedroom - it’s certainly something you can wear all day.

Wedding lingerie was they one exception - once I had found what I was looking for and was comfortable in.l, I wore it all day and loved it - and wore it many times afterwards, to the point where it was literally falling apart on me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2023, 12:39:37 PM
I wonder if you've ever tried leather or more fetish styles of lingerie. I can't really say it is my thing, but I do find it interesting. 

I was looking at something the other day, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was.  I guess it was like spandex type lingerie, something like that.  All fascinating stuff.

And I have an estimation for you - What is a turnaround? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCk9yBBOUo)

That’s a tricky one, as I don’t really have any other context to go with - but it’s going to be something like a 32F, maybe a 30G.

In terms of lingerie I’ve tried over the many years, I’ve never really tried “fetish” stuff - as such - but I’ve had a lot of varieties of every kind of lingerie; corset-style basques, normal basques, suspender sets - I have had leather-style bras and suspender sets (one was a sort of fake snakeskin material, it was really thin straps etc and didn’t do much for me). I’ve had all manner of colours, all manner of straps, buckles, clasps and clips. I’ve had baby dolls, knickers with built-in suspenders, corslettes, vintage lingerie, longline bras, bodyshapers, crotchless knickers, things that resemble dental floss and bras that wouldn’t withstand a light breeze. You won’t be surprised that most of this was purchased by my partner - and is often worn for no longer than around 40 minutes.

But the lingerie I’m happiest in is a nice bra set (Curvy Kate FTW), or a really comfortable bodyshaper (and in my younger days, I loved a bodyshaper with suspenders - but not so much now). Fetish stuff tends to be for the bedroom - it’s certainly not something you can wear all day.

Wedding lingerie was they one exception - once I had found what I was looking for and was comfortable in.l, I wore it all day and loved it - and wore it many times afterwards, to the point where it was literally falling apart on me.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 15, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
Yes: “Busty in a Wedding Dress?” thread found HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=243257.0)
I thought there was, but to be honest I wasn't sure.  Cheers for looking it up and stopping me starting a new thread.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 15, 2023, 01:37:17 PM
That’s a tricky one, as I don’t really have any other context to go with - but it’s going to be something like a 32F, maybe a 30G.
Cheers.

I’ve never really tried “fetish” stuff - as such - but I’ve had a lot of varieties of every kind of lingerie; corset-style basques, normal basques, suspender sets
Goodness, that pretty much covers all the types.

I have had leather-style bras and suspender sets
I've never really got the leather fetish and where it comes from.

I’ve had baby dolls, knickers with built-in suspenders, corslettes, vintage lingerie, longline bras, bodyshapers, crotchless knickers, things that resemble dental floss and bras that wouldn’t wouldn’t withstand a light breeze. You won’t be surprised that most of this was purchased by my partner - and is often worn for no longer than around 40 minutes.
Baby-doll always reminds me of vintage 70's adult movies.  Non of that sort of gear looks comfortable to wear.  Although I do love the look of a basque* or corsett.

I never buy ladies lingerie, not that I don't want too, but I'm not going to pressure someone to dress in a certain way.  I do like them to wear stockings suspenders in the bedroom, but that's about as far as I tend to go.  But at the end of the day, their choice.  And often I find sex is quite spontaneous. No time for dressing up.

But the lingerie I’m happiest in is a nice bra set (Curvy Kate FTW), or a really comfortable bodyshaper (and in my younger days, I loved a bodyshaper with suspenders
Personally I prefer that look.

Wedding lingerie was they one exception - once I had found what I was looking for and was comfortable in.l, I wore it all day and loved it - and wore it many times afterwards, to the point where it was literally falling apart on me.
Wedding lingerie is normally white? 

Yeah I love clothes like that - I have hats and gloves that fit that bill.

*Just looked up basque to see if I had the spelling corect and found this:  Pour Moi (https://www.pourmoi.co.uk/product/lavish-push-up-basque-set/?curr=gbp&msclkid=d8d218b6596b1b2844447de345411391&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20%7C%20Generic%20-%20High%20-%20Bing&utm_term=4585994284228254&utm_content=Lingerie)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 15, 2023, 03:44:26 PM
That’s a tricky one, as I don’t really have any other context to go with - but it’s going to be something like a 32F, maybe a 30G.
Cheers.

I’ve never really tried “fetish” stuff - as such - but I’ve had a lot of varieties of every kind of lingerie; corset-style basques, normal basques, suspender sets
Goodness, that pretty much covers all the types.

I have had leather-style bras and suspender sets
I've never really got the leather fetish and where it comes from.

I’ve had baby dolls, knickers with built-in suspenders, corslettes, vintage lingerie, longline bras, bodyshapers, crotchless knickers, things that resemble dental floss and bras that wouldn’t wouldn’t withstand a light breeze. You won’t be surprised that most of this was purchased by my partner - and is often worn for no longer than around 40 minutes.
Baby-doll always reminds me of vintage 70's adult movies.  Non of that sort of gear looks comfortable to wear.  Although I do love the look of a basque* or corsett.

I never buy ladies lingerie, not that I don't want too, but I'm not going to pressure someone to dress in a certain way.  I do like them to wear stockings suspenders in the bedroom, but that's about as far as I tend to go.  But at the end of the day, their choice.  And often I find sex is quite spontaneous. No time for dressing up.

But the lingerie I’m happiest in is a nice bra set (Curvy Kate FTW), or a really comfortable bodyshaper (and in my younger days, I loved a bodyshaper with suspenders
Personally I prefer that look.

Wedding lingerie was they one exception - once I had found what I was looking for and was comfortable in.l, I wore it all day and loved it - and wore it many times afterwards, to the point where it was literally falling apart on me.
Wedding lingerie is normally white? 

Yeah I love clothes like that - I have hats and gloves that fit that bill.

*Just looked up basque to see if I had the spelling corect and found this:  Pour Moi (https://www.pourmoi.co.uk/product/lavish-push-up-basque-set/?curr=gbp&msclkid=d8d218b6596b1b2844447de345411391&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20%7C%20Generic%20-%20High%20-%20Bing&utm_term=4585994284228254&utm_content=Lingerie)

Yes - wedding lingerie tends to be white. I had a corset/basque with white high top stockings for my wedding lingerie (and a little blue garter), which I took a long time to source, and I also got it altered slightly.

In terms of babydolls, I’ve had a few (mostly as gifts). One was from La Senza and had a front-fastening moulded cup bra (which wasn’t my size or style), and was made of couple-type semi-transparent black material. But I also had a Curvy Kate one (which *was* my bra size) and it was really lovely - the main issue is that you can’t really wear a babydoll under any clothes - it’s pretty much a sl33p wear garment, but is actually more “bedroom” wear (if you catch my drift). But, I once had a black marabou babydoll that my partner got me (Google it) - and all I can say is that it felt sooooo good on. I felt sooo sexy wearing it, and often sl33p wearing it. It’s long gone though.

As for basques (that Pour Moi one is a good example, if a tad uncomfortable looking) - there was a time I enjoyed wearing them (for fun - they’re not exactly comfort-wear), but I always preferred a bodyshaper.

Unfortunately, all of these items are not really big-boob friendly or terribly comfortable - they’re mostly a visual treat for someone else and largely designed to get the blood pumping. 😘
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 16, 2023, 04:10:56 AM
I should add to this something I’ve been meaning to post about… bedroom wear and sl33pwear.

If you’re big-boobed, it’s really not a great idea sl33ping in a bra or anything with complex straps/underwires and tight bands. Some people do it, but I don’t recommend it. It can prolong pressure on your breast tissue and lead to medical issues and shape issues. Not to mention weal marks and sores. There are “sl33p” bras you can get (Curvy Kate do an “all day” bra with zero wires in it which I tested and it was fine, but just not for me). It’s better to go braless with either a slip or a pyjama top, or tshirt. Or - just go nude.

I’ve woke up once or twice (having zonked out the night before) wearing complex underwear (usually after one too many drinks and too much fooling about in the dark), and it leaves a scar, trust me.

However, there’s been plenty of times when I’ve slipped into something really smooth and soft and sexy - a gorgeous little nightie or a babydoll, and it’s been a lovely sl33p between the sheets, and, what’s more - your boobs don’t get punished (unless you specifically requested them to be punished, that is). 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 16, 2023, 07:06:13 AM
(and a little blue garter), which I took a long time to source, and I also got it altered slightly.
Was that because of it being blue?

One was from La Senza and had a front-fastening moulded cup bra (which wasn’t my size or style), and was made of couple-type semi-transparent black material.
Sounds interesting.

but is actually more “bedroom” wear (if you catch my drift).
Yep.

But, I once had a black marabou babydoll that my partner got me (Google it) - and all I can say is that it felt sooooo good on. I felt sooo sexy wearing it, and often sl33p wearing it. It’s long gone though.
That does look nice (just looked it up).

As for basques (that Pour Moi one is a good example, if a tad uncomfortable looking) - there was a time I enjoyed wearing them (for fun - they’re not exactly comfort-wear), but I always preferred a bodyshaper.
The comfortableness (or lack of) of these is the thing that always stands out to me.  I love the look and how it shapes a woman's body, but got to be only wearable for a short time.

Unfortunately, all of these items are not really big-boob friendly or terribly comfortable - they’re mostly a visual treat for someone else and largely designed to get the blood pumping. 😘
I just love the look, I can't say this sort of stuff really gets me going, I feel it is more the esthetic. But not only the look, but the feel of these clothes, just so tactile.  The sexy part is how it makes a woman feel, that is the bit that turns me on.

I'm sure you look absolutely fantastic when you dress in lingerie.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 16, 2023, 07:15:53 AM
If you’re big-boobed, it’s really not a great idea sl33ping in a bra or anything with complex straps/underwires and tight bands.
I can imagine.  Most people move about when they sl33p, and you body needs to be free to move.

It’s better to go braless with either a slip or a pyjama top, or tshirt. Or - just go nude.
Most women I know go for the long t-shirts of PJ's.  I don't know many women who sl33p nude for some reason. I prefer it, apart from going to the loo in the night when you find out how cold the bathroom is!

I’ve woke up once or twice (having zonked out the night before) wearing complex underwear (usually after one too many drinks and too much fooling about in the dark), and it leaves a scar, trust me.
I think we've all been there to be honest.

what’s more - your boobs don’t get punished (unless you specifically requested them to be punished, that is).
I would never punish boobs...
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 17, 2023, 05:36:35 AM
(and a little blue garter), which I took a long time to source, and I also got it altered slightly.
Was that because of it being blue?

One was from La Senza and had a front-fastening moulded cup bra (which wasn’t my size or style), and was made of couple-type semi-transparent black material.
Sounds interesting.

but is actually more “bedroom” wear (if you catch my drift).
Yep.

But, I once had a black marabou babydoll that my partner got me (Google it) - and all I can say is that it felt sooooo good on. I felt sooo sexy wearing it, and often sl33p wearing it. It’s long gone though.
That does look nice (just looked it up).

As for basques (that Pour Moi one is a good example, if a tad uncomfortable looking) - there was a time I enjoyed wearing them (for fun - they’re not exactly comfort-wear), but I always preferred a bodyshaper.
The comfortableness (or lack of) of these is the thing that always stands out to me.  I love the look and how it shapes a woman's body, but got to be only wearable for a short time.

Unfortunately, all of these items are not really big-boob friendly or terribly comfortable - they’re mostly a visual treat for someone else and largely designed to get the blood pumping. 😘
I just love the look, I can't say this sort of stuff really gets me going, I feel it is more the esthetic. But not only the look, but the feel of these clothes, just so tactile.  The sexy part is how it makes a woman feel, that is the bit that turns me on.

I'm sure you look absolutely fantastic when you dress in lingerie.

Yes - it was a “something blue” garter. I still have it. The whole process of getting ready for wedding day is still fresh in my mind. It’s an absolutely magical experience; hair and makeup, putting on all the lingerie, getting into the shoes and dress - my dress was white, ballgown type and strapless/off-the-shoulder. It closet of crossed over my boobs at the front - which is why I needed the corset-style basque. I had to find one with ample enough cups, and then have the shoulder straps removed and an inch added to the side lining (I can’t remember the brand, I think it was either Charnos or Fabtasie). Then, getting picked up in the cars, being given away, the ceremony, the meal, **94** and dancing - and then afterwards in the hotel 😘

I don’t think I’ll ever forget the look on my then fiancé’s face when he saw me arrive. It’s an incredible feeling just to be admired and desired like that. And his dislocated jaw when the dress came off later. 😘

I’ll try and find a rough example of what my lingerie and dress looked like. But it’s been a while (I’m not keen to post photos of my actual dress, for obvious reasons).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 17, 2023, 05:56:13 AM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.

I was slightly bigger in the boobs than these two lovely women though.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 17, 2023, 07:06:11 AM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.

I was slightly bigger in the boobs than these two lovely women though.

Wow, you must be a true beauty queen.  :o :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 17, 2023, 07:36:39 AM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.

I was slightly bigger in the boobs than these two lovely women though.

Wow, you must be a true beauty queen.  :o :)

Well, I don’t know about that - but I certainly felt like one.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 18, 2023, 02:52:00 AM
my dress was white, ballgown type and strapless/off-the-shoulder. It closet of crossed over my boobs at the front - which is why I needed the corset-style basque. I had to find one with ample enough cups, and then have the shoulder straps removed and an inch added to the side lining
My first thought when seeing the style was how your boobs would fit.  I guess with a dress which is essentially fitted, you can make all the modifications you need.

I don’t think I’ll ever forget the look on my then fiancé’s face when he saw me arrive. It’s an incredible feeling just to be admired and desired like that. And his dislocated jaw when the dress came off later. 😘
You're getting me going Margaret!  I do love the anticipation and reveal.  Something about how my imagination of a woman's body; and then seeing it in reality ... is soo magical.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 18, 2023, 02:52:48 AM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.
Both look amazing.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 18, 2023, 04:10:04 AM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.
Both look amazing.
It was a magical experience. I still have my dress, but not the lingerie.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 18, 2023, 04:15:44 AM
my dress was white, ballgown type and strapless/off-the-shoulder. It closet of crossed over my boobs at the front - which is why I needed the corset-style basque. I had to find one with ample enough cups, and then have the shoulder straps removed and an inch added to the side lining
My first thought when seeing the style was how your boobs would fit.  I guess with a dress which is essentially fitted, you can make all the modifications you need.

I don’t think I’ll ever forget the look on my then fiancé’s face when he saw me arrive. It’s an incredible feeling just to be admired and desired like that. And his dislocated jaw when the dress came off later. 😘
You're getting me going Margaret!  I do love the anticipation and reveal.  Something about how my imagination of a woman's body; and then seeing it in reality ... is soo magical.

Getting the lingerie adjusted helped. I wasn’t as big in the boobs as I am now (I was wearing the wrong bra size for a long time, as most women do). I would have been something like a 32E at the time, but I think the size on the basque was a 34DD - it was a bit tight under the arms. I took it to an alterers and they removed the shoulder straps and added some material to the side panels, so that I could move in it, and, so that my boobs stayed in place. Once the dress was fitted/altered and on, my boobs didn’t move - and I was keen to avoid cleavage. The dress also has multiple layers under it to give the overall look of volume - they’re made of voile - and I had a little voile headdress and tiara, which I took off after the ceremony. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 18, 2023, 01:13:24 PM
This is almost exactly like the basque/corset i had. And pretty much what my dress looked like.

I was slightly bigger in the boobs than these two lovely women though.

Purely in the interests of research, I dug out my wedding photo album to refresh my memory - and wouldn’t you know it, I got my dress style skightly wrong. I can’t think why (there were a lot of weddings at the same time - but you’d think I would remember my own wedding dress!). It was actually a corset-style dress (I think I had a shrug/wrap, which makes me think I had it off-shoulder).

It brought back a lot of memories looking through it. 😘😘😘
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 18, 2023, 10:01:31 PM
^ As time goes by and you naturally age, memories and several of their details can be forgotten or changed. Most of us do not have what is called photographic memory.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 19, 2023, 04:19:08 AM
Purely in the interests of research, I dug out my wedding photo album to refresh my memory
I thought you'd be reminiscing.  It is fascinating how we think we remember things and then we find out that we didn't quite get it right.

I wonder if you'd ever do it all again (not remarried) but like if you could go back in time and reenact the whole thing?

You've made me reminisce about all the weddings I've been too - some as a kid.  My sister got married in the 80's, when the only record was apart from pictures was an audio tape.  I'm sure that wedding cost £25K even back then (£81k today jeez) glad I didn't have to pay that!

I do wonder what the future of marriage is. I don't think people are going for it as much as they did,
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on November 19, 2023, 04:40:32 AM
Purely in the interests of research, I dug out my wedding photo album to refresh my memory
I thought you'd be reminiscing.  It is fascinating how we think we remember things and then we find out that we didn't quite get it right.

I wonder if you'd ever do it all again (not remarried) but like if you could go back in time and reenact the whole thing?

You've made me reminisce about all the weddings I've been too - some as a kid.  My sister got married in the 80's, when the only record was apart from pictures was an audio tape.  I'm sure that wedding cost £25K even back then (£81k today jeez) glad I didn't have to pay that!

I do wonder what the future of marriage is. I don't think people are going for it as much as they did,


The institution of marriage has been in decline for 60+ years in the Western World and it is now in decline throughout the world. I'm old enough to remember how we were going to have world overpopulation but now it is a crisis of world depopulation. It is now predicted that China's population will be half of what it is now by the end of this century. There will be too many old people and not enough young people.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 20, 2023, 01:05:12 PM
Purely in the interests of research, I dug out my wedding photo album to refresh my memory
I thought you'd be reminiscing.  It is fascinating how we think we remember things and then we find out that we didn't quite get it right.

I wonder if you'd ever do it all again (not remarried) but like if you could go back in time and reenact the whole thing?

You've made me reminisce about all the weddings I've been too - some as a kid.  My sister got married in the 80's, when the only record was apart from pictures was an audio tape.  I'm sure that wedding cost £25K even back then (£81k today jeez) glad I didn't have to pay that!

I do wonder what the future of marriage is. I don't think people are going for it as much as they did,

I’d do it all again in a heartbeat - but you can never go back. I’ll never be that young again - but that’s fine. It was a truly magical experience - it’s the very definition of being a princess for the day - something I’m sure almost every little girl dreams of doing at some point in their early life. I have great memories of it, and I still have the dress (if not the lingerie) it’s packed away in storage. I’ve no idea if it would fit me (I very much doubt it).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on November 21, 2023, 02:17:16 AM
Edited.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Hiram on November 21, 2023, 04:59:05 AM
I’d do it all again in a heartbeat - but you can never go back. I’ll never be that young again - but that’s fine.
No, alas true.  Although with virtual reality, in the future, maybe.

something I’m sure almost every little girl dreams of doing at some point in their early life.
I don't think that ever leaves a women - I have a friend who will pop in to random weddings when she sees one as she enjoys them.

I have great memories of it,
These days people will have high quality video to watch when they get older.  I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not. It is nice to reminisce. 
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on December 28, 2023, 08:12:38 PM
Is Hiram alright? Haven't noticed him around for awhile.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 28, 2023, 11:08:05 PM
Is Hiram alright? Haven't noticed him around for awhile.

I thought I was the only one who had noticed his absence. Hope he's alright.  ???
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 01, 2024, 08:07:04 AM
I noticed this too. Haven’t heard from him in weeks. We had been in touch by email, but he’s not responding to any messages now. I hope he’s okay.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 01, 2024, 08:20:47 AM
Hiram hasn't been in the BEA since November 29, 2023.  :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 06, 2024, 06:00:39 AM
Would you guys be interested in seeing some AI images trained on me?

I’m quite nervous about this, but after fishing out my wedding photos and other old pictures of me, I spent the last week learning about Stable Diffusion, and worked on some basic training of AI on my face/body (when I was younger!). The results are remarkable - I had no idea how well it would work out.

I know I can only post one image per day (I think?), but I’d be interested to know what you think of them. They’re (mostly) clothed photos - kind-of idealistic notions of what I’d look like in certain outfits that I like, or lingerie that I used to own (I still feel a bit weird about seeing those!). Of course; I’ve gone slightly bigger in the boobs, to give you guys something to enjoy. I can tell you, it is the weirdest thing - they more or less look like me, but very slightly different - like a cousin or a sister. It’s truly startling (for me anyway), and they look incredibly realistic and natural.

Let me know, I’ll start posting them if you think it’s something you’d be interested in.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 06, 2024, 06:03:39 AM
I'd love to see any image of you that you wish to post. You are a BEA Princess, and we want to bow down to you.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 06, 2024, 07:53:13 AM
I'd love to see any image of you that you wish to post. You are a BEA Princess, and we want to bow down to you.  :)
That’s very kind of you. Let me take a bit of time to think about which one to post first (I have many!). Even though I know they’re not actually me - it’s a weird feeling, because they’re similar (albeit much more attractive and refined than little old me - and some 20-ish years younger!).

It’s so out-of-character for me to do something like this - I joined this forum by accident more than anything (to see what my husband was up to), and I’ve come to really like it - but my persona on here is very different from who I am in real life. Even if the photos aren’t real, it still feels a bit like I’m giving away a small part of myself (and I’m irrationally worried that someone might look at the photos and think “ooh, that looks a LOT like someone I know!”).

I’ll post something later today when I’ve stopped fretting over it.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on January 06, 2024, 08:26:37 AM
I'd love to see any image of you that you wish to post. You are a BEA Princess, and we want to bow down to you.  :)
That’s very kind of you. Let me take a bit of time to think about which one to post first (I have many!). Even though I know they’re not actually me - it’s a weird feeling, because they’re similar (albeit much more attractive and refined than little old me - and some 20-ish years younger!).

It’s so out-of-character for me to do something like this - I joined this forum by accident more than anything (to see what my husband was up to), and I’ve come to really like it - but my persona on here is very different from who I am in real life. Even if the photos aren’t real, it still feels a bit like I’m giving away a small part of myself (and I’m irrationally worried that someone might look at the photos and think “ooh, that look a lot like someone I know!”).

I’ll post something later today when I’ve stopped fretting over it.


Looking forward to it.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 21, 2024, 06:10:51 PM
Trying this again.
Chiara Mazzola,
Would you say she's a JJ cup or same size as Wendy Fiore?

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.T6RSzdYYviskQTcAT4St6AHaJQ?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 03:54:00 AM
Trying this again.
Chiara Mazzola,
Would you say she's a JJ cup or same size as Wendy Fiore?

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.T6RSzdYYviskQTcAT4St6AHaJQ?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)

I’ve had a look around - it’s difficult to tell because there’s a lot of back arching and emphasis going on, but I’d definitely put her up in the HH-J category, but she could easily be a GG/H. Possibly a 28-30 back.

Can you remind me what I said Wendy was?

She is really beautiful btw. I should have said that up front! (Pardon the pun!).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 22, 2024, 05:52:45 AM
^
For Wendy I believe you said she could be a 30JJ or a 32HH might work as well.

Yes, Chiara is quite stunning. I knew she was well endowed but I was so focused on her face I didn't realize how well endowed and some recent pics really made me do a double take.

Her thread probably has better samples for guessing. I'll link it below.

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004636.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004636.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 06:17:14 AM
^
For Wendy I believe you said she could be a 30JJ or a 32HH might work as well.

Yes, Chiara is quite stunning. I knew she was well endowed but I was so focused on her face I didn't realize how well endowed and some recent pics really made me do a double take.

Her thread probably has better samples for guessing. I'll link it below.

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004636.0 (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004636.0)

Yeah - she appears big, but I think if I measured and assessed her she would be more like a 30GG (my size). She just does a lot of work to emphasise her shape - and she has a tiny waist, so a 28HH/J wouldn’t be unusual.

Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 22, 2024, 09:10:28 AM
That 28 measurement is below the bust?
I guess it's the cup size that counts. I just always remember growing up thinking 36DD was huge. I think that's what they said Samantha Fox was and she was my favourite.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 09:32:09 AM
That 28 measurement is below the bust?
I guess it's the cup size that counts. I just always remember growing up thinking 36DD was huge. I think that's what they said Samantha Fox was and she was my favourite.

Yeah, she’s very slight and slim. I’d expect her to have a 28 or 30” back and an overbust measurement of about 38”. So about a 10” difference - but there’s more to it than that. Some people can’t wear a 28 (because they’re actually a 27” or a 29” back, but you have to round up or down) and then the nra adds fabric, so a 28GG might not work, whereas a 30H might etc.

Also, Samantha Fox was never a 36DD. I think I assessed her long ago - she’d be something like a 28E or a 30F.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on February 22, 2024, 09:39:40 AM
Could Samantha have been a 36 overbust and they used that # to make it sound like she's bigger?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 10:07:27 AM
Could Samantha have been a 36 overbust and they used that # to make it sound like she's bigger?

No. It was in the days of the +4 measuring method - where you measured your underbust, rounded up and added four inches. So a 31” back became a 32” and you added 4” to make it a 36. It’s how bra sizes were determined from the 70s/80s into the mid-2000s, and how we ended up wearing 34 and 36DD bras (or XL if you were super-big) - which were all wrong.

So let’s assume Sam was a 31” back, you’d round that to 32” and add four inches to get a 36 back - and then DD cup was basically what she would have had to fit herself into.

To my mind, she’s probably a 30 back and possibly about 34-36” around the bust, which would give her something like a 30F in real money, but I’m not even convinced she was a 30F. I was a 30/32FF until recently (I’m now a 30GG) and I’m way bigger than she ever was.

She was probably something like a 28F, maybe a 30E.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 22, 2024, 10:21:50 AM
Could Samantha have been a 36 overbust and they used that # to make it sound like she's bigger?

No. It was in the days of the +4 measuring method - where you measured your underbust, rounded up and added four inches. So a 31” back became a 32” and you added 4” to make it a 36. It’s how bra sizes were determined from the 70s/80s into the mid-2000s, and how we ended up wearing 34 and 36DD bras (or XL if you were super-big) - which were all wrong.

So let’s assume Sam was a 31” back, you’d round that to 32” and adde four inches to get a 36 back - and then DD cup was basically what she would have had to fit herself into.

To my mind, she’s probably a 30 back and possibly about 34-36” around the bust, which would give her something like a 30F in real money, but I’m not even convinced she was a 30F. I was a 30/32FF until recently (I’m now a 30GG) and I’m way bigger than she ever was.

She was probably something like a 28F, maybe a 30E.

Always good to have someone that knows what they are talking about.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on February 22, 2024, 11:40:38 AM

To my mind, she’s probably a 30 back and possibly about 34-36” around the bust, which would give her something like a 30F in real money, but I’m not even convinced she was a 30F. I was a 30/32FF until recently (I’m now a 30GG) and I’m way bigger than she ever was.

She was probably something like a 28F, maybe a 30E.

Margaret, just so you know, these statements drive us crazy.  LOL
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 11:45:39 AM

To my mind, she’s probably a 30 back and possibly about 34-36” around the bust, which would give her something like a 30F in real money, but I’m not even convinced she was a 30F. I was a 30/32FF until recently (I’m now a 30GG) and I’m way bigger than she ever was.

She was probably something like a 28F, maybe a 30E.

Margaret, just so you know, these statements drive us crazy.  LOL

I remember Samantha Fox well, and I remember thinking at the time I had bigger boobs than her. She just happened to show hers to the nation in a newspaper every other day.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on February 22, 2024, 09:02:00 PM
I remember Samantha Fox well, and I remember thinking at the time I had bigger boobs than her. She just happened to show hers to the nation in a newspaper every other day.

I also remember from back in the 1980's how cute and gorgeous she was and busty by the standards of the entertainment industry at that time. I was very disappointed when later on she said she was a Lesbian.  :(
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on February 23, 2024, 03:32:54 AM
Could Samantha have been a 36 overbust and they used that # to make it sound like she's bigger?

No. It was in the days of the +4 measuring method - where you measured your underbust, rounded up and added four inches. So a 31” back became a 32” and you added 4” to make it a 36. It’s how bra sizes were determined from the 70s/80s into the mid-2000s, and how we ended up wearing 34 and 36DD bras (or XL if you were super-big) - which were all wrong.

So let’s assume Sam was a 31” back, you’d round that to 32” and adde four inches to get a 36 back - and then DD cup was basically what she would have had to fit herself into.

To my mind, she’s probably a 30 back and possibly about 34-36” around the bust, which would give her something like a 30F in real money, but I’m not even convinced she was a 30F. I was a 30/32FF until recently (I’m now a 30GG) and I’m way bigger than she ever was.

She was probably something like a 28F, maybe a 30E.

Always good to have someone that knows what they are talking about.  :)

It’s among my favourite subjects. In addition to now generating AI images, I love nothing more than bra fitting, breast health - and bras in general. I’m absolutely nuts about bras. (As many of you are - but for very different reasons!).
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on April 07, 2024, 03:05:18 AM
I am not sure if we had Leanne Lovelace here in the past.

According to some sources she is billed to have 60-24-33 with a height of 5ft 2in.
Some sources say she has a 102JJJ bra size.
I doubt that she is that hugh around the bust cause she is not that height.
Even 102in for the underbust seems to be not exact, even if this is a metric value, 102cm for underbust might be too hugh for her small body.

I hope Margaret can help to get more precise values.
The picture don't have that high resolution, but I hope the hands under her bust are some help for size estimation.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 07, 2024, 03:49:28 AM
I am not sure if we had Leanne Lovelace here in the past.

According to some sources she is billed to have 60-24-33 with a height of 5ft 2in.
Some sources say she has a 102JJJ bra size.
I doubt that she is that hugh around the bust cause she is not that height.
Even 102in for the underbust seems to be not exact, even if this is a metric value, 102cm for underbust might be too hugh for her small body.

I hope Margaret can help to get more precise values.
The picture don't have that high resolution, but I hope the hands under her bust are some help for size estimation.

If the 102 means anything, it's bound to be cm, which is about 40". If that's her overbust (and I always assume these figures are exaggerated), then given the size of her boobs (and her height), I'd be thinking her back size would be about 30", which would give her something along the lines of a 30HH/J. Given the roundness and projection she has, she looks more like a 28/30 back - and, I some pics (and some pretty hardcore videos) I've seen since googling her, she has very  big, full-on-bottom boobs, so I'm more inclined to think she's probably (or was) something like a 30JJ. However, even looking at a 30JJ example, she seems much more like a 32JJ/K.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on April 07, 2024, 03:54:10 AM
Thank you Margaret,

that's why I prefer the more accurate "bare hands" measurement method  ;D.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 07, 2024, 05:10:02 AM
Thank you Margaret,

that's why I prefer the more accurate "bare hands" measurement method  ;D.

They certainly look a handful.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on April 20, 2024, 10:04:21 PM
Bumping up this thread and hoping that Margaret returns soon because I miss her great personality here.  ???
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on April 21, 2024, 12:50:46 AM
Bumping up this thread and hoping that Margaret returns soon because I miss her great personality here.  ???

Still here Solvegas. Just been busy with work - I shall be posting new pics soon, and will always be here to answer bra size and bra-related boob queries!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on April 21, 2024, 05:33:33 AM
Bumping up this thread and hoping that Margaret returns soon because I miss her great personality here.  ???

Still here Solvegas. Just been busy with work - I shall be posting new pics soon, and will always be here to answer bra size and bra-related boob queries!

Oh good, I wasn't sure about your status but now I feel better about it.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: parisien1 on May 15, 2024, 09:32:16 AM
(https://zupimages.net/up/24/20/06y2.jpg) (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/20/06y2.jpg)

Hello Margaret, I don't know if you've ever been asked this... but what size bra fits Nancy Quill?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on May 15, 2024, 09:42:39 AM
(https://zupimages.net/up/24/20/06y2.jpg) (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/20/06y2.jpg)
Hello Margaret, I don't know if you've ever been asked this... but what size bra fits Nancy Quill?

An excellent question.  Margaret, to help with more pix, here’s a link to Nancy’s thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0).  Does anyone know her height?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on May 15, 2024, 10:38:33 PM
(https://zupimages.net/up/24/20/06y2.jpg) (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/20/06y2.jpg)
Hello Margaret, I don't know if you've ever been asked this... but what size bra fits Nancy Quill?

An excellent question.  Margaret, to help with more pix, here’s a link to Nancy’s thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=596327.0).  Does anyone know her height?

She is 5'5" or 140 cm and weighs 121 pounds or 55 Kilos and was born on May 21, 1959, so she'll be 65 years old next week.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on May 17, 2024, 04:26:48 AM
It’s difficult to tell, but I understand she’s quite short (height) and seems very slim - with quite a big projection. I also understand she’s augmented, or has had implants.

She definitely has a small back, so possibly around 30-32 and I’d be thinking she’s around KK or bigger - but it could be a custom bra.

I’ve attached what a 32KK looks like.  And she’s definitely bigger than that. So possibly L.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: parisien1 on May 18, 2024, 03:32:40 AM
We're definitely way beyond the photo you shared! In the photos where you can make out her bra, I'd say she's wearing Elila Jacquard, but custom-made because it's impossible to find it in the shops in her size.
You tell me she's an L cup, but I think Nancy's bigger... an M... or N... cup! Which would be insane!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: parisien1 on May 18, 2024, 03:53:18 AM
(https://zupimages.net/up/24/20/s98j.jpg) (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/20/s98j.jpg)
Viewed from the back in profile, the mass is incredible and the relief of the bra suggests that it's massive.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on August 04, 2024, 04:21:44 PM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 04, 2024, 09:58:57 PM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)

I hope Margaret responds to this soon enough. As for me, I say ..... Fucking huge.  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 06, 2024, 04:17:26 AM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)

I’m not seeing anything. Is there supposed to be an image with this post?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on August 06, 2024, 04:28:07 AM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)

I’m not seeing anything. Is there supposed to be an image with this post?
Looks like original image link deleted.
Here's another one.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724493365001060375/1270271208704704513/IMG_9238.gif?ex=66b317c0&is=66b1c640&hm=2d22fcded0d586dc9f6e5984bbf02bec887ab70ac52aff1680c2423342f0fb8e&)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on August 06, 2024, 04:29:57 AM
You can also check out some more pix at her thread HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10008305.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 06, 2024, 05:15:39 AM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)

I’m not seeing anything. Is there supposed to be an image with this post?
Looks like original image link deleted.
Here's another one.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724493365001060375/1270271208704704513/IMG_9238.gif?ex=66b317c0&is=66b1c640&hm=2d22fcded0d586dc9f6e5984bbf02bec887ab70ac52aff1680c2423342f0fb8e&)

Very difficult to say without seeing some other photos - but she has a broad back and is very low set - and there’s a lot of volume there. She also seems quite short in height. It won’t be an ordinary size, probably in the 32-34 back range and up in the L/M+ cup size.

She would struggle to get any kind of off-the-peg bra to fit her properly (other than the very stretchy, non-wired type of bra she’s wearing in the gif).

Very difficult to be certain, but it’s going to be something like 34M or more.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 06, 2024, 07:11:49 AM
So nice to see you back Margaret.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on August 06, 2024, 09:01:01 AM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

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Very difficult to say without seeing some other photos - but she has a broad back and is very low set - and there’s a lot of volume there. She also seems quite short in height. It won’t be an ordinary size, probably in the 32-34 back range and up in the L/M+ cup size.

She would struggle to get any kind of off-the-peg bra to fit her properly (other than the very stretchy, non-wired type of bra she’s wearing in the gif).

Very difficult to be certain, but it’s going to be something like 34M or more.

I’ll say it again:

You can also check out some more pix at her thread HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10008305.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 06, 2024, 09:09:37 AM
Hi Margaret
What would you guess her cup size is?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724493365001060375/1269758890120187966/IMG_9167.gif?ex=66b13a9e&is=66afe91e&hm=5fb14b093d4d9d971b1bdb9cfcd5a3c86029a34e4ce3fd41b146f36eb795ab23&=&width=636&height=1131)

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Here's another one.
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Very difficult to say without seeing some other photos - but she has a broad back and is very low set - and there’s a lot of volume there. She also seems quite short in height. It won’t be an ordinary size, probably in the 32-34 back range and up in the L/M+ cup size.

She would struggle to get any kind of off-the-peg bra to fit her properly (other than the very stretchy, non-wired type of bra she’s wearing in the gif).

Very difficult to be certain, but it’s going to be something like 34M or more.

I’ll say it again:

You can also check out some more pix at her thread HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10008305.0)

Definitely about 32/34 back, and up in the LL/M+ cup size. She looks really short.

And, she’s also very beautiful. I love her.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 06, 2024, 09:15:21 AM
^ Since nature made her short, it must have made her busty in order to compensate her. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on August 06, 2024, 09:31:21 AM
^ Since nature made her short, it must have made her busty in order to compensate her. ;) ;D

Hmmm, tell that to Simone Biles :P
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on August 11, 2024, 01:38:07 PM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on August 11, 2024, 01:47:01 PM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

For more picture references, her thread is HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004938.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on August 11, 2024, 02:23:47 PM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.
I think she's a double J.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on August 12, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 13, 2024, 05:04:12 AM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course

Yeah, as I said, probably something like 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out. She has a really amazing figure. I’m jealous!
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on August 13, 2024, 11:17:23 AM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course

Yeah, as I said, probably something like 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out. She has a really amazing figure. I’m jealous!

Thanks Margaret.
Yeah, I really has to confess that I like how she looks  ::)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 13, 2024, 10:14:23 PM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course

Yeah, as I said, probably something like 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out. She has a really amazing figure. I’m jealous!

Margaret, in my opinion, you are a beautiful woman, and it isn't just about physical looks, your character is great and so you are a great lady.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on August 14, 2024, 05:11:53 AM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course

Yeah, as I said, probably something like 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out. She has a really amazing figure. I’m jealous!

Margaret, in my opinion, you are a beautiful woman, and it isn't just about physical looks, your character is great and so you are a great lady.  :)

Thank-you Solvegas, you’re very kind.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on August 14, 2024, 07:17:03 AM
Would be great if Margaret could guess the size of Valentina di Rocco. They must be ginormous, like H to J Cups  :o.
Unfortunately I couldn't find any height of her for a better size-to-body relation.

I asked Margaret a few years ago on Lali. She responded here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.msg10577941;topicseen#msg10577941
I'll let her speak for herself of course

Yeah, as I said, probably something like 32H/HH, maybe 32J (at a push). She does a lot of work to make her boobs sit high on her torso and push out. She has a really amazing figure. I’m jealous!

Margaret, in my opinion, you are a beautiful woman, and it isn't just about physical looks, your character is great and so you are a great lady.  :)

Thank-you Solvegas, you’re very kind.

Like Police detective Joe Friday on the old TV show Dragnet used to say, just the facts ma'am, just the facts. :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on December 05, 2024, 01:12:08 PM
Hope when Margeret finds some time, she might like to give some info on this Model.
She goes by Amira Love and the web said she is 5'10" tall with some 44LL/M Cup.

I wonder abot the 44, cause if I understand the meassurement correctly, this number stands for the underbust value. with 5'10" tall and weighting 141lbs,
I think she is slim and might only be around 35" in underbust  :o?

Also I have one second question, i hope Margaret can explain:
What is the reason of having two letters instead of the next one in alphabet?
As I understand the system of cup meassuring goes letter by letter, so after a D-Cup comes an E-Cup, but sometimes an E-Cup goes under DD-Cup and the tripple letter DDD is similar to an F-Cup?
I would understand if the double letters stands for inbetween sizes, or even if it is like in Excel where after the last X-collumn it goes on with double letters  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on December 05, 2024, 03:32:57 PM
Hope when Margeret finds some time, she might like to give some info on this Model.
She goes by Amira Love and the web said she is 5'10" tall with some 44LL/M Cup.

I wonder abot the 44, cause if I understand the meassurement correctly, this number stands for the underbust value. with 5'10" tall and weighting 141lbs,
I think she is slim and might only be around 35" in underbust  :o?

Also I have one second question, i hope Margaret can explain:
What is the reason of having two letters instead of the next one in alphabet?
As I understand the system of cup meassuring goes letter by letter, so after a D-Cup comes an E-Cup, but sometimes an E-Cup goes under DD-Cup and the tripple letter DDD is similar to an F-Cup?
I would understand if the double letters stands for inbetween sizes, or even if it is like in Excel where after the last X-collumn it goes on with double letters  ;D

It’s the U.K. cupsize system. Here’s a conversion chart between US/EU/UK cupsize from Bare Necessities.  A picture is worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 06, 2024, 03:26:36 AM
Hope when Margeret finds some time, she might like to give some info on this Model.
She goes by Amira Love and the web said she is 5'10" tall with some 44LL/M Cup.

I wonder abot the 44, cause if I understand the meassurement correctly, this number stands for the underbust value. with 5'10" tall and weighting 141lbs,
I think she is slim and might only be around 35" in underbust  :o?

Also I have one second question, i hope Margaret can explain:
What is the reason of having two letters instead of the next one in alphabet?
As I understand the system of cup meassuring goes letter by letter, so after a D-Cup comes an E-Cup, but sometimes an E-Cup goes under DD-Cup and the tripple letter DDD is similar to an F-Cup?
I would understand if the double letters stands for inbetween sizes, or even if it is like in Excel where after the last X-collumn it goes on with double letters  ;D

I don’t mean to be rude, but the photos of this woman seem odd. Almost as though they’ve been photoshopped. Is she a real person?

In any case, I’m not convinced she’d be a 44 back, I suspect that was (or is) a marketing ploy. Even if she’s 5’10”, the bodyshape in the photos I’ve seen of her don’t match with my experience of a 44 back. Certainly not any I’ve ever seen. I suspect she’s somewhere around the 36-38 back size, and possibly in the KK cup range. But the size she is in the photos available online is so inconsistent - and her face looks badly photoshopped on to someone else’s body.

In terms of the double letters in bra sizing, no-one really knows why it came about. There’s a lengthy article on Wikipedia about how bra sizing came about (the letters were an attempt to standardise the manufacturing process, because in order to make a bra that fits exactly, you’d have to make a different one for every woman - so they grouped them into cups and lettered the cups according to the letters of the alphabet: 1 = A and so on). It was only later that they realised they needed very subtle variances in the cup sizes and had to add new ones; a D cup proved to have more variance, so they added another D (so as to not have to move every other subsequent letter up one cup size and confuse everyone in that range). And it just stuck.

UK cup sizes are different from US, and just about every other region or country in the world has their own system. It’s hard to say which one works best - I’ve always worked with UK sizes, so it’s difficult for me to adjust to another system. They’re by no means perfect - bra fitting is an art, not a science. For example, you have a variance known as “sister sizing” where a woman could fit into a 32FF, but also a 30G or a 34F. (Up a band, down a cup or down a band, up a cup). It’s because the corresponding change of band or cup size makes up for the lack or increase of band/cup material.

It’s always best to remember that the band and cup sizes are just a guide. A bra is best fitted when tried on.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Scarface on December 06, 2024, 05:06:28 AM
^
She's indeed photoshopped. See the Amira Love thread where it's been confirmed.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 06, 2024, 07:00:45 AM
It's great when Margaret returns to the forum.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Maik on December 06, 2024, 11:26:03 AM
Thanks for your explanation Margaret.
Most here are now on the point to say that this person does not really exist.
I find it strange that she is listed in some articles on boobpedia or babepedia with a whole life span from birth to measurements and so on  :o
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Superion on December 25, 2024, 06:46:43 PM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 27, 2024, 07:37:37 AM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?

Might need some more pics for a better estimate - but it’ll be small in the back and big in the cups. Possibly something like a 28/30 back and JJ/K in the boobs. But it’ll all depend.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2024, 07:46:03 AM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?

Might need some more pics for a better estimate - but it’ll be small in the back and big in the cups. Possibly something like a 28/30 back and JJ/K in the boobs. But it’ll all depend.

Superion should start a thread of her and post a bunch of different angle photos so you can get a good look at her Margaret.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 27, 2024, 12:59:28 PM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?

Might need some more pics for a better estimate - but it’ll be small in the back and big in the cups. Possibly something like a 28/30 back and JJ/K in the boobs. But it’ll all depend.

Superion should start a thread of her and post a bunch of different angle photos so you can get a good look at her Margaret.  :)

That works certainly be of some help.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2024, 10:53:22 PM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?

Might need some more pics for a better estimate - but it’ll be small in the back and big in the cups. Possibly something like a 28/30 back and JJ/K in the boobs. But it’ll all depend.

Superion should start a thread of her and post a bunch of different angle photos so you can get a good look at her Margaret.  :)

That works certainly be of some help.

It's good to always see your responses.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 28, 2024, 03:18:08 AM
I think I may start a thread for Tima. Can you give an estimate Margaret?

Might need some more pics for a better estimate - but it’ll be small in the back and big in the cups. Possibly something like a 28/30 back and JJ/K in the boobs. But it’ll all depend.

Superion should start a thread of her and post a bunch of different angle photos so you can get a good look at her Margaret.  :)

That works certainly be of some help.

It's good to always see your responses.  :)

I meant “would” ! Damn autocorrect.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on December 30, 2024, 02:58:30 PM
Margaret, has anyone asked you about Honey?

Here’s a current pic…

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=1018915)

And here’s a link to her thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10006265.135)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 31, 2024, 04:56:10 AM
Margaret, has anyone asked you about Honey?

Here’s a current pic…

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=1018915)

And here’s a link to her thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10006265.135)

I’ve seen this lady on social media a few times. There’s a lot of wide-angle and high-angle shooting going on, which helps over-emphasise size, and of course she wears too-small bras or often puts her bra shoulder straps too tight in order to pull her boobs up. She’s quite short (probably around 5’1” or 5’2”, so that also helps over-emphasise her size as well. With all that said, she has a reasonably slim torso, but a broad back - and she still has large boobs for her overall size. I’d put her in the 32 back category and possibly around JJ cup size (as ever, I go with UK bra sizing). She would be around there if I was taking a guess.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: solvegas on December 31, 2024, 05:34:08 AM
Always good and pleasant to hear from you Margaret.  :)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on December 31, 2024, 07:13:10 AM
Margaret, has anyone asked you about Honey?

Here’s a current pic…

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=1018915)

And here’s a link to her thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10006265.135)

I’ve seen this lady on social media a few times. There’s a lot of wide-angle and high-angle shooting going on, which helps over-emphasise size, and of course she wears too-small bras or often puts her bra shoulder straps too tight in order to pull her boobs up. She’s quite short (probably around 5’1” or 5’2”, so that also helps over-emphasise her size as well. With all that said, she has a reasonably slim torso, but a broad back - and she still has large boobs for her overall size. I’d put her in the 32 back category and possibly around JJ cup size (as ever, I go with UK bra sizing). She would be around there if I was taking a guess.

Cris heads to his handy-dandy UK to US conversion guide…

Whoa!  😳  A 32N!  Wow! 
She absolutely uses some little tricks to look as big as possible.  I occasionally see her in a straight shot where she doesn’t appear quite as huge, though.  Thanks for the assessment, Margaret!

Looking back through her thread, this shot from this past summer shows her looking a little closer to her true size, methinks.  Interestingly, I reported that she claims to be a K-cup, which I forgot about.  If she’s referring to a UK cup size, then that would be pretty damn close to your educated guess, Margaret!  But, I don’t know if she’s British or American as I’ve never heard her speak, that I recall.

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=996179)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 31, 2024, 08:23:57 AM
Margaret, has anyone asked you about Honey?

Here’s a current pic…

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=1018915)

And here’s a link to her thread (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10006265.135)

I’ve seen this lady on social media a few times. There’s a lot of wide-angle and high-angle shooting going on, which helps over-emphasise size, and of course she wears too-small bras or often puts her bra shoulder straps too tight in order to pull her boobs up. She’s quite short (probably around 5’1” or 5’2”, so that also helps over-emphasise her size as well. With all that said, she has a reasonably slim torso, but a broad back - and she still has large boobs for her overall size. I’d put her in the 32 back category and possibly around JJ cup size (as ever, I go with UK bra sizing). She would be around there if I was taking a guess.

Cris heads to his handy-dandy UK to US conversion guide…

Whoa!  😳  A 32N!  Wow! 
She absolutely uses some little tricks to look as big as possible.  I occasionally see her in a straight shot where she doesn’t appear quite as huge, though.  Thanks for the assessment, Margaret!

Looking back through her thread, this shot from this past summer shows her looking a little closer to her true size, methinks.  Interestingly, I reported that she claims to be a K-cup, which I forgot about.  If she’s referring to a UK cup size, then that would be pretty damn close to your educated guess, Margaret!  But, I don’t know if she’s British or American as I’ve never heard her speak, that I recall.

(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10006265.0;attach=996179)

K cup would also be an option. Possibly a 30K, although she doesn’t seem a 30 back to me. But I could be wrong. Which would mean a 32K. She certainly has full, rounded boobs - which would work better with a bigger cup.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on December 31, 2024, 09:36:48 AM
Maybe I’m missing something - but I can’t find any photos of her in lingerie, which would help me figure things out. Plenty of shots of her in tops/bikinis, but no bras. The bikini shots are definitely very-small bikinis that she’s using to pull her boobs up - and her boobs don’t look as big. A bra photo would give me much more insight.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on December 31, 2024, 12:23:22 PM
Maybe I’m missing something - but I can’t find any photos of her in lingerie, which would help me figure things out. Plenty of shots of her in tops/bikinis, but no bras. The bikini shots are definitely very-small bikinis that she’s using to pull her boobs up - and her boobs don’t look as big. A bra photo would give me much more insight.

Yeah, I don’t recall seeing lingerie shots of her.  Her IG also says that “everything’s bigger in Texas”, which would make one assume she’s from there.  If that’s the case, and assuming she’s telling the truth about her cup size, a K-cup reference would most likely be a US cupsize.  Odd.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Feenix4 on January 24, 2025, 06:47:28 AM
 Hey Margaret.... Just got something buzzing around in my head....
 I would like to know : In the British cup sizing regime , 1: Does one cup size equate to 1 inch , for each step up ??
 Also , when you get to the sizes where you use the double letter code , i.e. 44gg or 44hh....Is the double g or double h a step of 1 inch or 1 cup size or is it an 'in between' step , in relation to a 44g or 44h?? ..... Would value your knowledge on this....Thanks .
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Charade Recherche on January 24, 2025, 09:20:10 AM
Hi Feenix,

I’m pretty sure I know the answers to your questions, but we should let Margaret answer in case I screw something up. ;)

But, you should really ask your question in her bra whisperer thread HERE (https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.0)
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Margaret on January 24, 2025, 11:20:14 AM
Hey Margaret.... Just got something buzzing around in my head....
 I would like to know : In the British cup sizing regime , 1: Does one cup size equate to 1 inch , for each step up ??
 Also , when you get to the sizes where you use the double letter code , i.e. 44gg or 44hh....Is the double g or double h a step of 1 inch or 1 cup size or is it an 'in between' step , in relation to a 44g or 44h?? ..... Would value your knowledge on this....Thanks .

Technically, only the back band truly relates to inches, eg. a 32 back band is 32” around the back (the underbust) with a measuring tape, and to gain your cup size you measure around the fullest part of your bust (the overbust) so, each increase in cup size difference from the underbust to overbust roughly equates to one inch.

However, a zero difference between underbust and overbust starts with AA cup (eg. 32AA would be a 32 back with a 32 overbust).

From there, it increases one inch per cup at a time. This is approximately one inch of “cup” material - but it’s really not that simple, because someone could measure 32” around the back and 36” around the boobs (making them a 32D), but a 32D bra might be uncomfortable or not fit well. They might be more suited to a 34C or a 30DD - which are approximately the same sizes, with the bigger or smaller back band (or cup) compensating for the increase or decrease in cup/back band material.

As for the increase - it’s always an inch each time - irrespective of D, DD, G, GG etc.
Title: Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
Post by: Feenix4 on January 24, 2025, 08:02:18 PM
 Thanks very much Margaret....very comprehensive explanation !   :)   .... Got it straight now . Your 3rd para I believe relates to what is known as 'Sister sizing' ?..... Wonder where I got that from ?  ;)  .   .... Sorry Charade ... I'll check to get my 'Margaret' questions in the proper place next time .  ;)